MERGED: Jetstar Pilot Cadet Program
Flyboat North: The only people they have said "no" to are direct entry's from GA/Regional, sorry boys it's all over.
It's cadets that have graduated from the CTC Jetstar cadet programme that have been told, NO WORK FOR YOU AT JETSTAR!!!!!!!!!!
It's not GA/Regional guys that have been told NO.
It might pay to check your facts before you make yourself look stupid, or is that look even more stupid?
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The big bad company betraying people, oh aren't they so horrible , the big bad Qantas company.
No basis in reality my friend , they have not been told that.
All who complete get a job , sometimes with a wait as Jetstar want them to do the 320 endorsement just before line training.
Remember the QF cadets of the 90s , no jobs available as recession commenced , all who graduated were first in when SO hiring did commence. If times turn bad , same will occur.
They are expanding not contracting , 24 commenced this month.
No GA for Jetstar
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No basis in reality my friend , they have not been told that.
All who complete get a job , sometimes with a wait as Jetstar want them to do the 320 endorsement just before line training.
Remember the QF cadets of the 90s , no jobs available as recession commenced , all who graduated were first in when SO hiring did commence. If times turn bad , same will occur.
They are expanding not contracting , 24 commenced this month.
No GA for Jetstar
Go Direct to the Jet - Go Cadet
So why is the mother of a cadet contacting anyone she can think of that might be able help, saying no job for her Jetstar cadet son and asking help get No. 1 son a job
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Bit of misinformation here.
Latest batch told June start date.
Things have slowed, no direct entry for the year. That could change if they have to match capacity to maintain the cherished 65% line in the sand.
Nothing stopping the cadets getting a charter job while they wait it out.
Latest batch told June start date.
Things have slowed, no direct entry for the year. That could change if they have to match capacity to maintain the cherished 65% line in the sand.
Nothing stopping the cadets getting a charter job while they wait it out.
Nothing stopping the cadets getting a charter job while they wait it out.
This would require using some initiative, washing the plane as well as flying it and making command decisions without a captain babysitting you in the right hand seat. Good one!
A Jetstar cadet? Getting a job in a company requiring command decisions in aircraft when they've only been prepared to be a Captain's sexual advisor?? Just to fill in time???
Not in my company, not while ever my bum points to the ground!
Been bitten before with cadets, won't go there again!
Go straight to the jet - and read someone else's checklist for at least a decade, and that's the safest place for you...
(Caveat - there may be good cadets out there, but I couldn't be bothered looking!)
Not in my company, not while ever my bum points to the ground!
Been bitten before with cadets, won't go there again!
Go straight to the jet - and read someone else's checklist for at least a decade, and that's the safest place for you...
(Caveat - there may be good cadets out there, but I couldn't be bothered looking!)
FBN, you're a little misinformed.
The cadets start out pretty cocky, but they find their place within a couple of years. There is a HUGE difference flying with a cadet vs flying with a pilot that has some sort of flying background. It's generally the big picture stuff, situational awareness etc.
There is a place for cadets. I just don't think it's in the right seat of a jet. They should be cruise FOs for a couple of years, or at least do a regional placement like the QF ones used to. Plenty of regionals would love to have them. Particularly the one that don't pay very well.....
The cadets start out pretty cocky, but they find their place within a couple of years. There is a HUGE difference flying with a cadet vs flying with a pilot that has some sort of flying background. It's generally the big picture stuff, situational awareness etc.
There is a place for cadets. I just don't think it's in the right seat of a jet. They should be cruise FOs for a couple of years, or at least do a regional placement like the QF ones used to. Plenty of regionals would love to have them. Particularly the one that don't pay very well.....
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Well everybody is entitle to their opinion.
But whether you think cadets do or don't belong as Jet FOs is not relevant. Jetstar think they do, and have acted on that to have cadets as FOs , and it is a long term program.
Wouldn't have thought Cobhams would have taken large numbers of "first jet" people over last couple of years, FIFO quite static. GA regional also competing against ADF , as well as expats returning from OS with significant jet time.
Cathay also gone 100% cadet
Grim few years ahead for GA/Regional looking to move on. Qlink stopped processing - nobody is leaving. EU a basket case so no chance for the EU passport holders to move there - easy/ryan - cadet intakes only. The way Jetstar is moving towards here.
But whether you think cadets do or don't belong as Jet FOs is not relevant. Jetstar think they do, and have acted on that to have cadets as FOs , and it is a long term program.
Wouldn't have thought Cobhams would have taken large numbers of "first jet" people over last couple of years, FIFO quite static. GA regional also competing against ADF , as well as expats returning from OS with significant jet time.
Cathay also gone 100% cadet
Grim few years ahead for GA/Regional looking to move on. Qlink stopped processing - nobody is leaving. EU a basket case so no chance for the EU passport holders to move there - easy/ryan - cadet intakes only. The way Jetstar is moving towards here.
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The world and the economics of the RPT industry have changed. The Low Cost Carrier model is here to stay and the new norm. People in the aviation industry who don't recognise this are dinosaurs.
You may not like it, but the LCC economic tide is unstoppable. You are deluded to not recognise this.
You may not like it, but the LCC economic tide is unstoppable. You are deluded to not recognise this.
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hearing that all Feb 2013,Aug 2013 and Feb 2014 cadets will NOT get jobs, Aug 2012 will be the last group to go through with the A320 endo and get jobs . Wonder how Oxford will handle this
ozziejim: hearing that all Feb 2013,Aug 2013 and Feb 2014 cadets will NOT get jobs, Aug 2012 will be the last group to go through with the A320 endo and get jobs . Wonder how Oxford will handle this
transition_alt: Can confirm ozziejim's comment above.
I also imagine that a lot of these cadets will look for other avenues to get a start. Problem is, they haven't likely been trained in relevant aspects of aircraft command and I daresay FBN's attitude is the norm amongst them. Any CP seeing this thread would be concerned about bringing their poison into their company.
Since they have possibly been fed a false dream, won't they have some recourse to get their parent's money back?
Regardless, tomorrow when the out of luck cadets are dreaming of their jet, us in GA will get to go flying, take a look out the window at the spectacular countryside that is Australia, and hopefully reflect positively on why we started flying in the first place!
Since they have possibly been fed a false dream, won't they have some recourse to get their parent's money back?
Regardless, tomorrow when the out of luck cadets are dreaming of their jet, us in GA will get to go flying, take a look out the window at the spectacular countryside that is Australia, and hopefully reflect positively on why we started flying in the first place!
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So you are saying that Jetstar have defined what their employment numbers for September 2015 , sure they have.
I doubt this is true.
But if it is the bad news is for GA/Regional people as the priorities for employment at Jetstar are firstly other Qantas group pilots , then cadets then others.
Likely they will place them in Qlink for a period.
If the cadets have to wait a bit longer post grad , then it ain't looking good for turbo-prop dreaming is it ?
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I doubt this is true.
But if it is the bad news is for GA/Regional people as the priorities for employment at Jetstar are firstly other Qantas group pilots , then cadets then others.
Likely they will place them in Qlink for a period.
If the cadets have to wait a bit longer post grad , then it ain't looking good for turbo-prop dreaming is it ?
Go Direct to the Jet - Go Cadet
Flyboat North: Likely they will place them in Qlink for a period.
Why would they do that now?
Aren't they Jeststar cadets, not Qantas or QLink cadets?
I must admit I don't know the exact set over there but I'd imagine the QLink companies recruit their own pilots to suit their own operations and wouldn't be taking Jetstar cadets just because they are surplus at Jetstar.