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Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
6th Jun 2014, 05:33
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

The program goes on as per normal, the cadets...

The program goes on as per normal, the cadets will graduate and as standard protocol applies:

"Upon successful completion of the Jetstar Australia Pilot Cadet Program, you will be offered with...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
16th Apr 2014, 06:46
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

It's a shame that Universities resort to spivvy...

It's a shame that Universities resort to spivvy advertising, as in past years , and I am sure it is still true of most faculties at most Unis you will get a reasonably accurate appraisal of the...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
16th Apr 2014, 04:35
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Cadets to $100K If the other thread is true...

Cadets to $100K

If the other thread is true it looks like the Junior FO at Jetstar will rise to a base of at least $80K , allow some overtime/allowances this puts you comfortably over $100K
...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
11th Apr 2014, 07:04
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Well it is a free country and people can do what...

Well it is a free country and people can do what they please.

The point is with CPLs/Av degrees etc, many people find themselves in their early twenties with a CPL/IR/Av Degree and a six figure...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
11th Apr 2014, 05:08
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

I think you will find that there were no QF...

I think you will find that there were no QF cadets post 2008 , in terms of commencing on the program from 2009 onwards.

Or if there were any QF classes commencing post 2008 , really just "token"...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
11th Apr 2014, 03:25
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Bing is back with his smarty pants mouth. ...

Bing is back with his smarty pants mouth.

You claim to hold a bachelors and masters degrees, be 33 years old , and fly a 737 for either Virgin or Qantas, having progressed there after five years...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
9th Apr 2014, 04:35
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Well Bing wanted to meet up, very quick to send a...

Well Bing wanted to meet up, very quick to send a PM was Bing

I am happy to do that but I think Bing does good talk , quite a smart mouth really, but not so good on the delivery side of the...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
9th Apr 2014, 03:59
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Wow Bing you were one of the "special" people the...

Wow Bing you were one of the "special" people the single figure % who got to an jet job (FO) in five years from GA.

Sure you did , I believe you , we all believe you

And now you will leave a...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
9th Apr 2014, 02:47
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

The vast majority of GA careers have long periods...

The vast majority of GA careers have long periods in the "slave" system at flying schools , where you man the reception full time, only get paid for flying hours - how wonderful providing free labor...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
9th Apr 2014, 00:31
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

$70K for ATPL/CPL/IR don't think so - would say...

$70K for ATPL/CPL/IR don't think so - would say at least $100K , maybe $85K if you really want to scrimp.

Training for Jetstar Cadetship 1.5 years , lucky to complete all of above in much less I...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
8th Apr 2014, 07:26
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Scare Factor : No guarantee of a job The...

Scare Factor : No guarantee of a job

The reality:


"Upon successful completion of the Jetstar Australia Pilot Cadet Program, you will be offered with a place in the conditional employee...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
2nd Apr 2014, 09:12
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

So you are saying that Jetstar have defined what...

So you are saying that Jetstar have defined what their employment numbers for September 2015 , sure they have.

I doubt this is true.

But if it is the bad news is for GA/Regional people as the...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
1st Apr 2014, 03:28
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Well everybody is entitle to their opinion. ...

Well everybody is entitle to their opinion.

But whether you think cadets do or don't belong as Jet FOs is not relevant. Jetstar think they do, and have acted on that to have cadets as FOs , and it...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
31st Mar 2014, 07:51
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

The big bad company betraying people, oh aren't...

The big bad company betraying people, oh aren't they so horrible , the big bad Qantas company.

No basis in reality my friend , they have not been told that.

All who complete get a job ,...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
31st Mar 2014, 01:56
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

The only people they have said "no" to are direct...

The only people they have said "no" to are direct entry's from GA/Regional, sorry boys it's all over.

Just another variation of the scare campaign -- "no guaranteed job"

QF group have a very...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
27th Mar 2014, 04:04
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

"In the homeland of Aviation the USA, pilots for...

"In the homeland of Aviation the USA, pilots for the Major Airlines in majority come from the Regional/GA sector and have an average of 4000 hours flight time when they join a major airline. Unlike...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
27th Mar 2014, 03:18
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

The standard cadet scare campaign runs like this;...

The standard cadet scare campaign runs like this;



There is no guarantee of employment - 90% plus are employed
You will not get an ATPL - no command hours - they are approved for all sorts...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
18th Mar 2014, 08:11
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

You will find that these programs aren't a money...

