Longhill,

Congra' to you too. All the best hope we will previl.

You can take the eye & color tests at any GP around your house cost around 30 bucks, save your money to go to the eye centre.

What time is your interview? Mine is in the noon 1415 hrs.

Cheers,

Thanks for the info, and best of luck to you too! :ok: Mine's at 0915hrs.

To all those joining SFC in the near future:

You do not need to bring that many things to SFC. Most of the stuff that you require will be provided by the College.

Your uniforms will be arranged within days of your arrival, and you should receive your uniforms within 2 weeks. Textbooks and essential stationary will be provided, like calculators, nav rulers.. etc. You may elect to bring in your own calculators if you so wish. Do bring paper to write on, for your own notes.

Living in Seletar, again, most amenities are already provided, like washing machines, TV, fridges... no air-con. You may bring in your own stuff, like laptops or other electrial/electronic appliances if you require them. Otherwise, everything is provided.

You may wish to bring in a bicycle (if you have one) for convenience.

For those with aviation headsets, bring them if you have it. You can use them on your flying training.

As for cooking, your meals are provided, and Jalan Kayu is near if you want supper at night. Hence, there is no need for instant noodles, but light snacks like chocolate and sweets are recommended. This will help you stay awake during class... Another recommendation is a thermos flask for storing coffee / tea / hot drinks. Again, essential to help you stay awake in class... especially after lunch...

Congratulations for those who have joined, and good luck to those going for your interviews.

hey thanks a lot for that info...really appreciate it..
regarding the OBS at lumut..will they be checkin all the stuff that we bring to ensure that all barred items are not brought in?? of course im not plannin on bringing any..hahaha wouldnt dare take that kinda risk..k then thanks!!

OBS Lumut
 

Max and all the others going to OBS Lumut:

You will be searched on arrival at Lumut. You will be required to surrender all your electrical and electronic appliances, which will include your PDAs, handphones, GPS if you have any... You will also be required to surrender your wallets and passports.

Smokers, you will have to surrender your cigarettes. Any food will also be confiscated. So, no chocolates, sweets, instant noodles, canned food... etc.

As mentioned in the briefing package, most items will be provided at Lumut, but you may elect to bring some additional items such as candles, solid fuel, lighters, insect repellent(s), mosquito coils, hydration packs (Camel bags are good), jungle hat (essential if you dun wan your face to be burnt), sun block, hunting / diving knives, disposable water-proof camera, booties... think that's about the stuff you need. Again, most of these items are optional.

Enjoy your time there. Minimal running required, but the expeditions are quite demanding. Leeches will be a HUGE problem. Avoid them if you can, and ALWAYS check when you can. You'll never know where they may end up. :)

You may want to bring some money over to purchase souvenirs and food en-route to and from the airport. My course ended up at KLIA for a well-deserved beer while waiting for the flight back to Singapore.

Enjoy yourselves at Lumut!

Don't forget to bring hammocks for the solo camp... and fer chrissakes please remember to tie up your cupboards before you head out on expeditions.

Suffer and have fun and bond, people.. it will make seletar so much better

Hello there brothers,

Congratulations to all who got their favourable reply for Nov OBS intake.

Im eagerly awaiting mine:D

Just curious whether there will be any test/assessment for those undergoing OBS training?

Hi,

To course 116, when are u guys leaving for OBS lumut?

To Saints,

Nope. Just complete the 21 days of OBS n get that certificate. :)

Limpeh, u from which cos huh??

OBS Lumut Part II
 

The OBS programme has no specific "tests" or "assessments", rather, it is a programme to challenge YOURSELF. Depending what you bring to OBS (I dun mean literally...) you will inevitably get different results when you leave.

I learnt a lot about myself, and what I want to get out of the programme. Again, it is about challenging yourself. It is not the expeditions, or the climbing or the activities that matter. So, go with an open mind. You'll never know what you'll learn out of it. Once again, you should never stop learning. It'll make you a dead pilot.

You guys will probably not see me in WSSL anytime soon, though I may drop by once in a while to see my friends. I'm not very keen on identifying myself here, but suffice to say that I am currently flying on the B777 fleet.

If you've got any questions, I'll try to answer them as well as I can, remember, I was once a cadet like you guys, so I know what you're going through.

Cheers!

Hi anyone went for the 1st interview on the 17 of Nov thurs, if you got any replies from SIA through email please kindly inform the others here so that we know that SIA has make some actions.

