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Smell the Coffee 7th Jan 2011 13:43

It's blatantly obvious some people can't be bothered to read this thread prior to asking questions that have been answered many times before.

Guys and girls, if you are serious about this application then take the time to make yourself a coffee, sit down somewhere comfortable and READ THIS THREAD FROM THE START.

It doesn't take that long and many of the posts can be skipped over as they just ask stupid questions ...

Come on guys ... it's not hard.

nmcpilot 7th Jan 2011 14:58

They will get back to you in exactly 12 days. You will have your interview on the 14th day then you'll be in the back of a 747 after about 17 days.

carpet weaver 7th Jan 2011 16:42

well i guess ill ask it again cause no one responded

I just applied and reviewed my application only to find that not all my flight time saved on the form. Im not sure what the problem is but just curious if anyone knows who I can contact to fix this problem. Thanks in advance.

superdunkaroos 8th Jan 2011 04:43

Skimmed through the last few pages

Cathay was going to conduct interviews in Vancouver in jan 2011, any info?

futureTP 8th Jan 2011 09:00

nmcpilot don't you mean in front of a 747 lol... guys best thing to do is read the thread you will get the answers to all your questions!

Expect to wait at least 6 months before you hear back unless you are willing to travel to HK on your own account.

Anyone on here going to stage 2 in the next few weeks?

nmcpilot I found some similar maths stuff drop me your email and ill send it over.

carpet weaver 10th Jan 2011 04:18

I emailed them at the cadet email cause of a mistake on my application and to move my preferred location to hong kong. anyone know how long it takes to get an email back from them? Its been 2 days, im debating sending another one.

midnightsky 10th Jan 2011 04:57

It usually takes longer than 2 days.
Try to wait for a week. =)

carpet weaver 10th Jan 2011 04:59

thanks midnightsky

Do you know if they are friendly. I filled in my flight time but when i went to review my application it didnt save for some reason so I emailed them and told them what happend and sent them my current flight time

midnightsky 10th Jan 2011 05:02

Well, those mails are sent to a common mail and it depends whoever views your mail you see.
Yea, I can say they are friendly but the response that you might get will probably sounds generic to you.

EGGD 10th Jan 2011 17:30

I'll be attending Stage 2 in Hong Kong January 18th/19th as well.

midnightsky 12th Jan 2011 13:09

Guys, I was wondering, is the book "Ace the Technical Pilot Question" necessary for stage 1? I mean, I've been reading books after books just to get prepared. Just wondering, is it necessary?

herrtob 12th Jan 2011 13:22

re: midnightsky
 
can't give you a definitive answer as you know they may throw anything at you.

however stage 1 tends to be quite simple. but that said, if you have time, why not just read it, you'll need it later anyway. beware of some bad answers from the book though (can't remember which but this view is echoed)

midnightsky 12th Jan 2011 13:24

re: herrtob
 
Yea, thought the same way too.
I don't want to underestimate those questions in round 1 but I want to be well prepared as well...
I saw that book in a bookshop today and gosh, it's quite expensive...
I might buy the book, not for the interview but to look around at those type of questions. =)

dagger19 12th Jan 2011 14:20

midnightsky

it is gd to look through the book. i dont think you will be asked those specific questions tho if u have 0 flying hrs. but im sure it will help u to understand the concepts better. i went through the book, but i think i can only remember maybe 10% after reading? haha. its a gd book on top of JKT book. =)

herrtob 12th Jan 2011 14:41

for zero hours applicants like myself i would recommend the 17chapters of FAA's "technical knowledge for pilots" in between JKI and ACE. it's available at FAA website. found it very comprehensive in establishing a baseline

midnightsky 12th Jan 2011 16:06

re: dagger19 & herrtob
 
dagger19:
LOL, I browsed through the book in the bookstore just now and I only managed to understand to front part of the book only. Hahaha... Bummer =.=

herrtob:
I've read that booklet too. Seems to be pretty straight forward.
Oops, wait, the one I've got is Pilot's Handbook for Aeronautical Knowledge.
I'm guessing that's the one right?
Did you do your Stage 1 already?
You did right??

herrtob 12th Jan 2011 16:54

midnightsky
 
ooops, caught.... i didn't print out the front cover so i read everything else but the title
spot on...that's the title, Pilot's Handbook for Aeronautical Knowledge.... thanks for correction, phew~

yes i did stage 1 when it was still divided into 1a and 1b. stage 2 on 20th.

how's everyone progressing?

carpet weaver 13th Jan 2011 04:57

how long does it take to get an email back from these people?

