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Forum: ATC Issues
24th Oct 2009, 12:25
Replies: 42
Views: 8,203
Posted By Ben Doonigan

You could always Ask Ian .......

You could always Ask Ian .... (http://www.nats.co.uk/text/246/nats_and_the_environment.html)

:D
A big green one .... just don't make me angry ... you wouldn't like me when I'm angry ...
Forum: ATC Issues
22nd Oct 2009, 13:29
Replies: 42
Views: 8,203
Posted By Ben Doonigan

Engage brain before opening mouth ... ?

Gianni






:hmm:

Is that supposed to be a considered opinion from an aviation professional .... or just an illiterate abusive rant ? :rolleyes:
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Oct 2009, 20:06
Replies: 22
Views: 5,069
Posted By Ben Doonigan

Excuse the figures recalled from memory ...

I have a problem understanding how all this will end up ......

1 - Government 'sells' 49% to the Airline Group, who put in ~£60m of their own money and then borrow ~£650m, saddling that debt onto...
5th May 2009, 11:19
Replies: 1,533
Views: 3,411,453
Posted By Ben Doonigan

Looks as if it was VERY cold ... ;)

Looks as if it was VERY cold ... ;)
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Apr 2009, 11:40
Replies: 2,329
Views: 435,839
Posted By Ben Doonigan

EXACTLY ! Folks. Put self interest (and...

EXACTLY !

Folks. Put self interest (and grubby notes) to the side and think long term - PLEASE.

It would also help if our esteemed Union officers would set an example on this and weren't the...
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Feb 2009, 21:03
Replies: 2,329
Views: 435,839
Posted By Ben Doonigan

EGLYNT ermmm.... don't people retire ? Some...

EGLYNT

ermmm.... don't people retire ? Some popping off the top and saving top-of-the-scale wages, and then being replaced by entrants at the bottom ?

Are increments for all 5500 staff, or just...
Forum: ATC Issues
30th Jan 2009, 07:33
Replies: 2,329
Views: 435,839
Posted By Ben Doonigan

Why not just sack all those pesky controllers and...

Why not just sack all those pesky controllers and ATSAs ?

I mean, who needs them. All they do is grumble and complain on NATSnet, winding up the "really important people".

Think of the...
Forum: ATC Issues
29th Dec 2008, 17:33
Replies: 169
Views: 22,311
Posted By Ben Doonigan

Actually I heard that they have. Because...

Actually I heard that they have.

Because the pound has crashed (25%) against the euro, and because eurocontrol charges are in ... euros ... NATS has accordingly reduced its rates to the airlines....
Forum: ATC Issues
10th Dec 2008, 18:18
Replies: 169
Views: 22,311
Posted By Ben Doonigan

Mr Barrons speeches ...

I believe it was a speech to the Aviation Club (October 2006?) and in it he criticised ATCOs for being loyal to their licence and not the company ! :ugh: Can't find it anywhere .... keep googling...
Forum: ATC Issues
10th Dec 2008, 17:45
Replies: 169
Views: 22,311
Posted By Ben Doonigan

What happens next ?

My prediction .....

PCS vote yes 60/40
ATCEs vote split 50/50
ATCOs branch vote no 60/40

overall numbers 55/45 yes vote
management press on with changes
much grumbling but no immediate...
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Dec 2008, 14:00
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,833
Posted By Ben Doonigan

Scuse me .... I get pi$$ed off with people saying...

Scuse me .... I get pi$$ed off with people saying that our shift pattern is 6 on and 4 off. it is not, it is 7 and 3.

I work 30 cycles per year, and out of that I do about 50 nightshifts/10 day...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Nov 2008, 15:59
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,833
Posted By Ben Doonigan

Reasons not to vote 'yes'.

1 - Trust. This could refer to the Trust of a Promise, Deed of Trust or "do you trust management".

I cannot believe that the proposal is an unavoidable and 'best we can do' solution to solve the...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Nov 2008, 15:14
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,833
Posted By Ben Doonigan

Special Conference Motions

Anyone seen what Motions have been put for Special Conference ? Any news from the battlefront ?
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Oct 2008, 23:09
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,833
Posted By Ben Doonigan

Briefings are completely one-sided presenting a...

Briefings are completely one-sided presenting a fait accompli.

Several forumites have said they have been convinced by 'the figures'.

Well I don't think it IS as simple as that.

The Airline...
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Oct 2008, 10:16
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,833
Posted By Ben Doonigan

I went in with an open mind ... I came out a...

I went in with an open mind ... I came out a confirmed NO.

I do not doubt that the union guys believe that this is a lesser evil than the potential chaos of 'Plan B', and their views were well...
Forum: ATC Issues
15th Feb 2004, 00:47
Replies: 601
Views: 72,729
Posted By Ben Doonigan

250kts wrote .... "Target Sector Flows are not...

250kts wrote ....
"Target Sector Flows are not necessarily a guide to busyness as they have to be adapted to allow for complexity."

Exactly my point. What is 'busyness'? TSFs take complexity into...
Forum: ATC Issues
14th Feb 2004, 21:03
Replies: 601
Views: 72,729
Posted By Ben Doonigan

This morning's wordy 'explanation' from the Union...

This morning's wordy 'explanation' from the Union arrived and was read with deep interest.

Sadly I feel it is purely a wordy PR exercise and has paid lip service to the concerns of those about...
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