Thanks & Regards,

Hi trance,

I went for my interview on 17 Nov, and I juz received email this morning asking me to go for 2nd round on 22 and 23 Nov. Really didn't expect such a fast response. :D

Hope you received yours too. ;)

Hey Longhill,

Congrats dude! Anyone that went for the 18 Nov Friday, received any replies?

Keeping updates.......seems too quiet this thread these days...

VAMP

Hi Vamp,

Did you also went for the first interview on 18 Nov?

You are still waiting for the replies? Keep all brothers posted here if you have.

It since that longhill got his replies faster than us.

Longhill how it goes for your sec SIT test ?

hey Trance,

Good to hear another of one of us is waiting. Did you go on the 17th? what did they ask you? I went on the 18th. Anyone else did and got any response?

Thought the interview went ok, crossing my fingers now. All the best to the rest of us.

Cheers,

Vamp

Vamp, lets just pray and wait.

Good luck to all other people here.

Hi guys,

Good luck to those going for their 2nd interviews. Guess what? I've cleared mine, and will be going for medical tomorrow!

For those who attended the 1st interviews (esp the 17 and 18 Nov) and are still waiting for news, dun lose hope. For my 2nd interview, there were 10 of us (8 from 17 Nov AM session, 1 from 17 Nov PM session, 1 had his 1st interview 2 months ago!). So you see, you can still be called up for 2nd interview as long as you have not received any rejection email.

The SIT tests were alright. Think they want to see you participate actively in group work/discussion, and are able to both lead and cooperate with others as a team.

Best of luck to all aspiring pilots!

Hi longhill,

Thanks for the information appreciated that. I hope we people out there who are still waiting for the pending results will get what they want soon.

All the best to you dude.

Regards,

Congrats Longhill,

Good to hear to make the cut. Hey trance, that could possibly mean that none of the 18 Nov batch got called up or went for 2nd inteview yet. So there's still hope for us.....hehe

VAMP

Yup, pray hard for the replies from them. Hope you will get yours soon.

I got mine this morning I am not selected for the second interview.:(

All the best to all brothers here.

Regards,

Hey Trance,

Really sorry to hear that. Are you going to try again?

Is there anyone else here besides who is still waiting and praying?

VAMP

Hi all ....
Does anyone know how long after can we reapply again after being rejected for the first interview ?

Thanks

Hey hrc,

Common understanding is usually six months. I reapplied after three months, and continue to do so every two weeks, but they only replied after the six months interval. Then again, there are some who got called up again less than that.

Did you went for 1st interview recently?

VAMP

Hi Vamp...
Yeah... went for my first interview on the 17th of Nov but got mine rejection letter this morning. Guess i'll have to try again ....
Cheers

VAMP,

Good luck to you hope you will get yr wish soon.

For sure i will reapply again after 6 months. The spirit in me will never die off unless I reach 32 which is the cut off age.

Regards,

Hey guys,

Sorry to hear abt yr results. If flying is yr passion don't give up yet. I still haven't got any newst, so hopefully no news is good news. Heard that they've got 2nd interviews lined up for 29 and 30th Nov. Anyone out there who lucky enough to make to these dates, all the best.(and who may they be???)

And those who still waiting like me, don't stop chanting. It seems pretty quiet this thread nowadays, did the bulk of the wannabes migrated to somewhere else? or are they just playing audience...hmmm

Come on guys, it's comforting when we know others are in the same boat, enduring the wait and aniticipation...


VAMP

p.s. let me know if there is another commonplace ................

Dear all...

Thanks for all the encouragements and tips given out on this thread. Really appreciate it. Wish I could have "stumbled"onto this forum earlier though.

Well, second attempt for me at the first interview on the 17th...but alas..the result of the interview arrived about 2 mornings ago and it aint good. :(

After reality hits and painfully sinks its way through me, I am not too sure if I would want to have another go at it any more. Such setbacks are rather hard to take especially when you think this is THE career that you are destined for.

At that moment, many thoughts race past me....Is it really that I sucked in the interview or am I just not cut out to be a pilot? I mean, when u don't suceed in your first interview, you know something must have screwed up or you are basically not prepared. However, getting rejected at your 2nd attempt's got to mean something doesnt it? Maybe I shouldn't have started off saying " oh..i wanted to be a pilot when I was young.." when you know it's the dead truth...haha. Or maybe its SIA's way of telling you "..for the second time my friend, you are not suitable for this job.." *sigh*

Oh well, from the previous post from vamp, I understand its 6 mths before sia reconsiders you for the first interview again? It's gonna be a looong 6 mths wait for me ...but hell, I waited about 2 years after my first interview to re-apply again...so why not 6 months?

