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ckthepilot 23rd Apr 2012 03:03

Sp0r3

I requested for any location on the application. So ehh, I have to pay for my own travel expenses to HK for Stage 1 if I do go for the invite? :ugh:

orangeboy 23rd Apr 2012 03:12

Stage 1 costs is all covered by the applicant.

Stage 2 and above, CX cover the costs.

etrang 23rd Apr 2012 04:23


If you join this airline, plan on never leaving HKG
Nonsense. If you join CX as a pilot you will leave HK multiple times every month.

Beba 23rd Apr 2012 05:16

Q on what countires flown over from LDN to HKG
 
Hi everyone,

I'm preparing for my initial interview for CX CPP...

I've tried searching for the following on the net but to no avail;
Which countries do you will fly over if traveling from London to Hong Kong?

ThankS :)

MrBawse 23rd Apr 2012 05:36

Hi all,

Does anyone know how to get their hands on the CX recruiting schedules? Not just for this year in particular...

cheers

captain.weird 23rd Apr 2012 06:56

Hi there,Did somebody hear something about the hiring policy? Will the 61wks course be closed for international applicants without HKID? And for how long?? Some news or something like that???Cheerss

chan1008 23rd Apr 2012 07:20

SECOND OFFICER PROGRAMME
 
Hi everyone, I just did my ICAO English last week and received the following email today. Is this a form of rejection letter? Did anyone received the same email?

Thanks

SECOND OFFICER PROGRAMME

Further to your application for a Cathay Pacific Airways Second Officer programme and subsequent assessments, we regret to advise you that the progression of your application in the recruitment process has been delayed.

Please inform us of any changes in address, or education qualifications during this period, with a view to re-commence your application in 12 months.


In the meantime we would like to wish you every success.

r3dr0cket 23rd Apr 2012 08:01

Updated interview process (according to the HR lady)
 
hey everybody, I just had my interview on the 20th (Friday). Interview was a little different than I expected/read from the forums. Here is the rundown:

Personality test, reasoning test, JKI booklet test (the same)
Interview (purely HR, no tech whatsoever)

Asked the HR lady regarding the interview process, instead of three stages, it has been cut to two and then straight to flight grading (with ICAO english test between the two).

Also heard they are trying to fill up the CP class for July/August with 18 potential cadets in each class.

Hope this information helps you guys with your future endeavors and best of luck to all!

PS: passed the 1st stage, ICAO test on June 4th, fingers crossed!

r3dr0cket 23rd Apr 2012 08:28

Updated interview process (according to the HR lady)
 
Just had my first interview on April 20th (Friday). The process was pretty close to what was said on these forums (JKI test, personality, reasoning test). The only difference was that the interview was purely HR.

Out of the 6 of us that day, we all got 2 ladies (one person got a guy and a lady) as the interviewers and after asking all my fellow interviewees, the questions were not technical at all. The questions consisted of general HR questions (school, work, life, reasons to be a pilot), some general Cathay Knowledge to some details regarding the flight training course/school in Adeilade.

After the interview was over, I asked them about this year's interview process and it looks as though it will be a little different;

Instead of 3 stages, its cut to two (with ICAO english test in between)
After passing stage two, it will be onto flight grading
They are trying to fill up the class for July/August so they are in a hurry.

Hope that this information helps you guys with the interview this year.

PS: passed first stage, ICAO english test on the 4th of June. Will be updating as my interview process advances along the stages!

ashokbhatt1 23rd Apr 2012 09:51

r3drocket

How many hours do you have??
the july/august batch you talking about is for the advanced entry guys or for ones who are going for 61 week course??

regards

r3dr0cket 23rd Apr 2012 09:58

ashokbhatt1
 
i have 0 hours, the july/august is for the 61 week I presume (not 100% sure) as when we i asked the question, she seemed to be referring to candidates like myself.

lucky86 23rd Apr 2012 10:04

Congrats red rocket,

I did my first interview in Sydney on the 16th and got a HR and pilot for my initial interview. Unfortunately I did not do as well as I wanted in the interview, but the tests I think I managed well.

I am still waiting for a reply, the HR lady did say I have to wait 3 to 4 weeks for a response..

So again, well done in passing 1st stage, I've been waiting for a week now and it's probably the longest week I've ever endured! Lol.

I really want this, but I have to say, I'm looking a bit shaky in getting a 2nd interview, I guess I'll see in another few weeks. *sigh

I dont know what the ICAO English testing process is in Australia, I'm pretty sure I still have to do it being born and brought up in Australia to keep the same standard for overseas applicant. So maybe wait for result on initial interview, get ICAO testing booked, and then a 2nd interview offer? Surely they wouldn't waste time offering you a 2nd stage interview if you are not to ICAO standard.

