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Old 11th Nov 2009, 15:21
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Just curious what kind of times/qual. you guys have getting through the Parc or CREW process?

Mine are 6200TT
5300 Turbine ME
typed BE400, MU300, CE750; SIC CRJ
Clean record
Associates Degree
Only 424 PIC Turbine

So far nothing...I do know there are a ton of Heavy drivers out there looking to get on, but wonder about the rest of us Regional airline/corporate guys..

BTW I'm former Comair and soon to be former Netjets. Applied through CREW in September, and just did the Parc online today....
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Fratemate and Dominican, well said both of you.

Whatever they come up with will almost certainly be some incredibly complicated restructure of salaries and conditions that none of us ever conceived in the last 6 months of conjecture. They have always surprised us in the last 8 years so I'm just gonna wait and see and try and not to be too surprised when I'm surprised!
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Gomets, just a guess but I'd say there are a lot more guys with a lot more "heavy" jet time than you applying. Keep trying though, good luck.
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3000+ TT
2100 737-800W
250 Hawker 800

Netjets Europe....

Past experience with ANA for Ab Initio Training

should i bother applying?

D
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Old 13th Nov 2009, 03:24
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If you meet the minimum requirements, APPLY.

The worst that can happen is that they politely tell you they're not interested.

The best thing that can happen is you will get the job.

If you don't ask you don't get!!!
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Old 13th Nov 2009, 03:27
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Absolutely, I have to agree with you.

I'm waiting with bated breath for the surprise. Not even letting my imagination run wild to try to guess.
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Old 13th Nov 2009, 12:43
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keep the beer in the fridge, Dom

Parc told me last week that my application for FO was rejected. No reason, of course. I can only think/ hope they found some discrepancy in my hours breakdowns.

Bummer. I was genuinely excited about the prospect of this job...relying on the gulf now (oh dear - not so happy out that way).

With over 9000TT, 2300 jet/757/767, (some PiC on type, although time on type is supposed to be no advantage); and over 5500PiC (although 2500 hours are subtracted from TT and PiC for instructing), you might think I'd be well qualified for an interview at least.

This is not intended to discourage other applicants - you have to be in to win, but it goes to illustrate the randomness of airline screening, and adds to the sharing of information concept of this thread.

I was looking forward to your offer of a beer, Dominican, maybe I'll pass through in the winter time on my way to Hokkaido for some snowboarding...
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Old 13th Nov 2009, 21:34
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Greetings Gents

Just starting the process with PARC. A few questions ( I apologise if they have been answered before , but there is so much reading on this thread now , its a novel to cover)

As far as the commute is concerned Parc say a " C Class" ticket or $2000 transport allowance. Can someone explain what a " C Class "ticket is.
Is it perhaps " Confirmed" ?

If your spouse comes to visit , do they have any objection to her staying with you whilst in Japan ( only some of the time)( she,s hot what can I say )

They are also offering a Japan based contract. Is it possible to start with a commuting one and change to a Japan based one after the first 5 year contract is over.

Lastly , anyone worried that JAL,s troubles may lead to layoffs and therefore local Japanese pilots flooding the market ( and how it may affect expats), or is that a little out to left field ?

Has the merger with AJX/AJV gone ahead ? Confirm it does not really matter then which company you apply for in this case as we will all be flying both lines ?

Thanks all.

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Old 14th Nov 2009, 01:50
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Check your PM's Sir HORichard
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Old 14th Nov 2009, 01:57
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Fourgolds
With the exception of the last two questions the information you ask has been extensively discussed within this thread and although it is rather lengthy I would recommend you to read it (think of it as practice for the 9 months of reading you will be doing) The reason why I recommend it is because you will encounter information you might not think to ask but that is good to know.