Alright, enough of my rubbish. All I can say is; all the best to those who were selected, and keep those hopes up high to those that are waiting. Finally to those who tried and not suceed, don't give up! (I wish I could say that to myself though...haha)

And please...if another "commonplace" exists...do show me the way...;)

Take care one and all!

Gonzales
 

SIA are not telling you that you are not suitable to become a pilot just that, at the moment, you don't fit their mould.

Now that you have had two goes you probably have a gut feeling of where your weak points are and you now have six months to work on them! Are you a Singaporean and over 26? Are you a Malaysian and have they recruited their quota for now?
Remember the majority of SIA cadets don't start training until they have completed their tertiary education and their National Service.

Always tough getting a "Thanks, but No Thanks" letter, now put it behind you, work on your shortcomings and better luck next time!:ok:

Gonzalas,

I agreed with BlueEagle, IMHO there are many ways of moving forward, however there is only one way of standing still. In all our living years, we made some mistakes, we received certain rejections. We can't whine at it all the time, nor even in the future. Pick yourself up and move forward, learn from your mistakes. Knowledge is only useful and critical, when you have a tough decison to make.

Good things don't come easily my friend. Go for it!

WhiteOak

Thks guys for all the encouragement given here! Guess I have to take this positively if I really want to be a pilot ya?

Blue eagle : Am above 26 and below 32. A true blue Sgp here too. I am basically a "NO" to all the questions on the last page of the application form. (less the "Have you applied for any other position in SIA" of course.) Completed NS and tertiary edu, in fact, have been working for some time...


White oak : Thanks for your encouragement! Very soon I am gonna turn this forum into a "pilot rejects anonymous" hahaha....(my apologies..lame joke)

BUT seriously...thanks again whiteoak and blue eagle! BTW, are you guys by any chance a FO or SO? B777 or A340 flyers? Or the B747?

Hi,

From your post, at least you do sound like you have done some research on SIA's fleets... and that is a good thing. There are many other interviewees who have absolutely no idea what is the physical difference between a 777 and a 747.

Even so, there are some fellow pilots that I know who lack "passion" in the job. Some are in it for the money, sadly... but hey, there's all sorts of people everywhere.

Dun be disheartened about your lack of success for the interview. This goes out to the rest of the "rejectees" too. There is a pilot I know who went for the first interview SEVEN (7) times, and now, he is a Captain. So, try again.

Good luck for your next interview!

Hey chaps, it's great seeing the determination in some of you...for those who are disheartened, pls pick yrself up. :o)

Think abt it, it's only the 1st round...u can try for it as many times as u want to (though there was some rumour going that they'll only give each chap 2 tries now)

I applied for the position round Jun, got called for 1st round a week later and then the 2nd round another week later...frankly, I was interested in Aviation and have been playing the microsoft flight simulator for a long time...gave it a long thought and decided to embark on this career...in fact, was pretty convinced myself that the interview would be a breeze...read a couple of airline interview books as well and prep a lot of notes...even went to the extent of meeting up with no. of FO friends and even a CAPT just to find out more...

BUT I DID NOT GET THROUGH THE 2ND ROUND.

Honestly, I felt really bad coz this is what I really wanna do....fly...but was not given the opportunity becoz the interviewers think I might not be suitable for the job. (especially so becoz was told that once u flung the 2nd round, it's the end of the road) Either I did not manage to convince them of my passion or they saw some other things lacking in me...

Nonetheless, I'm not giving up and neither should u chaps! Have done some ground check and there exists some pilots in SIA who have reattempted the 2nd round and passed...amazing but true.

So I'm bidding my time, do a deeper reflection on what went wrong and perhaps give it a long shot after I've sorted myself out.

For the 1st interview, I think the CAPT and the HR chap are just ticking checklist of sorts....my experience was that they were pretty systematic in the asking of questions and honesty is important. Try substantiating watever u say with examples. ie, when they ask if you are afraid of heights and u've done airborne jumps, indicate so. When they ask if you'r claustrophobic, tell them if you'r working on a ship or confined quarters. Plus read up on SIA fleet information and basic technical stuffs on flying. Think that shld suffice....they won't go too deep into details...just an indication of interest to fly and display of some sort of leadership.

