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Old 20th Jul 2017, 16:40
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@767 Autopilot .... I thought that might be the case re the JCAB. I spoke to the current company about switching to the 737 and it turns out they'd want to restart the clock on a 3 year bond if I switched ..... no thanks!

Will just have to up the FI hours in my spare time and hope for some generous rostering at work!
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 04:57
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B757UK there was a pilot here who left as soon as he possibly could to return to Jet2. Sometimes the grass isn't greener on the other side. Might be worth having an ask around to hear his perspective on things before you jump ship?
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 10:48
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@Hobbit I haven't come across this person yet so I'll see if I can figure out who that is and speak to them, unless you could just let me know somehow?

Unless they tell me something much worse to the things I've read in here I do think it is something I would like to apply for (whether I get it or not is a whole different matter).

Are there things that haven't been discussed in here that you would say I need to have in mind?
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Old 24th Jul 2017, 00:05
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Yes and yes...
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Old 28th Jul 2017, 07:23
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I sense a lot of disturbance in "the force" I understand people's frustrations and genetically by design we are ment to complain. We all have different reasons for taking or leaving jobs. (I'm giving up left seat 777 for this so I know some of you might cringe at that)

Was mainly wondering any POSITIVE feedback here? From the people I have personally met they seem quite happy!
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Old 28th Jul 2017, 15:06
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767 Autopilot



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I am quite sure that the 3000 total is a hard JCAB requirement for you to be eligible for the Japanese ATPL transition course
This was my understanding as well but we've had folks in training with less than this magic number, hence my advice to apply and see what happens, you can always update the app.... These are interesting times.

@Machpoint89.. Like in every job there are good things along with the bad T&C's MUST be improved, that is a fact.
Scheduling is a major issue as well.

But averall a great pilot group to fly with (we do have our 5%) the ability ti choose your days off and C class commute are good things about this gig. At the end of the day it works for some and not for others.

Come for the interview, find some of us in any watering hole in NRT, there are always a couple of us around and ask many questions.

Good luck
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Old 28th Jul 2017, 15:46
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Hi B757UK, I guess i'm the bloke that the Hobbit mentioned, pm me if you like. Kanpai.
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Old 29th Jul 2017, 10:59
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I'd send you a PM, but looks like my brain isn't working today. Can't find that option. Thanks for the info!

Originally Posted by The Dominican View Post
Like in every job there are good things along with the bad T&C's MUST be improved, that is a fact.
Scheduling is a major issue as well.

But averall a great pilot group to fly with (we do have our 5%) the ability ti choose your days off and C class commute are good things about this gig. At the end of the day it works for some and not for others.

Come for the interview, find some of us in any watering hole in NRT, there are always a couple of us around and ask many questions.

Good luck
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Old 31st Jul 2017, 16:00
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Would being fluent in Japanese and having a work visa for Japan help? I don't even have my CFI yet (faa commercial ASEL 400TT 23yo) but once I have the 3000TT and the 500Jet I would be pretty interested in this gig. Bonus if the 787 comes online before too long.
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Old 1st Aug 2017, 07:55
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Would being fluent in Japanese and having a work visa for Japan help?
No.

Most of us aren't and nobody else has one.
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Old 1st Aug 2017, 14:54
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Being fluent in Japanese would almost prove to be a detriment! Wouldn't be fun now - if the trainers knew you could understand them!!
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 06:23
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Any chance to apply for low timers (200 TT, FI rating, Frozen ATPL/CPL) ? Or is the 3000 hours TT & 500 jet a legal requirement by the JCAB for licence conversion?
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 10:25
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200 TT, FI rating, Frozen ATPL/CPL
Not even close mate.
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Old 29th Sep 2017, 06:03
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what are my chances?

I have been very interested in AJX for the last 2 years and I have been building my time. I live on Guam with my Japanese wife and I travel to Japan on a monthly basis. I would like to live in Japan full time. I am currently a Captain on an ATR42 flying in Micronesia for Cape Air as United Express. I have just over 3000 hours TT 1500 121 and around 150 hours pic in 121 turbine. the web sight says no prop time. Is that a hard core no go? Do i have a chance without jet time? Have the hired anyone without Jet time. I really don't want to quit my job just to get 500 jet time.

thanks!
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Old 29th Sep 2017, 12:15
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I received this email from CAE Parc Aviation

New Bonus Structure for Air Japan

Air Japan recently introduced a very generous annual bonus for a five year period for pilots who have worked with the airline for 3 years or more. Captains will receive USD 30,000 per year, increasing to USD 36,000 per year in the last 2 years. First Officers will receive USD 25,000 per year, increasing to USD 30,000 per year in the last 2 years.

Air Japan is a B767 operator based in Tokyo, Japan. It offers a family- friendly commuting contract of 18 days on with 12 consecutive days off, confirmed business class tickets home each month and a lucrative salary. The airline is committed to actively upgrading their First Officers and accepts applications from both rated and non-rated commercial jet pilots.

They will be coming to Frankfurt from November 17th to 19th to hold 3 days of screening for non-rated B767 First Officers. Both First Officers and Captains are welcome to apply for the role of First Officer. If you are interested in attending, please apply today as there are only 12 slots available!
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Old 29th Sep 2017, 15:35
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Any DEC with ANA; can you explain this requirement to hold a JCAB ATPL license at time of application, is it to weed out any DEC's joining that are not currently employed in Japan or ....? One would assume that the DEC would convert their license on joining right? Or wrong ? Or would one have to obtain a JCAB before applying at their own cost ? can't particularly say that the prospects of flying some 30 year old relics is too tempting, along with obtaining your own license is beginning to sound like an A&5e ache...
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Old 29th Sep 2017, 18:46
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JCAB ATPL

To apply for DEC You need a JCAB Atpl, meaning that You either are working or have worked in Japan before.
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Old 29th Sep 2017, 22:24
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a few years ago the company decided they would only look at DEC's who had a JCAB licence. What led to this was a high failure rate of non JCAB licensed DEC pilots.I guess there thinking was that a JCAB licence holder would know the Japanese system better and would improve the chances of success, I have no proof , but I don't think it made a huge difference. The way DEC's are trained makes it a very demanding option. I don't think getting a JCAB licence on your own is a practical option, the language would be one of the many problems.If one really wanted to come work here, I think it may be a safer option to join as an FO and then wait your turn for the upgrade. Just saying!

All new hires will have their licences converted to JCAB during the training period.

The requirements, as far as experience goes, are pretty firm. If you really want the answer, submit an application. The worst they can do is say "no"

The documentation we received about the bonus scheme said the bonus was for the next 5 years. It is not written into our contract yet, only an email from Air Japan. Whether the bonus will be paid after 5 years, who knows?
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Old 30th Sep 2017, 01:24
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On one side I suppose they must be getting enough applicants otherwise they would offer a different type to foreigners as well and ease the requirements, on the other I must say they have been hiring non stop for the last decade or more...so something must be going on.
The last ad says both capt and fo are welcome to apply for the fo role..on a VERY old aircraft, for half the money on offer in many other places. I sure am wrong, but this seems unlikely to me.

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Old 30th Sep 2017, 02:47
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hence why recruitment is ongoing, more leaving than desired and less joining to meet attrition and expansion requirements
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