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Forum: ATC Issues
12th Feb 2003, 20:56
Replies: 519
Views: 93,973
Posted By fish food

Spot Hoping for a speedy and just conclusion...

Spot

Hoping for a speedy and just conclusion to this entire affair.

Best wishes, from a civvy colleague.
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Feb 2003, 09:28
Replies: 13
Views: 1,699
Posted By fish food

Most frequent I've experienced is bod in the bar...

Most frequent I've experienced is bod in the bar delaying the departure - slot gets missed - therefore delay then becomes due ATC, despite self loading freight, baggage boys, whoever, having caused...
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Feb 2003, 08:42
Replies: 4
Views: 949
Posted By fish food

GATCO used to do a scheme through Channel...

GATCO used to do a scheme through Channel Insurance Brokers. However, CIB couldn't get an insurance firm to underwrite the scheme so it folded after only a few years. (The annual premium was about...
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Feb 2003, 23:00
Replies: 2
Views: 2,303
Posted By fish food

Jalbert The Shanwick Oceanic Control Area...

Jalbert

The Shanwick Oceanic Control Area consists of international airspace delegated, (by ICAO), to the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland, (separately), which both states combined to form a...
Forum: ATC Issues
31st Jan 2003, 22:31
Replies: 2
Views: 859
Posted By fish food

Single-cell You should take a trip up the M6...

Single-cell

You should take a trip up the M6 sometime and have a look see - you'd then be able to answer your own question.

:=

PS. The majority ATCOs at Scottish probably hail from outwith...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Jan 2003, 22:43
Replies: 20
Views: 2,688
Posted By fish food

For the 'font' programmers: Bon Jovi -...

For the 'font' programmers:

Bon Jovi - "Destination Anywhere" :D

For SRG:

Public Image Limited - "Rules and Regulations" :mad:

alternatively
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Jan 2003, 19:24
Replies: 9
Views: 1,823
Posted By fish food

Whit for? We uise the samin RTF in oor awn leid...

Whit for? We uise the samin RTF in oor awn leid as yese. (An nae smairt observes fae the Soothron fowk gif ye please!).

As for the Glesgae leid, gif ye dinna unnerstaund, naither dae a!

:D
Forum: ATC Issues
25th Jan 2003, 22:25
Replies: 8
Views: 1,250
Posted By fish food

63K... Quite correct! The very same...

63K...



Quite correct! The very same argument is used by management for NOT transferring ATCOs from Prestwick Oceanic to Scottish Airways for cross-training. You end up with a two trainee...
Forum: ATC Issues
24th Jan 2003, 14:15
Replies: 6
Views: 936
Posted By fish food

TUTH & V/L - It's not the "wick" but the...

TUTH & V/L -

It's not the "wick" but the "ick" that's the governing factor. You can then add a brand new centre just a few miles from Limmerick to your list! Just as likely an option as the rest....
Forum: ATC Issues
27th Dec 2002, 19:13
Replies: 3
Views: 1,038
Posted By fish food

Findo: OK, fair point, but seriously, can you...

Findo: OK, fair point, but seriously, can you expand upon what you understand as being a "logical Functional Block of Airspace", as your own definition, "compatible systems for data exchange", could...
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Dec 2002, 17:58
Replies: 3
Views: 1,038
Posted By fish food

Question Iaa & Nats

Taken from the Guild of Air Traffic Control Officers quarterly publication Transmit (Winter 2002) re. NATS/GATCO meeting 12th Sept 2002. Subject:

Single Eurpoean Sky (SES)

NATS is consulting...
Forum: ATC Issues
12th Dec 2002, 18:39
Replies: 32
Views: 4,064
Posted By fish food

BAD NEWS ALL ROUND! - Fewer ATCOs, shorter leave...

BAD NEWS ALL ROUND! - Fewer ATCOs, shorter leave 'blocks', loss of 'team spirit' in the working environment, fewer breaks therefore longer periods of time on sector between breaks, the list goes...
9th Dec 2002, 08:44
Replies: 29
Views: 6,391
Posted By fish food

Personally, I couldn't give a 4X who jumps up and...

Personally, I couldn't give a 4X who jumps up and down about NATS just so long as the damned thing and ALL of us in it are brought back under 100% public ownership, get a competent team of managers...
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Dec 2002, 20:52
Replies: 37
Views: 4,650
Posted By fish food

A minor point 'Ear-OTG', the "new" Prestwick...

A minor point 'Ear-OTG', the "new" Prestwick Oceanic Area Control Centre already exists and is simply awaiting the purchase of new kit to become operational - it is referred to locally as "the brown...
Forum: ATC Issues
7th Aug 2002, 14:20
Replies: 8
Views: 1,112
Posted By fish food

ditto :)

ditto

:)
Forum: ATC Issues
6th Aug 2002, 11:56
Replies: 8
Views: 1,112
Posted By fish food

BB - Quite correct: It is possible to have...

BB - Quite correct:

It is possible to have spent 8 (+) years at Oceanic, (never having sat at a radar sector since 'pre Area II Famil' whilst at CATC), and then be placed on the same IVC,...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Jul 2002, 12:52
Replies: 139
Views: 13,287
Posted By fish food

Be careful with your figures. The beauty of 2...

Be careful with your figures. The beauty of 2 year deals, especially with staggered increments, is that the bean-counters can sell them a hundred different ways to a hundred different people. i.e. a...
Forum: ATC Issues
17th Jul 2002, 00:22
Replies: 71
Views: 7,733
Posted By fish food

SATCO - Why not throw in education while...

