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Hi Guy's,
Heard a rumour that once the merger is complete everyone will be on 11 days off a month. Any truth?
On another note, has anyone heard about the January course????
TY
Heard a rumour that once the merger is complete everyone will be on 11 days off a month. Any truth?
On another note, has anyone heard about the January course????
TY
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Can anyone confirm that the AJX guys who missed out on the $30 000 contract signing bonus 3 years ago will get it payed out in March 2010 when the merger is complete and they sign a new contract??
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what kind of PIC rating is required for an F/O position?
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Congrats 4 PW
Wish I could answer your question . Not sure , but to my understanding the C1 Visa ( even if current and held , is only valid for the company you had previously operated for ) , so you would need a new one anyway. ( So everyone except the Americans would have this problem). I might be wrong , but look into it. parc surely will know.
Another question I have , ( matybe Parc will know). What if your passport is from a Country that requires a visa to enter Japan . Will ANA assist in giving the necessary visa ( or) will someone have to keep coming into the country on a tourist visa each time they go to work ?
Good luck 4PW,s , let me tell you . this is a good move
Cheerds 4G's
Wish I could answer your question . Not sure , but to my understanding the C1 Visa ( even if current and held , is only valid for the company you had previously operated for ) , so you would need a new one anyway. ( So everyone except the Americans would have this problem). I might be wrong , but look into it. parc surely will know.
Another question I have , ( matybe Parc will know). What if your passport is from a Country that requires a visa to enter Japan . Will ANA assist in giving the necessary visa ( or) will someone have to keep coming into the country on a tourist visa each time they go to work ?
Good luck 4PW,s , let me tell you . this is a good move
Cheerds 4G's
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Another question I have , ( matybe Parc will know). What if your passport is from a Country that requires a visa to enter Japan . Will ANA assist in giving the necessary visa ( or) will someone have to keep coming into the country on a tourist visa each time they go to work ?
when you come in and leave as crew it is a fairly easy process but when you transfer from pax to crew and vice a versa the company has to arranged the permit for you.
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Hi Dominician
Many thanks , but what about my 10 days off. If I am a passenger on say Air Canada inbound from Vancouver. I arrive in Tokyo as a regular pax. Surely if my citizenship requires a visa for Japan ( I am not Canadian) then I would need one in this case. OR ,is there some sort of assistance ( some sort of a crew permit) , that will alllow me to enter Japan in this case.
Many thanks 4G's
Many thanks , but what about my 10 days off. If I am a passenger on say Air Canada inbound from Vancouver. I arrive in Tokyo as a regular pax. Surely if my citizenship requires a visa for Japan ( I am not Canadian) then I would need one in this case. OR ,is there some sort of assistance ( some sort of a crew permit) , that will alllow me to enter Japan in this case.
Many thanks 4G's
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You should not have any problem getting the U.S. visa while in training. You will have plenty of days off and it seemed to be a quick process. Several guys from our class had to do it. They made the appointment for an interview at the U.S. embassy and I think within several days of the interview they had the visa.
You should not have any problem getting the U.S. visa while in training. You will have plenty of days off and it seemed to be a quick process. Several guys from our class had to do it. They made the appointment for an interview at the U.S. embassy and I think within several days of the interview they had the visa.
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but what about my 10 days off. If I am a passenger on say Air Canada inbound from Vancouver. I arrive in Tokyo as a regular pax. Surely if my citizenship requires a visa for Japan ( I am not Canadian) then I would need one in this case.
When you come in as a passenger on the inbound flight to start your roster, the company will arrange a shore pass with a permit from Immigration and you are handled by a company representative that waits for you at the arrival gate and takes you through immigration as a dead heading crew. When you do your last flight of your roster, there is a company rep. that greets the flight and gives you the shore pass with another permit that transfers you from operating crew member to passenger and it is handled by immigration again as a dead heading crew, there will be no need for a tourist visa on your commute.
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Capt Coco,
I think a few things need to be considered here. The first question must surely be, were you in AJX when AJV started up? If you were, then you had the opportunity to go to AJV and collect your signing bonus. You did say we got it but that's not necessarily so. Since the 'split' of the original guys from AJX, nobody else has had a signing bonus e.g. I didn't, so I really cannot see (a)why AJX joiners since AJV started would get the money and (b)why the 'old school' AJXers would get, because they had the chance then and didn't take it. I'm not trying to drive some sort of divide but the 'old school' this does really smack of trying to have your cake and eat it.
I really don't know who is merging with whom, but I just hope they 'upgrade' AJX in terms of days off, rather than 'downgrade' AJV. If this is the case, then getting a signing on bonus as well would be a veritable piss-take. I reckon we should get an even bigger one if we've got to fly pax around
Re visas and passports:
The US visas are not employer specific and it can be used to enter and leave the States with AJV/AJX. I checked and have had no problems with mine from a former employer.
