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Old 31st Mar 2011, 23:20
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chrisaviator

I'm in your shoes as well, but I have to say I question one thing: How can we 'new' pilots with a couple/few hundred hours expect to truly know how to fly and fly well after 4 years as basically a cruise pilot (especially when/if the sh*t hits the fan)? Sure, a sim every so often and watching pilots do the fun stuff from the back seat will help, but that is a FAR CRY from hands-on experience for a 4 year period. It would seem if one goes from a regional FO to a long-haul SO, at least one has gained plenty of first hand experience to draw on when/if needed before spending 4 years in the backseat. Thoughts?
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Old 1st Apr 2011, 01:30
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Simple answer, the seniority list, while you're away gaining valuable experience the other guy is working his way up the list and will forever be senior to you.
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Old 1st Apr 2011, 03:24
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"Final Interview" In 2 Weeks

I've seen a lot of info. about the initial interview on this thread, who has the gouge for the final interview?

Specifically these parts:

- Interview
- Technical Quiz
- Aviation Mathematics Test
- Group Exercise

Background: I'm a CRJ7 FO with just under 3,000 hours total time, 2,500 of it at my current job.

Feel free to PM me, any information about the interview would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 1st Apr 2011, 08:33
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Try 6-10 years as SO. Apparently, there is a new SO rating and course in the making to support the future crewing requirements of 2 SOs on longhaul flights. Word on the street is that the new SO rating will be not time limited as the P2X rating and SO responsibilities will be reduced so a new shorter course for ab-inito cadets with no flight experience can be introduced to get bums in the seats.
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Old 1st Apr 2011, 13:33
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SO responsibilities will be reduced so a new shorter course for ab-inito cadets with no flight experience can be introduced to get bums in the seats.
Reduced to what? Just turning up?

SO's do virtually nothing now anyway except eat the sandwiches.
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Old 1st Apr 2011, 13:34
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Probably we can try CX, SIA and Jetstar? Plus ethihad and emirates when they have vacancy.. Haha!
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Old 1st Apr 2011, 18:14
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Assuming the other guy passes his check for JFO
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Old 2nd Apr 2011, 13:38
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pathetic, sad. aviation 1-oh-1
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Old 2nd Apr 2011, 17:16
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Chrisaviator

For those of you who feel that the conditions are not good enough, you are right, but please do not judge us as we all need to start somewhere, even if it means that we need to take one for the team now and again.

I firmly believe that we need to start at the bottom, work hard, take the hits and be prepared to compromise in order to get on in aviation these days seeing as low hours FO/SO jobs are few and far between.
There were no cadet schemes when I started my career. I did not even consider trying to get a job in an airline with 250 hours. You try to justify taking this huge reduction in terms and conditions because its just so hard to become a pilot, how else can you become an airline pilot

Amazingly most of the current pilots working for CX managed to do it and I would expect that less than 3% started with an airline straight out of flight school. I am not saying the cadet scheme is a bad thing for someone with no experience, if it was around when i started i would have applied but please don't say there is just no other way to become an airline pilot as justification for reducing the terms and conditions at the airline that was once the one that every professional pilot aspired to join.
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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 02:48
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Well said SloppyJoe.
Some people will never get it though!!!!
 
Old 3rd Apr 2011, 03:57
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Save now, pay for the rest of your career!!!!
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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 07:33
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CX rosters and JFO checks

after reading several threads on the pilot rosters of other airlines, it seems low terms and conditions could be the least of a pilots worries these days. i know previous posts have outlined some topics within rosters, like the bidding system etc.

but i just want to know from CX SOs/FOs/Cpts, are your rosters reasonable? do they push the limits with duty time etc? (even if just barely legal), are the rosters highly fatiguing?, how do you feel about them? (in terms of workload, time off etc)

and one more topic (hopefully not a silly one), but how hard is the check for becoming JFO?, what is involved in the check?, and how do they asses/grade the check? (a pass mark?, fail one thing and you fail everything?)

thanks in advance if anyone could answer
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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 10:21
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JKI booklet typo

So on reading the JKI booklet I noticed it states that turbine engines combust at a constant volume... Yet researching various different books and to my own knowledge I'm pretty sure it occurs at a near constant pressure, opposed to that of the piston/reciprocating engine which occurs at a constant volume.

Theories?
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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 12:47
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Theory?

Do as I did and many others... get, read, learn Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 02:13
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how hard is the check for becoming JFO?
why are you concerned with a JFO upgrade? get the job first....
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 03:25
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how long does

it take to here back from your stage one interview? From what I have read it says two weeks but does that mean that they will definitely call you within two weeks or could it take longer? The wait is killing me.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 03:48
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Generally, no news is good news. If you aren't successful they are normally pretty quick to inform you. Just be patient
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 05:57
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Well that makes me feel better, its only been a week though? Should I expect a phone call? Even if im in the us?
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 06:45
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i don't want to throw any punches but nobody said anything about being concerned. i was just curious because apparently if one was to fail the upgrade they wouldn't keep "the job" would they
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 07:40
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most people pass the JFO upgrade.
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