Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

[The Wawa Zone]

I agree, Mr Ancient Geek, but still the weeds sprout.

Can PPrune mods do something, ie., delete posts from the Twilight Zone crowd ??

I would suggest however that logical debate over an unlawful interference scenario(s) would be welcome if caution was exercised. I also suspect that plenty of, or all of the stakeholders would want to actively promote a 'hijacking' scenario, but with little real evidence.

[1a sound asleep]

SHOCK POLITICAL TWIST IN MH370 SAGA: Pilot was 'obsessed' with Anwar Ibrahim, M'sian PM said to be RESIGNING
Written by Malaysia Chronicle



http://malaysia-chronicle.com/index....#axzz2w55cBkBq

[ManaAdaSystem]

Really Mr Buzzy, it has been discussed 200 times before, including the Qantas incident.

[porterhouse]

Really, google "QF30 incident"

And so what? This aircraft flew for 7 hours changing directions and heading into unknown?

[rigbyrigz]

"no human intervention"? but the waypts were also programmed. Clearly by the flight crew says Mary Schiavano.

Its actually all sorta looking like the mastermind wanted to go to a remote ditching spot with all the fuel used up, for an attempt to duplicated the great Hudson River feat with a lightened load? And maybe did??

[The Ancient Geek]

Quote:
the simplest explanation is a catastrophic depressurisation,

this is the dumbest explanation and I wrote above why. It doesn't explain anything about this flight.

What, exactly, is wrong.
It explains everything that we KNOW including the loss of signals and initial erratic radar returns. There is no reason why an aircraft with a damaged upper skin panel could not then continue until fuel exhaustion.

[Mr.Buzzy]

Thanks Manandasystem,
Please do enlighten me then. What are the pilots breathing through their mask if their oxygen cylinder ruptures and holes the fuselage?

[Heli-phile]

@ancient greek

There is NO EVIDENCE of any human intervention, terrorists, hijacking, rogue pilots, suicides or alien abduction.

The tiny amount of VERIFYABLE evidence simply tells us that something went badly wrong. Apply a good dose of Occams Razor and the simplest explanation is a catastrophic depressurisation, probably due to a structural issue.
Cargo door, cockpit windshield, upper skin panel ...... many more possible.
Even a birdstrike is possible - it has happened before at 37500 feet but I doubt if vultures would be flying at night.

let me summarise the above ....TOTAL DRIVEL or MOD fodder as I call it!

[overthewing]

The Telegraph (UK) reports on plot to hijack Malaysian plane:

Malaysia Airline MH370: 9/11-style terror allegations resurface in case of lost plane - Telegraph

[The Wawa Zone]

olasek, incorrect. A depress-urisation does not 'cause' an aircraft to fly uncommanded, it may prevent, through crew incapacitation, recovery of control of a stable uncommanded aircraft.
The thing will not plunge to the ground the moment the crew let go of it.

[porterhouse]

There is no reason why an aircraft with a damaged upper skin panel could not then continue until fuel exhaustion

Yes, there is a known reason, an aircraft would not be zigzagging, skilfully skirting ground radars. All sudden decompressions to date resulted in aircraft staying on its original programmed path.

[porterhouse]

A depress-urisation does not 'cause' an aircraft to fly uncommanded,

OK, so please enlighten us why this aircraft was zigzagging through the airspace, flying straight then making turns.

[Mr.Buzzy]

Also, while you "twilight zoners" are googling. Look up the Helios accident and read about how smart people can do dumb things when hypoxic.
As far as changes to tracks go, is the wind constant over 7 hours of passage over the earth?

[Mr.Buzzy]

Manandasystem,
Read them all. Perhaps you can explain then? What are the pilots breathing via their masks once that cylinder ruptures?

[porterhouse]

As far as changes to tracks go, is the wind constant over 7 hours of passage over the earth?

Wind will never cause you to make a sharp 90 deg turn, and then another 100 deg, etc.. Clearly you don't fly because you would never use such silly argument. You also really have no clue how wind affects aircraft.

[GTC58]

I fly the B777 and given all the facts provided by the officials a catastrophic depressurization is highly unlikely in my opinion.

In the scenario mentioned above if the depressurization was catastrophic crew intervention would have highly unlikely. In this phase of flight the aircraft would have been on autopilot in LNAV/VNAV modes. As such the aircraft if able to maintain flight would have continued on its programmed route. However the evidence provided so far suggests that the aircraft turned 180 degrees and made several course changes after.

Any of you so called experts actually received high altitude training in a pressure chamber, simulating a rapid depressurization? I have.

[Mr.Buzzy]

Of course it changed course. They selected heading, turned off the airway and passed out.

[Neogen]

Lets look at some facts or evidences:

Plane was at IGARI when it lost contact
Oil rig worker saw explosion or sort off
Other 8 people heard of explosion
Oil slick found in east (But Malaysia denied that its Jet fuel)
US7 was one of the first to reach the area
Statements coming from White-house (US) and PM (Malaysia)
Selective leaks from Pentagon / White House
Chinese satellite picked-up something (one sortie by Malaysia plane - and they rule that out)
SAR stopped on east side of Malaysia
Vietnam accuses Malaysia of not sharing information
Only Malaysian primary radar has picked up the plane. Hard to believe that India, Indonesia and other neighboring countries failed to detect. Indian radars are quite capable and they deny any intrusion (statements coming from low level officers, not PM or chief of military)
No debris in Bay of Bengal or Indian ocean.

All information or data coming from Malaysia or US. So far Malaysia has been very inconsistent in revealing/sharing information. Vietnam and China says and proposes something, Malaysia quick to issue a denial to that.

Deduction

Malaysia is hiding something of great magnitude
US is party and supplementing to whatever Malaysia is saying or hiding
Something big has happened that Malaysia is trying to cover-up
All data/information related to satellite etc is false and is being deliberately fed as afterthought

Possibility
MH370 never flew west
It had a failure with its transponder (at a wrong time)
Crew trying to navigate
US7 fleet present in that area, picked up the aircraft on their radar. Edgy and trigger happy action by them or someone.

Deliberate action to cover-up and misguide everyone to look at west. While the clean-up is being done on east side.

There is certainly more to whatever is being said by Malaysia and US. It can be concluded that plane never flew west.

[porterhouse]

They selected heading, turned off the airway and passed out.

And they woke up 45 min later changed another heading and passed out again. And again. How many childish stories do you have in store for us? Do you have clue what kind of rubbish you are spouting?

[Mr.Buzzy]

No, Helios did not disappear because it remained on its flight planned track to a destination which happened to be a capital city.

The difference here, the aircraft drifted off in a heading mode.

Come on all you experts. When you practise an explosive decompression in the simulator, how do you manage the flight path? By programming a waypoint and selecting LNAV or by selecting HDG?