DHL - loadsa B757s

[GEENY]

757/767 rated and exp Capt says:NOT NEARLY ENOUGH!

[flying headbutt]

At present most of the aircraft flying for DHL out of EMA & BRU are A300-B4's & 727's. These are operated three crew- 2 pilots & a flight engineer so the average wages for one crew might be about 130k sterling per annum(before tax and not taking into account flight pay). Three or four sector nights are pretty normal except on the 757 the workload will be now be shared between 2 people. It seems DHL are onto a winner here as with the wages they're offering on the 757 they've managed to seriously reduce their wage bill per aircraft per annum. Not very well put but I hope you see where I'm coming from. They could easily afford to offer a much better package and I for one hope they will be forced to as it might have a knock on effect for the rest of us.

[Ticker]

There is one group of 757 rated people, to whom the package seems quite good deal as a means of topping up their pensions. That is the steady stream of retirees from BAL in the next few years.

It seems flying beyond 60 is not considered a problem by the interviewers, so 60k on top of your 45-55k pension with BAL plus the option to stop when you get p....d off might be OK.

I must add that it is not for me as I hate night flying.

[OC41]

Bernoulli

Thats a shame now because all the Kestrals will have to go back and be happy on their £2.18 an hour. Mind you if it was that bad surely you'd go to DHL?

Grass is green springs to mind.

Operational Crewing 41

[skid]

its not just the pay that is making the kestrals fly. Poor rostering,benefits,concessions,(piss poor)pension are the little rubs that get you down. That said 60k will certainly make a few birds stay in the nest, i think!

[Shanwick Shanwick]

Called Walton Churchill this afternoon. Package confirmed. Application duly withdrawn!

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[getalife]

Sent an e-mail to Walton Churchill some time ago. They did not bother to reply. But then with that package and my experience on the 757 I think they must have known that there is no way they could get me.

[COWPAT]

So, now we know the deal is anybody still interested?

[upwiththebirds]

Yes they'll still get people but maybe they'll need to spend a few bob on type ratings. After all its just another Boeing ( no rocket science required ! ). What amuses me is the conciet . Quote: "there is no way they could get me". And you guys who think you can renegotiate the package before you've even joined .....the arrogance is laughable.

[ATOM ANT]

DHL looking for experienced B757 first officer's eh? B757, B767 current, genuinely interested but nothing other than the standard 3-4 week thanks or no thanks letter, with the 4 week deadline approaching. Heard second hand interviewing last week, Is this true? Anyone with futher details? Should I bother?

[thegypsy]

COWPAT Why were you remotely interested in this job in the first place with your hour on type in command I assume?? This job may appeal to those who wish to come back to UK, a few ex Nigels on their 4th marriage! Cannot see anyone from within UK with a Charter Operator moving. Lifestyle will not be any better thats for sure!! No Slot problems that is for sure!!

[Majorbyte]

Cowpat,
I just had to respond to your comment of 'pay peanuts get monkeys', your arrogance is beyond belief I have to say, I have applied to DHL and do not regard myself as a monkey, do DHL a favour and look elsewhere.

[COWPAT]

Read the caveat in brackets mate, but then I suppose you only read what supports your preconceived ideas. I stand by my statement, complete with caveat IF applicable.

[Wet Power]

For info

DHL were interviewing last week and this week with sim slots pencilled in for 21/22 Apr with BA.

I know of a number of cancelled interviews so there maybe some last minute slots for those that are interested

[upwiththebirds]

Fair enough Cowpat. Sadly, as I'm not rated on the 757 I don't think I'm the kind of primate they want! Now where did I leave that Banana.......?

[Rogaine addict]

I'm led to believe that at least some of these 75s are going to be sent to DHL Airways as replacements for 72s. The new CEO (O'Gorman) has cancelled the next two newhire classes for the 3 seaters because we are "fat" on pilots. There are also rumors of A330s. In the past there have been lots of rumors including buying Airborne (this one surfaces regularly) buying Emery, being bought by Atlas to satisfy DOT ownership requirements, obviously none of which has materialized. O'Gorman has vowed to grow the airline and keep employees better informed as they have been pretty much in the dark previously. I bet many of you have heard that story before.

[thegypsy]

COWPAT if you want to return to UK then join DHL as you do not have stay as you are type rated. This salary is as good as you will get anywhere in UK or Europe, that is a fact so you had better get used to that or stay in your well paid?? job overseas.

[COWPAT]

Thanks for that gypo,

If I return to the UK it certainly wont be for the money, or the weather. Nonetheless there is a bottom line and 60k is well below it.
So yes I will be staying in my well paid expat tax free job thank you very much.

COWPAT

[This message has been edited by COWPAT (edited 09 April 2001).]

[Altostratus]

Is there not a danger that DHL could justify requesting work permits for non - EU pilots, if the positions are not filled in the fullness of time?

[Georgeablelovehowindia]

Altostratus: No, I really don't think so.
thegypsy : That wouldn't be Ivor, by any chance, would it?