R/T status in KL FIR
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Thank you very much. I fully agree with you and I'll not just drop the matter but forget it as well.
We'll use this forum to improve our service.
Please pay us a visit at our work place (Subang ATCC) any time, better unoffically. Even better with no Bosses. All we need is the front line people. This will go a long way in appreciating and understanding each others problem.
Talking about humour it reminds of something that really took place in the old ATCC. The inter com between Lumpur Sector 1 and Bangkok Sector 5 was intermittent. So the lady controller at Bangkok Sector 5 complained to the guy at Lumpur Sector 1, "Lumpur,Lumpur you are coming in and out, in and out". The guy from Lumpur responded by saying, I'm not complaining.
Thank you very much. I fully agree with you and I'll not just drop the matter but forget it as well.
We'll use this forum to improve our service.
Please pay us a visit at our work place (Subang ATCC) any time, better unoffically. Even better with no Bosses. All we need is the front line people. This will go a long way in appreciating and understanding each others problem.
Talking about humour it reminds of something that really took place in the old ATCC. The inter com between Lumpur Sector 1 and Bangkok Sector 5 was intermittent. So the lady controller at Bangkok Sector 5 complained to the guy at Lumpur Sector 1, "Lumpur,Lumpur you are coming in and out, in and out". The guy from Lumpur responded by saying, I'm not complaining.
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No harm done.
I was asked what heading I prefered when airbourne 14L for weather deviation near AGOSA sometimes back.I couldn't do that as I can't see what's was behind me. Just wonder if you ATClers aware that we can't see anything more than 45 degrees either side from present heading.
No harm done.
I was asked what heading I prefered when airbourne 14L for weather deviation near AGOSA sometimes back.I couldn't do that as I can't see what's was behind me. Just wonder if you ATClers aware that we can't see anything more than 45 degrees either side from present heading.
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I don't think that most ATClers are aware about this 45deg vision on either side.Perhaps the ATCler was being pro-active in advising u earlier but thanks for the info. I'll pass it on to all concerned.It is definitely a good piece of info
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You mean the radar at Bukit Subang is down. If I recall it caught fire in 1994 rite? And now its down again. So who are we relying on then?
Yeah,he is definately trying to be helpful.Here is a link to show how most weather radars look like in the plane.
http://www.eu-flysafe.org/EU-Flysafe...ge/weather.jpg
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Thanks FL..good pix.
Hi pecyamfa...we r now relying on the Genting Radar. the Bt.Subang acts as a back-up.If Genting fails..then Appraoch will depend on the KLIA Radar and one more called the TRAD(Transportable Radar based at KLIA also). Not much of a problem for approach but very problematic for Area CTLers( we may have to use slot times).Our main problem with Genting is not so much of a maintenance one but more so based on nature i.e ligtning strikes.Just FYI the Genting is also linked with the Langkawi and Johore Radars.
Hi pecyamfa...we r now relying on the Genting Radar. the Bt.Subang acts as a back-up.If Genting fails..then Appraoch will depend on the KLIA Radar and one more called the TRAD(Transportable Radar based at KLIA also). Not much of a problem for approach but very problematic for Area CTLers( we may have to use slot times).Our main problem with Genting is not so much of a maintenance one but more so based on nature i.e ligtning strikes.Just FYI the Genting is also linked with the Langkawi and Johore Radars.
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Thanks FL..good pix.
Hi pecyamfa...we r now relying on the Genting Radar. the Bt.Subang acts as a back-up.If Genting fails..then Appraoch will depend on the KLIA Radar and one more called the TRAD(Transportable Radar based at KLIA also). Not much of a problem for approach but very problematic for Area CTLers( we may have to use slot times).Our main problem with Genting is not so much of a maintenance one but more so based on nature i.e ligtning strikes.Just FYI the Genting is also linked with the Langkawi and Johore Radars.
Hi pecyamfa...we r now relying on the Genting Radar. the Bt.Subang acts as a back-up.If Genting fails..then Appraoch will depend on the KLIA Radar and one more called the TRAD(Transportable Radar based at KLIA also). Not much of a problem for approach but very problematic for Area CTLers( we may have to use slot times).Our main problem with Genting is not so much of a maintenance one but more so based on nature i.e ligtning strikes.Just FYI the Genting is also linked with the Langkawi and Johore Radars.
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Absolutely no idea . I believe that spares have to be ordered and this takes time..time..time...time..time...time...oops sorry...tape stuck.
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SSR Frequency
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Is the SSR interrogator frequency fixed at 1030 MHz, is there any system that operates at 1029, 1031, 1032 Mhz, etc. What will happen if it does?