Anyhows, back to hurrying up and waiting..

Samsungcx 23rd Apr 2012 17:51

I was called to attend the 2nd stage interview in mid of May.
Is there anyone going to have the interview at that time? Pls PM me.:ok:

M Pereira 23rd Apr 2012 20:00

Samsungcx- Are you going for the AE or cadet? I have passed the first stage but still waiting for a date for Stage 2. I was informed that it will most probably be at the end of May but nothing has been finalized.

Sp0r3 24th Apr 2012 02:16

@lucky86
You are correct. You will still require to take part in the ICAO English Assessment regardless of your English background. Not only do you have to possess a proficient level of English, but you will also need to be able to comprehend English with a slight accent (which you will encounter when flying international). Don't worry, I thought I did mediocre (eventhough I'm a native English speaker) but I passed the assessment anyways.

From my understanding, here is how the new Stages are set (for HKG, not sure about internationals):

Stage 1
- JKI Test
- Reasoning Test
- Personality Test
- HR General Interview (No Tech)

Stage 1.5
- ICAO English Assessment

Stage 2
- General & Technical Interview
- Mental Math Test
- Flight Planning
- Group Exercise

Stage 2+
- Medical Exam

- Flight Grading

orangeboy 24th Apr 2012 02:20

If you're in Hong Kong, then they will normally get you to do the ICAO English test before stage 2.

If you're outside HK, you will normally do the ICAO English test at stage 2 or at the HR course you attend just before you start training in Adelaide (i.e. after you have been accepted into the program)

Samsungcx 24th Apr 2012 02:52

Hi M Pereira,
I go for the cadet one and I have already passed the ICAO test.

chan1008 24th Apr 2012 02:55

rejection letter
 
Hi everybody, did my ICAO assessment last Friday, and received the following email today. Did anyone received the same email, I am wondering the nature of this email, was it a rejection letter?
Many thanks


SECOND OFFICER PROGRAMME

Further to your application for a Cathay Pacific Airways Second Officer programme and subsequent assessments, we regret to advise you that the progression of your application in the recruitment process has been delayed.

Please inform us of any changes in address, or education qualifications during this period, with a view to re-commence your application in 12 months.

In the meantime we would like to wish you every success.

ER-ACER 24th Apr 2012 03:01

HELP is AROUND
 
Guys from India who got calls for ROUND 2 .... Give me a yell .... could be of help :ok:

if you breaking your head :ugh: on what is to be done !!! do PM me .Might have some good **** for ya

ckthepilot 24th Apr 2012 03:26

Is it safe to say that both AE and Ab-Initio interview process is the same?

smurf84 24th Apr 2012 03:43

ckthepilot - No, it isn't.

ER-ACER 24th Apr 2012 03:49

CKthepilot
 
The structure of the interview various sometimes based on location of interview and available resources.e.g. in HKG they have a different battery of skill test they use.Whereas outports they seem to use test as WOMBAT.But the JKI test ,computer aptitude test , and the Ravens progressive reasoning test seems to be a common thing for both

The "make or breaker " which is the personal interview will totally depend on the experice you carry into that room.Need less to say they will push you to the limits .Its always good to know more than what you are supposed.You have to draw a line cause there is too much.

As for the Flight grading, things vary .Please refer to older post's.:ok:

lucky86 24th Apr 2012 04:27

Thanks for your support Sp0r3,

All I want is a chance at the 2nd Interview, I dont just want a 'holiday' to HK, I'm currently working FT, and I don't have much annual leave to have a holiday anyways. lol..

flypaul 24th Apr 2012 05:46

Hi Guys,

what does the JKI test mean?

Thx

ER-ACER 24th Apr 2012 07:16

JKI TEST
 
Its the technical quiz test out of the - General Knowledge Information -booklet they send to you as part of the 1st Round Invite Package.

flypaul 24th Apr 2012 07:48

Thanks for ur answer!

gasperh90 24th Apr 2012 07:58

Is there an existing list of places where and when Stages 1 are being held for this year? Or do I get to choose the most suitable place for myself after I send them the application?

Thank u

greatbattle 24th Apr 2012 08:42

ICAO English Assessment
 
Hi Sp0r3.

Since you've been under the spot light, I wanna ask what kind of English will be involved in ICAO assessment. I know this ICAO thing designed by Cathay is purely aim for evaluating one's English ability and has nothing to do with the practical aviation language. but is there any political or Scientific Scenario with tons of difficult vocabularies that can be frequently found in ACT or SAT Exam involved in the test that we're gonna paraphrase and explain to the assessor? To achieve level 5/6 to pass the test are we expected to speak like a legitimate lawyer, reporter or news anchor like Anderson Cooper, Pier Morgan etc?

