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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 17:57
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1.1.3 REGULAR PILOTS (CAPTAIN, FIRST OFFICER ANDSECOND OFFICER)
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Flight Operations Department (FOD) shall process applicants who meet the following minimum qualifications:

a. Height:
Must be at least 5 ft. 4 in.
Hope this helps, this is what I got from the FOD.
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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 22:09
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Go to Bupak. We got Pilots waaaay shorter than 5'4. The 320's have fully adjustable rudder pedals and seats anyway. They just need to unlatch the seatbelts to reach the fuel pump switches... All three or four "vertically-challenged" f/o's are excellent pilots and most have upgraded to captains already.
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Old 24th Apr 2008, 14:33
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thnx @thrust_clb! Im still taking up my college degree and I am planning to pursue a pilot career in the airlines. My height is between 5'1" and 5'2". thnx for keeping my hopes up..
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thats true..

rudder pedals and seats are adjustable(electrically or mechanical), so even the small person can possibly fly a narrow/widebody aircraft
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answers please...

When you apply like when you submit your resume through online, email or in person, the HR department wont require you yet to show evidence or supporting documents to confirm flight time right? Resume's only show quick facts and once granted interview thats when you are required to show evidence right?

I have this problem right now where my flight time in the school (SCHOOL RECORDS - i missed to type this awhile ago) does not match my logbook because of the safety pilot time. I dont know if cebpac or pal requires certifications or something.

Thanks.

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Old 27th Apr 2008, 03:48
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Well, the requirents for PAL is when you go for your PAQB you may have to show proof by any means to show that you have acquired the time truthfully.

Payment records
Pay stubs
etc...

As for safety pilot time, try to log it as if you were flying the airplane. Under the 14 CFR 61, you are acting PIC and not PIC itself. Most airlines do not like safety pilot time and also most people in the states log the time PIC instead of safety pilot time. This is to eliminate most of the vagueness that is associtated with trying to decipher the rules that is written in LATIN.

Big tip, make sure you're name is the primary pilot on any payment record so you have proof of your time. Keep any records that can supplement your log book.

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Philippines Carrier Pal Express to Train 72 Pilots in May

MANILA, April 30 Asia Pulse - Some 72 new pilots will be trained by PAL Express, the budget fare unit of Philippine Airlines (PAL), the national flag carrier, starting May, this year, for its inter-island operation. Jaime Bautista, PAL president and COO, said the new pilots are being trained to handle turbo-propeller aircraft.
Mr Bautista said PAL is spending US$150 million for the acquisition and maintenance of nine turbo prop aircraft composed of three Q300s and six Q400s that PAL Express is acquiring this year.
"It plans to borrow US$100 million from a syndicate of banks to partially finance the aircraft while the balance would come from internal funds," Mr Bautista said.
The hiring of new pilots will significantly increase the number of PAL pilots from around 500.
It should be noted that half of the current PAL pilot personnel are fully trained. ADVERTISEMENT

Mr Bautista said that PAL had increased the salaries and benefits of its pilots to prevent their exodus from the Philippines.
"There was one time it cost PAL almost US$8 million for additional benefits of pilots," Mr Bautista said, adding that the retirement pay of pilots was increased from 22.5 days to 1.5 months.
PAL will take over the Cebu hub operations of Air Philippines as well as its Manila-Caticlan flights.
Air Philippines will continue to fly from Manila to Iloilo, Zamboanga and Tuguegarao, he added.
Both airlines are majority owned by Lucio Tan.
When fully operational, PAL Express is expected to add one million passengers to the PAL network annually and contribute P1 billion (US$23.7 million) in revenues, including a net income of P300 million, Mr Bautista said.
The airline is reopening its Cebu hub from the turboprop fleet, which will serve the growing intra-regional market in the Visayas and Mindanao.
PAL's turboprop services are scheduled to take off on May 5, with eight flights daily from Manila to Caticlan, gateway to the resort island of Boracay.
In the third week of May, PAL will launch services of varying frequencies between Cebu and five points - Caticlan, Bacolod, Tacloban, Butuan, and General Santos.
In the same week, a daily flight between Manila and Busuanga in the northern Palawan will also start, along with a ninth day daily frequency to Caticlan.
In the last week of May, three more points will be added to the Cebu hub network; Davao with thrice daily flights; Iloilo, twice daily; and Puerto Princesa, a single daily flight.
The airline is offering a promo one-way fare of P88, excluding taxes and surcharges, as well as flights from Cebu to other southern cities. The special fare is available until May 18 and is good for travel from May 19 to August 15 only.
Mr Bautista said PAL is also buying six new Boeing 777, to be delivered until September next year.
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Frankly, I'm wondering where the $8 million went?
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Old 7th May 2008, 02:33
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Please clarify

To Bansai and the lot,

What is the difference between a Second Officer and a Limited Second Officer?

comments are more than welcome.
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Old 7th May 2008, 18:32
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SO and LSOT

I don't even know and I asked them about it.
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PAL and Cebu Pac Pay Scale

Hello,

I am new to this board and just wondering if any PAL or Cebu Pac can tell me the current pay scale for junior and senior wide body(PAL) Capt. and FO's for both airlines?

Thank you,


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At US $1= Php 42: 5J A320 F/O US $2,500 net. 5J ATR Capt US $3,000 net.
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Old 12th May 2008, 03:53
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LIMITED First Officers

only two in recent history.. one on the 737 and the other on the A320.

basic requirement: maximum of three letters in the family name.
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Thank You - Bansai

Thank you Bansai !

I was wondering. My wife wanted me to try it out with PAL or Cebu Pac there several years ago but not sure the pay scale, contracts, and other things. As she did not want to move to the U.S.

Thank you so much for the insight and information. I had a good friend that used to work at PAL now his here and hope things goes well with everyone there and the current situation.

Many thanks,

Ichigo
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Old 15th May 2008, 10:27
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ATO offical flying at PAL?

Sirs:


can i ask who is the ATO official who flies in PAL?

(PIC)

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Old 15th May 2008, 12:14
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correction on bupak a320 pay. Captains with mid-seniority (nos.45-65) net $6000/month.
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Old 15th May 2008, 12:33
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Don't know about ATO official in PAL, but a former ATO head is with Bupak.
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Old 15th May 2008, 12:58
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yes!


A ATO personnel flies a aircraft of PAL...
because of 4stripes and a small ATO written w/his shoulder stripes.
then he was fetched by the nissan urban together w/a band of brothers (F/O) in ATO office.
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Old 15th May 2008, 23:40
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NGC Air Emergency

PAL flight 434 was featured in this new national geographic series. just sharing hehe. its about a bomb exploding on board damaging aileron and auto pilot but still capt ed reyes was still able to land the plane using differential control. bravo! damn he is good. hehehe

goodluck everyone
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Old 17th May 2008, 11:37
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PAL A320 Capts can earn also more than $6,000 net with 85-90 hours flying time.
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ATO pilots flying the line

no fuss about ATO pilots flying in the line of any airline in the Phils. They are doing check rides as a license requirement for renewal.

When they "fly", it's done from the jump seat. Only a fully qualified pilot can sit in front (finished full course, prof check every six months, recurrent training, etc.)

Fetching them in the ATO office is part of the courtesy extended to them when they do a license check.

True. The ATO office is along the way to the airport.
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