You will find that these programs aren't a money making scheme or conspiracy at all, the Jetstar program charges exactly the same as the non-Jetstar Swinburne students.

1. Science, Engineering...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
17th Mar 2014, 03:17
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Uni's , the ADF see poor school grades as either...

Uni's , the ADF see poor school grades as either a lack of ability or laziness make no mistake. Nobody wants lazy people who at times choose not to give their best on their books. The top Unis only...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
14th Mar 2014, 06:47
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Why do you equate someone having a different...

Why do you equate someone having a different viewpoint to you as being bitter - it is just someone having a different viewpoint

They get higher Cal candidates applying for the cadetship higher...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
14th Mar 2014, 06:05
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Nice scare campaign with the Jetstar cadets...

Nice scare campaign with the Jetstar cadets getting moved on etc. The fact is that 95% of those who started the course have moved into full time employ with Jetstar. Just the same rate achieved in BA...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
13th Mar 2014, 03:37
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Seeing conspiracies again brother Quite...

Seeing conspiracies again brother

Quite simply they didn't want to hire a lot of the self paid CPLs that they took in the 06/10 period

If you attach a job outcome you will get a much wider...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
13th Mar 2014, 03:07
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Not everyone actually wants to be an airline...

Not everyone actually wants to be an airline pilot my friend

Having said that the jealousy on these forums towards the various airline cadetships is really quite hysterical

Be an outback...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
13th Mar 2014, 02:40
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Skydiving - wow that must have been fun spending...

Skydiving - wow that must have been fun spending your weekends - unpaid , dragging sweaty smelly skydivers around.

Yes there are spectacular parts of the outback, but when you don't have a two...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
13th Mar 2014, 00:09
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Well they always have been like winning lotto,...

Well they always have been like winning lotto, that is what the staff at BAe used to remind their QF cadets of when they ran the program back in the 90s. Also BTW the QF program was also entirely...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
12th Mar 2014, 00:27
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

The training providers have no say in how many...

The training providers have no say in how many get selected - Jetstar tells them

For example July 2013 - four commence , March 2014 11 commence at Oxford.

But be very very careful, it is all a...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
11th Mar 2014, 09:09
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Sure you fly for Jetstar ! , and sure the CEO...

Sure you fly for Jetstar ! , and sure the CEO briefs junior FOs , and sure you have all this top secret information.

Actually don't know they took anyone with over 1000 hours on the Jetstar...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
8th Mar 2014, 01:16
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Just another scare I think Mac - the old cry "you...

Just another scare I think Mac - the old cry "you will never get a job"

Think of it this way



80 plus former cadets are now flying A320s with Jetstar
Jetstar unlike Virgin still actually...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
6th Mar 2014, 04:35
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Qantas never offered a job guarantee either ,...

Qantas never offered a job guarantee either , they wanted to see performance.

Over 80 Junior First Officers in Jetstar now , understand the transition rate from cadetship to employment is similar...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
20th Sep 2013, 08:13
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Open to Australian citizens , Australian...

Open to Australian citizens , Australian Permanent Residents, New Zealand Citizens and New Zealand Permanent Residents
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
30th Jun 2013, 05:55
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

It was AFAP industrial officer Simon Lutton who...

It was AFAP industrial officer Simon Lutton who did the deal with Jetstar , he has been at AFAP for a long time and can be contacted on 03 9928 5737. AFAP will also confirm that the company loan for...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
30th Jun 2013, 04:54
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

I am not interested in a long debate about the...

I am not interested in a long debate about the junior FO rates , but the fact is that the cadets are only on them for a maximum of two years. That can be confirmed by your own pilot union or the...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
29th Jun 2013, 07:10
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

All the various conspiracy theories about Jetstar...

All the various conspiracy theories about Jetstar making money are simply incorrect. In fact the program costs the company money as they get more line training, mentored program over 18 months, and...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
29th Jun 2013, 05:23
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

It is not written in a 2008 document because the...

It is not written in a 2008 document because the cadet program did not start until 2010.

But clearly it would be written down somewhere, just call S Lutton from the AFAP if you want it in writing...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
27th Jun 2013, 05:41
Replies: 467
Views: 152,106
Posted By Flyboat North

Not true : you move to the standard FO tables...

Not true : you move to the standard FO tables after you achieve an ATPL or two years whichever comes first.

So the maximum amount of time as a Junior FO is two years, and then you move to...
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