My ICAO assessment is in June but I don't know what i should prepare at this point. I heard a guy who scored band 8 in IELTS got Level 3 in CX ICAO, which came a shock to me. Is it difficult for non-native English speaker who speaks English on a regular basis to pass the test do you think?

Sp0r3 24th Apr 2012 09:28

@greatbattle

The test itself is pretty much an English comprehension exercise. There are no industrial jargons that you have to know. The purpose of this test is to see if you can interprit the English language correctly spoken by people with different accents.

As for your IELTS comments, IELTS and ICAO English Assessment emphasize on different aspects of English. Where IELTS is focused on reading and writing (with some oral components), ICAO test is wholely based on conversation comprehension. There is no writing involved with ICAO Assessment. And ICAO tests on your ability to comprehend the language under a variation of accents from people of different ethnicity.

orangeboy 24th Apr 2012 10:43

The English Test has a number of components:

In no particular order

1. Given a number of words from the tester, explain what you think they mean

2. Listen to a number of conversations on a recording, then answer some questions in relation to them

3. Look at a picture, describe it from a certain perspective e.g. as if you were the person in the picture.

4. Watch a video then answer questions in relation to the video

5. Choose some items from a list and explain why you chose them

The main thing is really to try and relax as much as possible. There's no trick, it really is just seeing how well you can use and understand the english language.

As mentioned, there is no technical jargon or complex questions. If you can speak and understand english reasonably, you will do fine.

Beba 24th Apr 2012 12:49

@ Sp0r3
 
Hey Sp0r3,

would you be so kind in aswering my question too mate?

I have my initial interview in May and am worried about it, namely the JKI test and Reasoning test.

For the JKI test.... are the questions like PPL questions? I have 15 flying hours and was told by a cadet to learn beyond my ability up to and including PPL knowledge.

In terms of the abstract reasoning test.... how hard is it and how did you personally prepare for it?

Cheers Sp0r3!

tchanhk 24th Apr 2012 14:34

hi

so the first stage

is the tech multiple-choice side/interview based on the jki booklet or much more?

ckthepilot 24th Apr 2012 14:53


Originally Posted by ER-ACER (Post 7152831)
Its the technical quiz test out of the - General Knowledge Information -booklet they send to you as part of the 1st Round Invite Package.

What else do they send in preparing for Stage 1? Anything about the company in general?

Sp0r3 24th Apr 2012 15:20

@beba
The JKI multiple choice is just based on the booklet, with maybe 2-3 (I forgot the exact number) that is not included from the booklet. But the answer is pretty simple. Don't sweat about it

The reasoning test is just the Ravens Progressive Matrices test. It's also nothing to sweat about. You can't really prepare it as its pretty much spot the pattern type of questions.

vinit 24th Apr 2012 15:31

hi
 
hi i am from india..i had also applied for this program but i didnt receive any email from them. Has the 1st round for india conducted already?

r3dr0cket 24th Apr 2012 17:49

chan1008
 
chan1008, what would be a possible reason for the rejection after the ICAO test? I thought it was pretty hard to fail. Thank you for any insight in advance.

M Pereira 24th Apr 2012 18:56

Bond737

I am going for the AE course. I did stage 1 in HK in October last year, and passed the interview and all but not the reasoning test. Re-wrote it in March and passed, so just waiting on the dates for Stage 2.

Anyone else recieved dates yet for stage 2 AE course?

ckthepilot 24th Apr 2012 19:34


Originally Posted by M Pereira (Post 7153979)
Bond737

I am going for the AE course. I did stage 1 in HK in October last year, and passed the interview and all but not the reasoning test. Re-wrote it in March and passed, so just waiting on the dates for Stage 2.

Anyone else recieved dates yet for stage 2 AE course?

Say what? CX actually gave you 2 chances on Stage I? They must be hurting for pilots.

captain.weird 24th Apr 2012 19:46


Say what? CX actually gave you 2 chances on Stage I? They must be hurting for pilots.
.

They are indeed.

adamctk 25th Apr 2012 01:12

Interview stage
 
Stage 1
- JKI Test
- Reasoning Test
- Personality Test
- HR General Interview (No Tech)

Stage 1.5
- ICAO English Assessment

Stage 2
- General & Technical Interview
- Mental Math Test
- Flight Planning
- Group Exercise

Stage 2+
- Medical Exam

- Flight Grading

I can confirm the interview stages are absolutely correct because It is what I did all.

One tip for ICAO. The examiners can find out somehow you have known the questions before the exam or not. So it is pointless to ask for the questions before ICAO.

Good luck and see you guys in FTA later.


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