DZPILOT87 13th Jan 2011 08:54

Hi guys,

Regarding the technical pilot books, I would like to know the best suitable for me to pass an interview (Part 1) with a company such as Qatar Airways.
I have checked online and found different type of books. Would appreciate your help guys .... Thanx

herrtob 13th Jan 2011 09:26

Dzpilot87
 
firstly, we don't know you. we don't know your hours, your ratings, no nothing.

secondly this is cx cpp thread, and i personally don't know qatar, don't know if you're applying for cadet (if there's even one) or direct entry for whatever position.

so how do you suppose we are to answer your question?

but in general, read everything? ACE/FBJ/HBJ stuff like that

DZPILOT87 13th Jan 2011 09:47

herrtob
 
Mate,

Sorry, I'm new in this website.I'm 24 years old and live in Qatar and will soon obtain QCAA Frozen ATP CPL-IR MCC with 250 hours, this license is based on JAA and recognized by EASA/ICAO.

Qatar Airways have a 3 step interview which takes place in qatar and dubai every year. On their first step, a 50 to 100 question tech test is given on the first day along with the sychometric test and english proficiency test...

Thanks

crwjerk 13th Jan 2011 13:29

You had 2 tries at spelling CATHAY in your first 2 sentences. The interviewers won't like that.........:E

skycaesar 13th Jan 2011 23:18

Quick question
 
Hi all, :O

Quick question : Do CX except CPL+IR+ME holders with more than TT250 hrs :rolleyes: ?

Thank you all

40Deg STH 13th Jan 2011 23:22

Sky, yes!! And the good thing is, with these few hours, they wont be too hard on you in the sim check

futureTP 15th Jan 2011 20:49

Maths Q's
 
Hi Guys,

Just been working through some of the maths q's that have been posted on here before and wondering if you agree with my answers and/or if there is anything I haven't thought about... would appreciate your input just trying to get ready for stage 2!!!!

1) An A/C was flying at 38000’ (FL380) and OAT was -40 Degrees. What should the OAT be according to ISA? Is it warmer or colder than ISA? By how much?-56.5 warmer then ISA by 16.5 degrees!

2) Ground temp was 29 degrees, cloud base was 2000’. What is temperature of a parcel of air @ 4000’ using DALR and SALR? 20 degrees!

3) If we are flying at 540kt at FL360 with 100nm to go before waypoint A, and we need to reach FL390 by waypoint A, and our climb rate is 1000fpm, when is the latest before waypoint A that we need to start our climb?27 NM before A

4) If we are at 3000’ and the QNH is 990, what is the pressure altitude? QNH is Less then ISA so add to airfield altitude = 3690ft

5) Given our answer in the previous question, do we immediately climb after receiving instructions from ATC or do we wait until 27nm before waypoint A before commencing climb? Why? Higher Flight Level = faster TAS, less fuel burn and anything else I can’t think off??

6) If our heading is 360 and there is a wind blowing from 090, can we expect to arrive at our next waypoint at the same time, or at a different time? Same time!

7) What is the load factor in a 45 degree AOB turn? 1.4g

8) How many G’s do you pull when you do a 60 degree steep turn? 2g

9) If we are flying at FL330 and we need to descend to FL260, with a GS of 480kts and descent rate of 500fpm, how long will our descent take? How far will we fly during the descent? 14 minutes and 112 NM

10) If the runway heading is 040 and you have a crosswind of 100/20, what is your crosswind component? Using the clock code (1 in 60) rule wind is 60 degrees off hence you take the full cross wind = 20 knots

11) Assume we are cruising at FL380 and we wish to descend to Kunming (elevation 5000'). The aircraft travels 3nm for every 1000ft of descent, and we wish to leave 15nm before arriving at Kunming for the aircraft to slow down. How far before Kunming is the TOD? 114 NM

12) Coming back to the previous question about descending into Kunming. If we use spoilers and it gives us a 50% decrease on the distance the aircraft travels per 1000ft descent, and it improves aircraft deceleration by 50%. What is the new TOD? 114/2 = 57 NM be careful!!

Happy landings...

FTP

suntorytimo 15th Jan 2011 21:18

6) If our heading is 360 and there is a wind blowing from 090, can we expect to arrive at our next waypoint at the same time, or at a different time? Same time!

How do you figure that? The question is a little confusing. Is the heading of 360 corrected for the wind coming from 090? Or is it, we have a heading/track of 360 with no wind, and then there is the wind factor? If so then a crosswind will decrease groundspeed and increase leg time.

nmcpilot 16th Jan 2011 22:17

Hey guys, just had a question for those who have done Stage 2/3, I have just arrived in Hong Kong and received my itinerary for the day along with a timetable and schedule for the days events and it has basically listed Group Ex, Interview, Mental Mathematics and Flight Planning Ex.

