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Old 5th Apr 2001, 16:19
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Well, Iwas seriously interested butI,m afraid that I will not persue my application any further if that really is the package.

In the hope that the DHL management read PPRUNE you will need to start your Captains salary above 70k + decent package before I will bring my 8000hours of 757 experience anywhere near you.
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Old 5th Apr 2001, 16:44
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Couldn't agree with you more - I'm not even type rated but with a 'package' like that (if correct) it doesn't seem worth the bother.

I'd love the 75' on the licence before retirement but l'd also like to stay level financially. This deal doesn't cut the ice!!

Can't see any experienced 757 people even thinking about a deal like this unless it's just for the love of the night flying!
 
Old 5th Apr 2001, 17:30
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Wet Power, if correct they won't get many choosers. It seems a long way from the £120K being bandied about earlier in this thread. I for one will not be applying!
 
Old 5th Apr 2001, 18:06
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DHL = Desperate Hungry Losers?

 
Old 5th Apr 2001, 18:18
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Going back to the Air Contractors Ops Manager, he was a good bloke. The new outfit should have snapped him up rather than lose him from aviation.
 
Old 5th Apr 2001, 19:04
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This dosent seem right some how. DHL would need to pay a premium in order to atract experienced and type rated Pilots. Management know this. So why on earth would they waste money (advertising) and resources (interviewing) with a package like this ???

Nah, cant be right.
 
Old 5th Apr 2001, 19:39
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This is the package that was passed on to me by Selma Cruickshank at Walton Churchill - it is genuine.

Surprised me as well - basically I think DHL are going to have a hell of a job, if not an expensive one manning twenty-odd 757s over the next couple of years at these rates.

My feeling is that they have had a lot of initial interest so they are feeling a bit bullish about the market and that is reflected in the salary and conditions. Needless to say, I think they have got it wrong.

Shame - in the US nightfreight is one of the best paid jobs.
 
Old 5th Apr 2001, 22:28
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Wet Power,
Your probably right, they were impressed with the response. As I said some time ago, all the applications from those type rated people who are basically happy with their present job, where her in doors is settled! they weren`t really interested in the job unless it was paying silly money.
Alright times are better now than when there was not a job to be seen, but the real world is the real world.
I wonder how many people offered interviews will actually go.
"Business is business and love is bull****".
 
Old 6th Apr 2001, 00:44
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Wet Power, if you're right about those conditions it's a complete non-starter, at least for type rated people.
 
Old 6th Apr 2001, 01:03
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Blank sheet start-up requires experienced, typed aircrew initially. Period ! That caliber of professional will scoff at 60K. Beggars 1, Choosers 0. IMHO.
 
Old 6th Apr 2001, 03:18
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The ad mentioned experience on aircraft above 40000kg which I believe includes the BAe146, perhaps they are being realistic and pulling on the wealth of experience from the lesser paid airlines. After all, its just another plane, isn't it? I'm sure they'll get the handfull of type rated pilots they'll need to start the operation.
 
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They may get a few type rated people who can't get a job anywhere else but if they want the operation run properly (efficiently = min cost) then they are going to have to front up a decent salary.

Learn the lesson of the Orange airline where they saved 4 million a year in training costs by spending 1 million a year on a payrise to improve retention.

Pay Peanuts, get Monkeys .... and monkeys without any loyalty at that!
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Old 6th Apr 2001, 07:44
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Did I NOT TELL ALL YOU DREAMERS OUT there that the 80 grand +20 GRAND aLLOWANCES was all a figment of someones imagination!! I know this is a rumour network but that really was never on the cards.
If all of us B757 rated pilots stick together then they will not get what they want without paying more!!I would want another 20Grand just to work with BM
 
Old 6th Apr 2001, 08:20
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Gypo does actually have a point.

If enough of us say no to 60k then the laws of supply and demand will force a better offer.

Whats the feeling on this? suppose we all send an EMail to Walton Churhill at

[email protected] stating that if the rumoured package is accurate we are no longer interested. If you wish to ensure that we all play the game fairly then EMail your comments to me (address in profile)and I will forward them (with my own message also attached) to Walton Churchill and send copies of same to you all.

How about it chaps, lets get off to a decent start.

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Old 6th Apr 2001, 08:46
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COWPAT for union rep.

EMail on its way. Thanks for getting us organised.
 
Old 6th Apr 2001, 10:06
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thegypsy you sure have an axe to grind with BM. Thats fine but remember no one is forcing you to apply or work with him, your choice. This aside, I have taken note of what you have said with interest so thanks.
 
Old 6th Apr 2001, 11:49
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To reiterate, if the package was ever going to be anything to shout about, then why keep it such a secret? Were experienced f/o's expected to fill the LHS? I'm not 757, nor working in the UK, but I'd hold out on this one. Its always possible that the eastern european pilot market may be what the company are aiming at.No sure about immigration, though.
 
Old 6th Apr 2001, 14:11
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I am in fact not interested in this job with or without BM as I have no desire to return to BBB Bomber Blairs Britain!!

However if enough B757 rated Pilots apply who are not really interested and then turn down invitations to go for an interview then it might just help to push up the Anti!!??
 
Old 6th Apr 2001, 14:17
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Or for that matter BBB Bearded Branson"s Britain!!
 
Old 6th Apr 2001, 15:00
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BBB, Bald Bearded Bludgers ?
 


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