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Old 18th Aug 2010, 21:03
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Doctor Joins CX through CPP

For those of you who can read Chinese (or you can us Google Translate), this article was on the Yahoo HK page about a 30 year old doctor joining the CPP.

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Tells us we should follow our dreams and do what you believe in!
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Old 18th Aug 2010, 23:18
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404Titan/NoseGear

Thanks for the input and duly noted ... the figures paint a very bleak picture of life in HK as a fresh CX SO ...

Faced with a job but no real money, or paying for your own training in Europe (and possibly amassing a sizeable debt in the process, with no guarantee of a job and the possibility of having to pay for a TR on top of the $100k you've just borrowed)- what would you do?

Maybe I should just give up and become a builder
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Old 19th Aug 2010, 00:47
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U.S. Pilots Live with Food Stamp

To those whom who are concerned about the pay:

Watch this video and you will realize Cathay pay much better than pilots in the U.S., not to mention this program also provides all training with housing and food.


YouTube - Michael Moore's 'Capitalism: A Love Story' - Pilots on Food Stamps


Dream or Money? Make your choice and stop complaining.
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Old 19th Aug 2010, 02:01
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Seems like there is a small clique try to "warn" future applicants in a very ignorant way i.e 404Titan. I am sure they are just over exaggerating about the situation...these are the pilots that expect to become a millionaire by flying huh?

In some aspiring pilots circumstances the pay you get might be better in your home country however you wont enjoy it with school debt to be paid from that "better" salary.

I say if these people want to do it let them do it, you burn to learn and get burnt being a qualified pilot in the end.

My view from reading thus far. Good luck to those granted interviews.
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Old 19th Aug 2010, 02:49
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Thumbs down Ronny.....

Seems like there is a small clique try to "warn" future applicants in a very ignorant way i.e 404Titan. I am sure they are just over exaggerating about the situation...these are the pilots that expect to become a millionaire by flying huh?


It IS worse than I thought..... I think Ronny has hit on the answer though, just put on your rose colored glasses and stick your head in the sand

There is no clique, just some concerned, current, CX pilots trying to give you cold hard facts. If you find our "warnings" ignorant, tough, they are the facts, weather you like it or not. I have been here 7 years now, living and working IN Hong Kong, so I think I have a pretty good handle on the cost of living. If it helps you by being "sure we are just over exaggerating", then get on the internet and do some research

And your last bit about becoming millionaires is just plain stupid.

If you don't want the facts, then don't ask. And when you are struggling, don't bitch to me or anyone else, you know what you are getting yourself into.
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Old 19th Aug 2010, 05:11
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thanks jetset

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You tend to be rostered up to 84 credit hours (roughly translates to 84 block hours for an SO). So that translates into 3 longhaul patterns. There are shorter and longer patterns however and also reserve blocks of 6 days.



How does the reserve work?

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Old 19th Aug 2010, 06:07
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I don't know what to say... but really, CX is a good way out :x and you guys should really appreciate it if you have an interview.

The hard road, is very hard -_-;
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fleet rumour

It must be rumour season. Apparently CX are considering the larger versions of the Airbus A350 and Boeing 787, but definitely have held off the A380... any thoughts on this?
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Old 19th Aug 2010, 13:52
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Rumour are you sure... ?

Tony Tyler has confirmed 2 weeks ago a firm order for A350-900...which suppose no 787 for CX: here
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Old 19th Aug 2010, 16:10
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In this thread:

Lots of broken English

Worries about using the food stamp programme whilst working up the experience ladder

Raising a virtual glass (cup) to 'free housing and food' whilst in training

Admonishing of current employees for 'wanting to become millionaires'

Looking to Michael Moore for information regarding pilot employment

This must be an alternate universe I've stumbled into
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Old 19th Aug 2010, 22:57
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Advanced Flight Grading

Hey guys I was just wondering what the typical pass rate is for people in the Advanced Flight Grading course. Also, I was wondering what to expect upon arrival to Adelaide.

I have heard that you fly the Grob for a few flights and then do instrument work in a Turbrprop sim. I am from America and do not have any experience with NDB's since most of them have become decommissioned. Do they use NDB's in the sim and if so would it be acceptable to tell them you don't have any experience with them even though you are in the Advanced course?

Any and all information is much appreciated!
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Old 20th Aug 2010, 06:44
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Ispahan

wow looks like 30 orders of the A350-900... good research
as for the 787 that was just a rumour i'm guessing.
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Old 21st Aug 2010, 10:22
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Yes they STILL use NDBs in Australia and it is possible that you will be introduced to some basic NDB tracking for Advanced Grading. However, the process of flight grading is designed to assess a candidates rate of learning and retention so I think it is acceptable to tell them that you have no NDB experience.

With advanced grading, I think they expect more from you for the flying portion but as for sim work I know people who did advanced grading with zero instrument hours.
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Old 22nd Aug 2010, 07:03
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Don't worry about NDB tracking. The RMI in the sim makes it incredibly easy. If you are worried then fire up flight simulator and track an NDB inbound. That is about all you will be expected to do with it.
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Old 22nd Aug 2010, 09:45
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Advanced Flight Grading

Guys, as far as I know, the IFR sessions for advanced grading are done in a B200 simulator. If you don't have prior CSU or multi-engine experience, do they expect you to pick up these skills on top of demonstrating your ability to do IFR flying?
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Old 22nd Aug 2010, 15:39
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Thanks for the info guys!
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What is the medical requirement for the cadet programme for those who have been through it. I'm particularly interested to hear about eye testing both sight and colour blindness. How do they test for both, resolution charts and Ishihara plates ? How often are you tested below 40, below 50 & below 60 years of age ??

Thanks.
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Old 25th Aug 2010, 08:11
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Hi SPEEDI,

Could you please tell me when did you apply for the Cadet Pilot Program? I did few months back and havent heard from them.
Also could you give me the email address you recieved the email from?

cheers!
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Old 25th Aug 2010, 08:17
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Hey SPEEDI

I had also appllied to Cathay about Cadet Prog. but havent heard from them.
Cud u tell me when did u apply? Also cud u giv me email address from where u recieved an email.
I put India as first choice of Intrvw. cud that be the reason?

Does anyone know how to chnage that ?

cheers!
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Old 25th Aug 2010, 10:05
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Hi all

Have been following this thread with interest, and, as someone about to embark on professional flight training here in the UK, I decided to apply for the CX CPP.

I have been fortunate enough to land an interview (Stage 1) quite soon.

However, a couple of things about this CPP are of concern to me.

In the first instance let me just say I don't wish to come across as arrogant in any way, shape or form.

It is certainly surprising to see an airline offering to pay for all of a cadet's training costs from zero to fATPL - something that is non-existent in the UK.

On the other hand, as a 'foreigner' with no ties to HK at all, I am concerned about the following.

1) The cost of living in HK and especially the rent. I've spoken to a couple of friends from Uni who now live in HK working for int'l companies. They all get an allowance for rent. When I quoted the CX SO salary and compared it to their average expenditure (conservative), I concluded that I would probably only just break even after all deductions.

2) How experience/hours are logged once an SO graduates and begins to fly the line.

Is it true that whilst an SO, no P2 time is logged whatsoever? I've seen references to P2X time .... what exactly is this, and who else apart from CX recognises this?

I hope I don't come across as ungrateful in any way, but I think it's prudent to ask these questions before I waste CX's time (or they waste mine ....)

At the end of the day, we all have to take risks in life, but it's better to take a calculated risk .... thanks guys.
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