I am shocked as it doesn't include the Computer based aptitude test with joysticks and also the personality 186questions computer based questionnaire, neither piece of the letter I have has these written on them. Did those of you who have done it have these listed on the itinerary?? Or I wonder if they have stopped these tests..

SW1 16th Jan 2011 22:29

How long does it say the Maths test last? It should only be half an hour.The 186PF and aptitude tests were all done in the same room on the same computers. So I was in there for about 2 hours in total. The day starts at 08:30 and ends at about 16:30. So not sure if its been omitted.

You never know, they may have gotten rid of the aptitude stuff as they can test your flying ability during flight grading.

I was listed on my schedule by the way...

nmcpilot 16th Jan 2011 22:55

Hey SW1, basically the day goes as follows on the timetable :

0830 - 0845 - Welcome briefing
0845-0945 - group ex
1000-1100 interview
1115-1200 - mental mathematics
1445-1615 - flight planning

It also doesn't mention that I have the aptitude or personality test on the cover letter, just those tests. So don't know if these have been pulled, or if they only do the joystick tests now for the zero - low houred guys. But then I have known guys have to do both the wombat and joystick tests who are just as experienced as me so no idea. I wish they'd pulled the mental mathematics aswell, and group exercise.... and interview and just give me the job :8 lol

Only thing is it was mentioned on my email I received back in December and also there is a gap between 1200 and 1445 so obviously there is lunch but thought that would only be an hour so no idea :ugh:

SW1 16th Jan 2011 23:02

I did the WOMBAT in London and the Aptitude test and 186 PF in HK. I dont think its only for low hours guys as im rated on the A320 and have known guys with 2000+ hours who have still had to do it. They may have scrapped it. But that seems like a very long lunch break, you may as well go for a nap in your room:ok:Only joking.

I hope Cathay are not going to spring it on you on the day. Either way, its not hard and the personality test is just being yourself and answering honestly. Good luck with it all.

nmcpilot 16th Jan 2011 23:08

Yea I know 2 guys one an instructor and one a320 rated and both of them had to do it, I don't think they'd spring it on me but meh, thanks, ****ting myself :yuk:

SmitHK 17th Jan 2011 04:20

Date 2011 stage 1 interviews for Cathay Cadet programe
 
Hey Guys

I sent my Application form through at the beginning of the month. I was just wondering if any of you know relatively how long it takes them to decide if you have an interview or not? Because Im checking my email constantly for a reply and its killing me haha:ugh:

Also if anyone knows when the next date for 2011 Hong Kong Interviews?!

Thanks
Chantal x

burnable gomi 17th Jan 2011 04:36

futureTP:

Your answer for question 10 is incorrect.

nmcpilot 17th Jan 2011 07:15

Yes it seems it has all changed now, no joystick aptitude tests and it seems the 186 question personality test has been removed but they have 2 different maths tests one "mental maths" and the other "aviation maths" no idea of the difference...

suntorytimo 17th Jan 2011 08:00

Sounds like the schedule you guys have mentioned just now is typical of the stage 2 interview, did you not have the wombat test in the stage 1 interview?

CXGE90 17th Jan 2011 10:06

SmitHK
 
SmitHK:

Some people have waited up to a year for an interview. Typically around 6 months tho.

futureTP 17th Jan 2011 14:03

burnable!
 
How did you come to that conclusion its a rough estimate not exactly precise but not far off either... so whats the right answer????

adam692 18th Jan 2011 04:05

FYI - time to interview
 
There are a few people who are asking about how long it takes to interview. FYI, I did stage 1 in YVR last week and the other guy I meet there had waited 1 year, I waited 17 Months for stage 1. Don't hold your breath, but if it happens for you work hard and be prepared. If you don't prepare, I think the interview would be a very unpleasant 45mins for you. READ THIS THREAD! I studied lots and still didn't feel ready. If anyone else from YVR interviews has heard let me know by PM :ok:

burnable gomi 18th Jan 2011 09:03

futureTP:

Trigonometry. Crosswind component is the SIN of the angle off the runway multiplied by the wind strength. Headwind component is the COS of the angle off the runway multiplied by the wind strength.

In your example: SIN60 = 0.866 * 20kts = 17.3kts crosswind.

herrtob 18th Jan 2011 14:33

stage 2-3 on 18,19,20,21
 
hi guys, would anyone be able to update on the aviation math and mental math tests, as well as the Harrison?

on a side note, been preparing for so long but starting to feel uneasy about what they are going to ask in the interview for someone with no hours (me).

any inputs appreciated, and thank you guys for all the previous input.

good luck to fellow candidates for 18-21 jan!


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