As far as the commute is concerned Parc say a " C Class" ticket or $2000 transport allowance. Can someone explain what a " C Class "ticket is.
Is it perhaps " Confirmed" ?
Confirmed business class ticket

If your spouse comes to visit , do they have any objection to her staying with you whilst in Japan ( only some of the time)
No restriction, although if your accommodation will be a hotel the company will only pay for one week and the rest of the time is at your own coin. What accommodations will the combined company provide in the future? apartment vs. hotel? we simply don't know

They are also offering a Japan based contract. Is it possible to start with a commuting one and change to a Japan based one after the first 5 year contract is over.
I'm curious to hear where you got this information from? as far as we know it is only a commuting base contract

Lastly , anyone worried that JAL,s troubles may lead to layoffs and therefore local Japanese pilots flooding the market ( and how it may affect expats), or is that a little out to left field ?
My crystal ball has never worked very well mind you, but with many airlines and the government willing to dump money into the bottomless pit that is JAL and with the economy recuperating at a higher pace that has been anticipated my prediction is that hiring will continue at ANA and that eventually you will see contracts offered to expats at JAL as well. But the most politically correct answer would be, I have no freaking Idea!

Has the merger with AJX/AJV gone ahead ? Confirm it does not really matter then which company you apply for in this case as we will all be flying both lines ?
Gone ahead? In Japan everything takes a long time and the merger will take most of next year to be complete but then again so will the training of the folks that join now, so at the end it won't matter
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Old 14th Nov 2009, 06:42
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Thanks Mr D.

Now its tme to throw my line in the water and hope the fish bite

Good luck to all applying.
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Old 14th Nov 2009, 13:56
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Hi, I am thinking about applying for this contract.
Could anyone tell me if your wife is able to stay with you during the initial 6 month training period? I would certainly not want to have to spend 6 months apart with only a weeks time together during the 6 month training period..
Are you put up in hotel accom during the first six months and if so can you other half stay with you in the hotel during that period?

Does anyone know of the cost to have you other half stay with you if the can not stay in the provided accom?

Cheers
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Old 14th Nov 2009, 15:08
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As has been mentioned before, this is all covered in depth within the preceding pages. During training your spouse will be able to visit twice for one week each time. The stay can actually be for the length of the visitor visa (90 days as I recall) but anything over one week will be on your own dime.
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Old 14th Nov 2009, 16:46
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Actually, what I have in my papers (Parc) only mentions "free return tickets to eligible dependents to visit Tokyo once during the training period".

And there's nothing on a break halfway during training, that would be nice. Can anyone confirm there is one (the break)?
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They pay for two return tickets for your wife (husband) and one return ticket for your kids. They also pay for a total of two weeks in the hotel for your wife (husband) and one week for your kids. There is no restriction on how often your family is allowed to visit and the stay is purely limited by the Japanese visa. Any flights or hotel bills in addition to those mentioned above are down to you to pay for.
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Old 16th Nov 2009, 12:09
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Fratemate

thank you
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Old 16th Nov 2009, 13:46
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Thanks for the info.

From the above it appears that you are put up in hotel accom during your six month training (is that always the case or are you sometimes put in apartments?) If it is always Hotel what is to stop your wife staying in the hotel room with you? (Apart from the additional cost of food etc I don' see why it costs anymore for two people to stay in a hotel room rather than one)

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Old 16th Nov 2009, 19:38
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I don' see why it costs anymore for two people to stay in a hotel room rather than one
Because hotels are in the occupancy business. As far as apartments vs. hotel during training AJX had their trainees at apartments and AJV had them at a hotel but what will the integrated company do? we just don't know at this point.

A couple more announcements to come, I have a feeling the music will stop for a while so grab your chairs
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Old 16th Nov 2009, 22:51
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If it is always Hotel what is to stop your wife staying in the hotel room with you?
Hotel policy is what stops your wife staying (free) with you. So, you have the choice; either pay for her after the two weeks are up or don't have her staying longer. Now, you know where you stay during training and you know the situation regarding costs involved, so can we get the thread back on line, rather than discussing the relative merits, or otherswise, of how the hotel business conducts its trade.
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Erm I think this is relative as it affects peoples lives who take up the contract. So if you don't mind I will ask any question i feel fit. (something that you regard as irrelevant may be important to someone else)

if you don't like people asking questions, don't answer them.

A lot of hotels I have stayed at are on a room basis (does not matter if one or two people stay in the room) the price is the same. that is why I was asking the question... so unless you have something constructive to say, don't bother replying to my questions.

Thanks you to those who have replied with helpful advice, its much appreciated, keep up the good work.

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