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Old 17th Apr 2014, 06:31
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Thanks for that info sheet, FLGOFF.
So I assume that the majority of phase 1 is spent at Swinburne, and only the practical at OAA?
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Old 17th Apr 2014, 07:23
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This entire thread has been an absolute disgrace, everyone get over yourselves. Concentrate on number 1(you) and disregard what every one else is doing. There's been no advice given but as typical as the industry is in this country, everyone and anyone will climb over each other just to look better.

If we all had the opportunity to join an airline at 20 and not do GA we all would. Only problem with some cadets is their arrogance and Maverick attitudes. These guys get shut down quickly especially when they can't even read a TAF!! Most of them are willing to learn! Minorities will always bring down the entire group so let's just get on with the job! Over and out!!
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Old 17th Apr 2014, 07:37
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Thanks for that info sheet, FLGOFF.
So I assume that the majority of phase 1 is spent at Swinburne, and only the practical at OAA?
No problem. All the CASA license theory is completed at OAA in addition to the practical flying. The time spent completing the Associate Degree of Aviation at Swinburne is minimal. Only about one day a week will be spent at Swinburne, and the remaining 3-4 days are spent at OAA.
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Old 17th Apr 2014, 12:35
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Ask the recently graduated Jeststar cadets who have been told, "No job" what they think
Where did you find this out from?
I have it on pretty good authority that that latest graduates of the CTC Jetstar cadet programme have been told no jobs for them.
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 06:06
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Rumours, true or false?
  • Jetstar Cadet programme cancelled or suspended.
  • Cadets mid-programme receive a refund.
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 09:31
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Cadets mid-programme receive a refund.
That would be amazing if true. The students dont know it yet but if thats the case they just hit the jackpot.
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 09:49
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Flyboat North - care to grace us with your wisdom on this??
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 10:30
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Flyboat North - care to grace us with your wisdom on this??
We dont need more of his verbal diarrhoea.
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 11:09
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I doubt jetstar would cancel the course midway through, they most likely would rather have a pool of cadets ready once recruitment restarts again, plus the cadets don't pay jetstar, they'd be on FEE-HELP, don't think JQ has the power to make Swinburne refund the course fees already paid.
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 12:47
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I'd agree, Jetstar don't have anything to do with the cadets until they have finished their Phase 1 training in Australia and New Zealand. It is only then after when they go to do their A320 type-rating that the cadets sign a contract with Jetstar.
So up until then, they are really just doing an accelerated aviation course with Oxford in Aus or CTC in NZ, using FEE-HELP in Australia and whatever the equivalent is in NZ. And with the potential position of an F/O in Jetstar subject to successful completion of the course and a position available in Jetstar.

This isn't the first time cadets have been told "no job for now, we'll contact you later when we have room"... It happened a few years ago and those guys after waiting 12 months all got jobs.

Only difference now is the state of the Qantas group which is quite significant.
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 22:03
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The CTC one is all personal funding.

And the current ones training have been told there is no guarantee of jumping straight into the jet, go get another job and we will call you.
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Old 6th Jun 2014, 06:33
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The program goes on as per normal, the cadets will graduate and as standard protocol applies:

"Upon successful completion of the Jetstar Australia Pilot Cadet Program, you will be offered with a place in the conditional employee reserve with airline. There is the intention to employ successful cadet pilots however it is dependent on the position vacancy and industry performance at the time"

The mid-year intake was cancelled a few months ago because the QF group knew then what would be in the papers today. Not a good look to have a cadet intake in one part of the business, whilst reducing in another part of the business, also reducing your negotiating power a tad.

The above is not a guarantee of employee, quite close to it though. The reason there is no guarantee is because of the reasons alluded to by Keg the other week, detailing his commencement with QF with the Adelaide cadets back around 94.

Not a great redundancy deal negotiated by AIPA, rule of thumb one month per year is good , with two weeks per year as the minimum & it is capped quite low.

Heard the other day that the wage bill for the Long Haul pilots on reserve is 100 mill pa, no wonder that the business that was given to Qantas for free by the taxpayer has been sucked dry in twenty years.

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Old 6th Jun 2014, 19:42
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Hey unfortunately they have stopped taking people from the jetstar cadet programme and have encouraged people who have recently completed it to go and look for other jobs, there are quite a number of guys who have completed it without jobs
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Old 7th Jun 2014, 00:21
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Uh-oh here we go again..
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Old 7th Jun 2014, 01:46
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What makes flytwat a complete crackup is the fact that his first post on Pp was less than 18 moths ago asking about inst ratings and subsequently trolling for details of various cadet schemes(so a 38 year old wannabe?). Although he craps on about the wonderful Jetstar cadet scheme he certainly isn't part of it. Lately just vitriolic dribble mostly aimed at Qantas Crew (and a whinge about Virgins' cadet program). Bitter with a twist!
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Old 7th Jun 2014, 01:54
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FB: Qantas has been sucked dry in 20 years, not the other way around...

You have no airline understanding at all.
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 07:33
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Jetstar recruiting!

It's confirmed that at least 2 pilots from a regional airline in AUS have been given a start date within the next few weeks. Anyone else know more? Numbers? Future ground schools? Recruitment plans? This, I believe is the first indication of some long awaited movement
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 10:44
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What?! FBN didn't get a start date? Lol.
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 12:16
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4 from QLD, possibly more down South.
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 21:41
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Jetstar recruiting is not a surprise nor would it surprise me if Virgin took a few. That is they way it used to be small intakes spread out through the year to cover attrition. Then the flow on effect of that through the regionals. That was the way it was when Ansett ,Qantas and TAA ruled the skies.
The period we have just seen was unprecedented; aligning of the planets,to create unsustainable growth in the aviation pilot supply chain.It was great but unfortunately the party is over. The downside I feel was the cadet schemes, but we won't go into that anymore, I hope they get what they work for.
Anyway good to see a few getting a guernsey. I hope that it continues and those waiting in the wings be patient and enjoy the ride. This is the new black I am afraid, in the recruitment scene.
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