Is the SSR interrogator frequency fixed at 1030 MHz, is there any system that operates at 1029, 1031, 1032 Mhz, etc. What will happen if it does?
Taxy Clearence
Thumbs up again for ATClers! This time in shorterning the take off clearence by moving the instruction to call 119.45 to Ground 121.65 and into ATIS.Good job.
Now ,can we do the similar to taxy clearences? It is common to receive taxy clearence as "Cleared taxy onto F5,F,B8,B,B5,A,holding point 14L,hold short B".Can we do it like:" Cleared taxy onto F5,F,hold short B"? Perhaps the clearence could just state what is 'cleared' and drop those 'expected' taxy intruction. I find that if apron controller issue the whole taxy clearence than there is chance of confussion or conflict when change over to 121.65 when approaching B where another taxy clearence will be issued. Can we just get what is cleared until we are reaching the clearence limit point then switch over and get the subsequent clearences?
Now ,can we do the similar to taxy clearences? It is common to receive taxy clearence as "Cleared taxy onto F5,F,B8,B,B5,A,holding point 14L,hold short B".Can we do it like:" Cleared taxy onto F5,F,hold short B"? Perhaps the clearence could just state what is 'cleared' and drop those 'expected' taxy intruction. I find that if apron controller issue the whole taxy clearence than there is chance of confussion or conflict when change over to 121.65 when approaching B where another taxy clearence will be issued. Can we just get what is cleared until we are reaching the clearence limit point then switch over and get the subsequent clearences?
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Hi Pecyamfa..as far as I can recall 1030 is fixed meaning u can't alter it on ground. The acft will respond on 1090. However under ADS-B the ground system can also transmit on 1090. I am not sure whether this freq can be altered. Will look into it.
FL..your suggesstion regarding KLIA taxy clrce has been forwarded to the person concerned.
FL..your suggesstion regarding KLIA taxy clrce has been forwarded to the person concerned.
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IAS and G/Speed
Hi Flyers....I need a link whereby I can compare IAS and G/Speed accurately. We seem to push down acft on Cruise and Descend much earlier. The chart that we depend on now maybe a bit outdated. Tq for your effort.
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Instead of trying to derive a relation between IAS and GSpeed,why not just instruct planes to fly a given GSpeed? I would say 99% of a/c that operate at KLIA do have Gspeed indication in the cockpit readily,normally on the same instrument with IAS.
Furthermore,given a fixed IAS,planes from direction will have very different GSpeed due to wind direction.Wind strengh and direction also varies in altitude.As the a/c decent with a fix IAS,its Gspeed changes as wind varies.the Gspeed will change when the a/c turn its heading.IAS has no meaning when the a/c is above FL250,making it difficult for you guys.
I believe for ATClers,Distance to go and GSpeed will be the best sequence planning game plan.For the pilots,we can just adjust a knob to get the GSpeed.I've been in TMA where ATC give GSpeed requirement.
Instead of trying to derive a relation between IAS and GSpeed,why not just instruct planes to fly a given GSpeed? I would say 99% of a/c that operate at KLIA do have Gspeed indication in the cockpit readily,normally on the same instrument with IAS.
Furthermore,given a fixed IAS,planes from direction will have very different GSpeed due to wind direction.Wind strengh and direction also varies in altitude.As the a/c decent with a fix IAS,its Gspeed changes as wind varies.the Gspeed will change when the a/c turn its heading.IAS has no meaning when the a/c is above FL250,making it difficult for you guys.
I believe for ATClers,Distance to go and GSpeed will be the best sequence planning game plan.For the pilots,we can just adjust a knob to get the GSpeed.I've been in TMA where ATC give GSpeed requirement.
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Hi Pec...yes..the spares for the back-up has arrived..God knows from where..even then it was bcos of the timely intervention of the Director General of DCA himself.
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fly groundspeed? must be an Ace...throttles will be spooling up & down..ull be just too busy to fly after having to adjust ur speed accordingly....descend 270knots leave level now...lets say FL350...what would be your g/s then...are you going to maintain the given g/s at FL350 till FL150?
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Hi Deck II...I have personally used G/Speed reductions to achieve the desired result by requesting pilots to reduce g/speed above F280. I know that above F260 u guys are already on Mach No.techniques. Our Flow Control restrictions start about 100nm from KLIA.Hence when we say leave level now(F350 descend FL150 Speed 270kts...we expect u guys to descend on your normal profile from F350 but on passing say F260 and below the speed is to be 270kts(IAS). U may have your own reservations about g/speed reductions but there have been many occasions where g/speed reductions have helped the ATClers.Remember...the descent speed is to be achieved on passing F260 and below.