In life, there are the gifted ones and the dilligent ones. Both shall be successful so long as they are passionate abt what they do :o)

hi all, I just received email from SIA inviting me for course starting 6 Jan, whoever else is in do post here as well. Cheers!

hey jagr , i'm in too.. just received the email from sia

6 Jan 2006 intake
----------------------------
1) jagr
2) terryble
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)

Anyone else out there joining pls add on the list... :ok:

bros here.. really worried about meeting the Cadet pilot requirements.. hope to hear some advice from you on my qualities.

Age: 28+
Qualification: Engineering Diploma (singapore), Non-engineering 2nd upper honours degree (Australia)
Results: O'level (english D7, math B3, Science A2, Chinese B3, literature C5, Technical B3) Degree (6 higher distinctions, 10 distinctions, 3 credits)
Ns rank: Army Officer
current employer: CAAS
Height: 1.65m - 1.70m
Eyesight: Perfect after lasik

What's my chance of getting called up for the interview... welcome any comments.

Hey Guys,

Phew, after a gruelling 1 week plus of waiting, received an email from SIA for 2nd Interview on the 6 Dec 2005. Wow!

Anyone else going for the same date?
Any word of advice from the veterans........

CHeers

VAMP

I'm quite disappointed that some of my friends who are sia cadets can't even tell the difference between the boeing 737, 757 and 767.... and to think that there are many out there who have the true passion for flying...are not selected. :(

hydrop...

you seem to question the passion of the current batches of cadet... did you fail your interview?

VAMP,

IMHO, just be yourself. You can try to "pretend" to be someone else and clear the interview, but somewhere down the line, things will catch up with you.

Remember, the panel are seasoned pilots. They have seen hundreds and hundreds of applicants and CAPT M has seen batches and batches of pilots from interview till they pass out into the fleet and he still "sees" them. Like it or not, he knows what he wants and if he sees through your pretense, that's integrity problem and you are history.

But there is still some prep that can be done. Read up on the facts and figures. Its unforgivable if you don't know a 777 from a 747. They look for attitude and passion. Knowing all the answers is not important. Its the spirit to learn that they want.

Just to share, my interview had a guy from MFA who I believed "aced" the interview. He was able to answer highly technical questions that I know nuts about. Turbines, diesel, flight physics....blah blah blah. Didn't make it.

Another guy, couldn't remember who his YFC instructors were, but admitted it gracefully. Askedl why the Piper has 2 magnetoes and how they are wired. Attempted with what he knew, then siad " that's all I can remember sir, I should not try to bull you." But he made it. Training with 114 now.

Yet another one, was asked about diesels engines cos he works in car sales. Answered ok, but CAPT M went on to ask about the compression ratio....Of course he freaked out. Heard CAPT M shake his head and said "pity, such fundamentals".....

But he held his head high, said he will go read up. now with 115.

All the best in your interview. Rest well before the first day.

JERRY MAGUIRE,

I am also waiting for my current bond to end. I like your last statement : Some born, some toil. But both succeed. Hope we will be batch mates someday.
:ok:

During my interview, Cpt M said that many interviewees have told him that their dream plane to fly is A380. He asked me if I could tell him what I would like to fly besides that.

After some thought, I told him the truth that the A380 is what I thought I would like to fly. No harm, rather than lying that I dream to fly something else and get caught with his next question I stuck to what I wanted. I said I was curious about the plane and guess he liked the answer.

117er reporting in.

Hi Deepsea,

Thank you so much for your advice. There is much truth in what you had said. Initially, when I went for my very first interview, it was like all prepped up and such, yet I didn't make the cut. This time round I made the ultimate decision to be just myself and carried with me the prepared knowledge of the fundamental technicalilties and the truth about me. At the end of the day, if it is meant to be, it is meant to be and if it's not, life must go on. After reading much into this forum, my own summation would be "To each his own", there is no define standard citeria that they are looking for....preparing helps but doesn't confirm.... Like they said "No two take offs and landings are the same"......so some had it easy, others had it the hard way. But don't give up trying or be complacent, as you'll never know when it'll come and how it does. And if it does, you might as well be prepared for it....:ok:

I wish all the best to the rest of us........