SATCO -
Why not throw in education while you're at it! In this country we have a word frequently used to describe a person not unlike yourself. (Judging by your previous posts).

"BAMPOT"

If...
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Jul 2002, 16:09
Replies: 71
Views: 7,733
Posted By fish food

SATCO - You are, of course, quite correct... ...

SATCO - You are, of course, quite correct...

If I'm not working, I'm on a day off.

I work: MMAANNSOOO

There are 3 days during which I do not work, I therefore have 3 DAYS OFF every cycle. ...
Forum: ATC Issues
15th Jul 2002, 23:21
Replies: 71
Views: 7,733
Posted By fish food

Wheelybin - couldn't agree more, a sleep day is...

Wheelybin - couldn't agree more, a sleep day is NOT a day off.

Oceanic can have you rostered 'til 0900 on a night-shift and with the eastbound flow at a peak between 0300 and 0700 its not exactly...
Forum: ATC Issues
14th Jul 2002, 17:23
Replies: 71
Views: 7,733
Posted By fish food

Seems to me that its only NERC where the proposed...

Seems to me that its only NERC where the proposed overtime will occur, so no effect, (either detremental or beneficial), will be felt elsewhere. (ATSAs can't even get OT at ScOACC!).

Well said...
Forum: ATC Issues
4th Jul 2002, 08:17
Replies: 22
Views: 2,067
Posted By fish food

A word of warning - can be a bit of a soap box...

A word of warning - can be a bit of a soap box for us NATS (UK) happy, jolly, contented, well (over?) paid bods (kidding!)

Enjoy!!!
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jun 2002, 10:34
Replies: 24
Views: 4,213
Posted By fish food

I only wish MOL had been sat next to me on the...

I only wish MOL had been sat next to me on the only trip in a commercial flight where I have been in fear for my life:

Day-time approach, turn onto 'short' final where bank angle and induced 'G'...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jun 2002, 09:15
Replies: 76
Views: 7,243
Posted By fish food

Dear Mr Grubby Following one of your recent...

Dear Mr Grubby

Following one of your recent posts and on behalf of a few million of my countrymen, I just thought I'd let you know what the dawn chorus was this morning, just in case you are too...
Forum: ATC Issues
19th Jun 2002, 09:35
Replies: 3
Views: 719
Posted By fish food

Missing Papers? If my colleagues had received...

Missing Papers? If my colleagues had received theirs and posted them back and, with the return deadline approaching, my papers had not arrived, I'd have been on the 'phone to Prospect PDQ!

Papers...
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Jun 2002, 08:04
Replies: 76
Views: 7,243
Posted By fish food

81% rejected the offer, EXCELLENT!, until someone...

81% rejected the offer, EXCELLENT!, until someone at work pointed out the arithmetic, which left me feeling somewhat deflated.

Of the total ATCO Branch membership;


58% voted to reject ...
Forum: ATC Issues
31st May 2002, 23:36
Replies: 46
Views: 7,377
Posted By fish food

NoWay: Thanks for your post! My own example: ...

NoWay: Thanks for your post! My own example:

I've been qualified for four years and my NATS take home pay last month was approx .....2600 quid. That includes shift allowance and OJTI pay.

Seems...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st May 2002, 15:50
Replies: 9
Views: 869
Posted By fish food

Tug 3: Excellent link! Unlikely I know, but...

Tug 3: Excellent link!

Unlikely I know, but any CAA peeps out there with a clue as to what figures were used to blow a serious hole in the "no money" argument?

Not those from the "2.2+3.7=6"...
Forum: ATC Issues
17th May 2002, 23:39
Replies: 98
Views: 15,864
Posted By fish food

As for there not being any money, how come the...

As for there not being any money, how come the 'high-heid-yins' say one minute that NATS is skint, and the next that the settlement reached with EDS over the cancellation of the Oceanic FDPS contract...
Forum: ATC Issues
8th May 2002, 23:23
Replies: 21
Views: 3,143
Posted By fish food

Crowman: Easy way of boosting transatlantic...

Crowman: Easy way of boosting transatlantic revenues -

"Good morning customers, your oceanic clearance is brought to you today by our proud sponsors the Airline Group and HM Govt., working...
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd May 2002, 00:12
Replies: 24
Views: 2,827
Posted By fish food

Could be different by the time you read this, but...

Could be different by the time you read this, but there is absolutely nothing (that I could find) on the IAA web site re. this meeting of minds - and overdrafts!

http://www.iaa.ie


...
Forum: ATC Issues
19th Apr 2002, 13:09
Replies: 74
Views: 7,630
Posted By fish food

Would the union take a NO vote to mean an...

Would the union take a NO vote to mean an intention to take industrial action? Or would it require a further ballot? Anyone enlighten me as to the rules?

Just a thought, but 'industrial action'...
Forum: ATC Issues
17th Apr 2002, 12:46
Replies: 74
Views: 7,630
Posted By fish food

pay deal 2002

Wigglet - Worrying in the extreme, but sadly the impression I get is that our TU guys don't get much support from Prospect at a National level. I doubt very much that Prospect will take on a Labour...
Forum: ATC Issues
17th Apr 2002, 09:14
Replies: 74
Views: 7,630
Posted By fish food

pay deal 2002

Warning!!! - NATS will never be held to the RPI+ % formula for the Year-2 element if we roll over on this one. Some excuse will surface 6-8 months hence to get Prospect back round the negotiating...
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