Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost
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Oil
As suspected the oil found wasn't from the plane.
Missing MH370: Oil slick not from plane, says MMEA - Nation | The Star Online
Missing MH370: Oil slick not from plane, says MMEA - Nation | The Star Online
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So what precisely do you find sinister about US P-3's assisting in the search? If we have we have P-3s in the region, it seems an natural and obvious thing to have offered their assistance. You're aware that the purpose of a P-3 is locating things in the water, right? and as such, would have relevant capabilities to offer? I'm at a loss for how you possibly interpret this as indicating a conspiracy.
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So what precisely do you find sinister about US P-3's assisting in the search? If we have we have P-3s in the region, it seems an natural and obvious thing to have offered their assistance. You're aware that the purpose of a P-3 is locating things in the water, right? and as such, would have relevant capabilities to offer? I'm at a loss for how you possibly interpret this as indicating a conspiracy.
Get a map out.
MH370 disappeared on the right hand side of the Malay peninsular.
The USA P3 Orions are searching on the left hand side.
This implies that the searchers know the plane did not break up immediately the transponder stopped working, but that it continued flying.
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sinister about US P-3's assisting in the search
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I would consider it to be sinister if P3s were not helping with the search.
I would hope that clandestine agencies whose role it is to take regular radar images of the ocean surface would also help if they could.
I would hope that clandestine agencies whose role it is to take regular radar images of the ocean surface would also help if they could.
A Squared, before you go off half-cocked, have a look where the Straits of Malacca are: miles away from the current search position and on the other side of Peninsula Malaysia. What in effect the authorities think is that it may have ended up there: that means it flew the whole way.
If this hasn't been specifically mentioned by the authorities then yes, one could well wonder that we're being kept out of the loop.
If this hasn't been specifically mentioned by the authorities then yes, one could well wonder that we're being kept out of the loop.
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So what precisely do you find sinister about US P-3's assisting in the search? If we have we have P-3s in the region, it seems an natural and obvious thing to have offered their assistance. You're aware that the purpose of a P-3 is locating things in the water, right? and as such, would have relevant capabilities to offer? I'm at a loss for how you possibly interpret this as indicating a conspiracy.
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So what precisely do you find sinister about US P-3's assisting in the search? If we have we have P-3s in the region, it seems an natural and obvious thing to have offered their assistance. You're aware that the purpose of a P-3 is locating things in the water, right? and as such, would have relevant capabilities to offer? I'm at a loss for how you possibly interpret this as indicating a conspiracy.
It's not a very logical place to look for a plane gone missing en route from Kuala Lumpur til Beijing - specially considering the last position of the plane as reported by FR24.
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Missing passengers
The airline press release at least stated that the now-show passengers' baggage was offloaded.
5 out of 250 doesn't seem an unreasonable number not to board, and their names are known and their passports were scanned, so they can easily be eliminated. Baggage tag scanner records should show whether they did have bags on board.
5 out of 250 doesn't seem an unreasonable number not to board, and their names are known and their passports were scanned, so they can easily be eliminated. Baggage tag scanner records should show whether they did have bags on board.
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both btw have trigger happy MIG fighter pilots, they would come clean.
You wrote this article in the South China Morning Post?
Sir, may I ask you what led you to remark that Vietnamese and Malaysian MIG fighter pilots are 'trigger happy'? Do you have any examples of late to suggest that they are less than professional than what you allege? I sure hope that your mindset of vietnamese soldiers/pilots are not the 1960s vietnam war era generation. What fighters do Malaysia have in their fleet? Do you know that there are Sukois and F-18s apart from their Mig 29s? So how are the Mig pilots are trigger happy compared to the rest?
This very statement discredits you and brings your credibility as a journalist to that of a sensationalist opportunist.
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Starting to look this way. Could the Malay Govt be covering up the fact that they took this plane out, because it was a security threat (hijacked, full of fuel, heading for KL)?
Starting to look this way. Could the Malay Govt be covering up the fact that they took this plane out, because it was a security threat (hijacked, full of fuel, heading for KL)?
People please, before hitting the send button on your post please ensure you have read the facts surrounding this flight properly.
This flight departed KUL and was heading for PEK.
I am sick of reading people's posts on here who are quoting incorrect information.
Can someone point to a credible primary source that in fact there is any search activity in the Malacca Straits ? Just because the aircraft are BASED in Butterworth (on the Malacca coast) does not mean they are searching there. I can imagine the apron at Kota Baharu getting rather cluttered, so a base 200km away might be more suitable for the long-range P-3s.
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Heading for KUL? It was heading for PEK! The conspiracy theorists who drummed up the banter regarding the flight making a turn back to KUL is totally and utterly unsubstantiated and and cannot be confirmed due to the integrity of some of the radar data that was logged. There is no credible data thus far that backs that theory up or has been confirmed.
People please, before hitting the send button on your post please ensure you have read the facts surrounding this flight properly.
This flight departed KUL and was heading for PEK.
I am sick of reading people's posts on here who are quoting incorrect information.
People please, before hitting the send button on your post please ensure you have read the facts surrounding this flight properly.
This flight departed KUL and was heading for PEK.
I am sick of reading people's posts on here who are quoting incorrect information.
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From ABC News
The search has been expanded to the Straits of Malacca on the other side of the Malaysian peninsula in order to discount the possibility that the aircraft turned back to Malaysia airspace. The U.S. Navy’s 7th Fleet is using a P-3C Orion marine surveillance aircraft to search in the northern section of the Strait of Malacca today, according to the group’s Facebook page.
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Similarity to Comet 1 disappearnce of Elba
The similarity to the Comet 1 accident off Elba is in some ways striking. For all our modern comms and tracking equipment, once a return/downlink has gone, it's gone and what happens to the airframe and all conveyed therein is as clear in 2014 as it was in 1954 until someone like a fisherman comes up with a report of seeing the incident, and that could be days, or genuine wreckage/bodies surface.
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Besides, it looks like nobody really knows whose P-3s they are or what they're doing.
edit: I see a later posts suggest that they are US P-3s searching for MH370.
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[UPDATE] Potential wreckage?
TPO - According to air traffic management agency in Hong Kong, one of their aircraft detected several unidentified fragments at position coast from Vung Tau is about 60km to the southeast (how to position the plane missing over Malaysia 500km).
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I presume standard ICAO SARPHASE procedures where followed?
The same timescales happened with AF447, SAR was only launched after the aircraft failed to make contact anywhere beyond its remaining endurance. An overwater SAR mission is a very costly exercise, and diverts scarce resources which potentially might be needed for another emergency. Such resources are not sent off on wild goose chases until at least the basic facts are gathered and analyzed.