Mr Dominican is, as ususal, spot on with what he says about shore passes but that is once you have completed training. BEFORE arriving in Japan you will need to get a Training Visa in your passport. AJV/AJX will send you the relevant paperwork and you will then need to take that along to your nearest Japanese Consulate and get it stuck in your passport. You pay for it and then can claim it back later, once in Japan.
When you start training, you'll be taken to a local office in Kamata (Shinagawa for AJX?????) and there you'll apply for your Alien Registration Card. Once you get this, you'll keep hold of it until you have finished route training. During that time you'll leave and enter Japan on your passport and E/D card (embark/disembark). So, yes. you'll collect lots of stamps during route training. This is relatively new, so Mr D would not have done it this way (I think) as they used to use shore passes during training. Once route training is finished, you hand in your Alien Card and continue as per Mr D's advice.
I think a few things need to be considered here. The first question must surely be, were you in AJX when AJV started up? If you were, then you had the opportunity to go to AJV and collect your signing bonus. You did say we got it but that's not necessarily so. Since the 'split' of the original guys from AJX, nobody else has had a signing bonus e.g. I didn't, so I really cannot see (a)why AJX joiners since AJV started would get the money and (b)why the 'old school' AJXers would get, because they had the chance then and didn't take it. I'm not trying to drive some sort of divide but the 'old school' this does really smack of trying to have your cake and eat it.
I really don't know who is merging with whom, but I just hope they 'upgrade' AJX in terms of days off, rather than 'downgrade' AJV. If this is the case, then getting a signing on bonus as well would be a veritable piss-take. I reckon we should get an even bigger one if we've got to fly pax around
Re visas and passports:
The US visas are not employer specific and it can be used to enter and leave the States with AJV/AJX. I checked and have had no problems with mine from a former employer.
Mr Dominican is, as ususal, spot on with what he says about shore passes but that is once you have completed training. BEFORE arriving in Japan you will need to get a Training Visa in your passport. AJV/AJX will send you the relevant paperwork and you will then need to take that along to your nearest Japanese Consulate and get it stuck in your passport. You pay for it and then can claim it back later, once in Japan.
When you start training, you'll be taken to a local office in Kamata (Shinagawa for AJX?????) and there you'll apply for your Alien Registration Card. Once you get this, you'll keep hold of it until you have finished route training. During that time you'll leave and enter Japan on your passport and E/D card (embark/disembark). So, yes. you'll collect lots of stamps during route training. This is relatively new, so Mr D would not have done it this way (I think) as they used to use shore passes during training. Once route training is finished, you hand in your Alien Card and continue as per Mr D's advice.
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I'm not a very smart man so I have to dumb things down to my level to be able to understand them because I don't know much about corporate structures, stock options and IPO's But the fact that people don't leave and out of the few that have left a lot of them have actually come back including the latest one that is currently a 777 captain on another contract and is coming back at the beginning of the year to deal with the horrors of seat belt signs and flying BCF's in the middle of the night. What that tells me is that this was a good gig before they put the divider in the middle of the office, it continues to be a good gig now that the divider is up and it will continue to be a good gig when they take it down again because they might have had two puppet shows running lately but there is always been only one puppeteer (the view dumb down to my level of course). So I think I'll wait for the information they said it was coming soon explaining how the reintegration was going to take place and leave the "101 ways this can be very bad" to the conspiracy theorists.
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There is a lot of history here that is not known to a lot of the post "divide" pilots in the operation.
It had become a really crappy operation before the divide, morale was low, fatigue and illness were way up.
Since the divide all pilots are unanimous that things have improved. The most obvious reason was that the flying was seperated and the clever guys gotmore money (incoming!!!)
So far only 1 individual has returned after taking a break from flying. Another is RUMOURED to be coming back, with the proposed merger, that may change, best wait and see.
Having experienced the "joys" of a combined freighter/pax operation the way it was done by AJX all those years ago, I hope we will not see a return to those conditions.
It is too early to tell yet but I would be very careful saying things are great and expecting them to continue to be great.
When things are bad, they can't get much worse, only better. When things are good ............., well enough said.
I reckon it's unlikely the AJX guys will see an improvement in their deal.
Maybe time to start dusting off those cv's
It had become a really crappy operation before the divide, morale was low, fatigue and illness were way up.
Since the divide all pilots are unanimous that things have improved. The most obvious reason was that the flying was seperated and the clever guys gotmore money (incoming!!!)
So far only 1 individual has returned after taking a break from flying. Another is RUMOURED to be coming back, with the proposed merger, that may change, best wait and see.
Having experienced the "joys" of a combined freighter/pax operation the way it was done by AJX all those years ago, I hope we will not see a return to those conditions.
It is too early to tell yet but I would be very careful saying things are great and expecting them to continue to be great.
When things are bad, they can't get much worse, only better. When things are good ............., well enough said.
I reckon it's unlikely the AJX guys will see an improvement in their deal.
Maybe time to start dusting off those cv's
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Maybe time to start dusting off those cv's
But hey, it is PPRUNE, have at it!