DHL - loadsa B757s
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DouglasDigby how much notification will the recruiters plan on giving successful applicants prior to interview?
Has anyone any more news regarding salaries and conditions?
What is the likely format of interviews etc?, can people expect a sim ride as well?
Has anyone any more news regarding salaries and conditions?
What is the likely format of interviews etc?, can people expect a sim ride as well?
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Fly Better,
Its listed under Walton Churchill and the title Line Captains.
DHL Worldwide Express is the world-s largest International cross border Air Express business operating in some 227 countries with major interchange hubs situated throughout Europe and Africa; the most modern being the 25,000sq metre facility at East Midlands Airport which became operational in April 2000.
To supplement these developments DHL has ordered 34 x B757/236 Special Freighters from Boeing Airplane Services and is developing a new UK Airline based at EMA to operate 23 of these aircraft which will be delivered between July 2001 and May 2003.
This new operation, therefore, presents an exciting and unique opportunity for professionally minded individuals to join our flight crew team in a new international airline that is owned by a major global corporation, where everyone is dedicated to meeting the exacting requirements of our substantial world-wide : custome base.
Applications are invited for the following positions:
LINE CAPTAINS
* B757 TYPE RATED:
* NON-TYPE RATED: Minimum of 4000 hours totaI flying time to include 1000 hours on jet sport with an operating mass of greater than 40,000 kgs.
NB: All pilot candidates must hold either a UK CAA or JAA licence and have the right to work in the UK. Preference will be given to B757 type rated pilots although type convertion training will be available to suitable candidates utilising the services of British Airways Flight Training.
An excellent remuneration package is on offer for all positions, which include basic salary, hourly flight allowances, company pension scheme and loss of licence insurance cover for flying personnel.
(I've left out the contact details in an attempt to avoid advertising and therefore avoid the wrath of Pprune Towers.)
Good Luck.
Mutt.
Its listed under Walton Churchill and the title Line Captains.
DHL Worldwide Express is the world-s largest International cross border Air Express business operating in some 227 countries with major interchange hubs situated throughout Europe and Africa; the most modern being the 25,000sq metre facility at East Midlands Airport which became operational in April 2000.
To supplement these developments DHL has ordered 34 x B757/236 Special Freighters from Boeing Airplane Services and is developing a new UK Airline based at EMA to operate 23 of these aircraft which will be delivered between July 2001 and May 2003.
This new operation, therefore, presents an exciting and unique opportunity for professionally minded individuals to join our flight crew team in a new international airline that is owned by a major global corporation, where everyone is dedicated to meeting the exacting requirements of our substantial world-wide : custome base.
Applications are invited for the following positions:
LINE CAPTAINS
* B757 TYPE RATED:
* NON-TYPE RATED: Minimum of 4000 hours totaI flying time to include 1000 hours on jet sport with an operating mass of greater than 40,000 kgs.
NB: All pilot candidates must hold either a UK CAA or JAA licence and have the right to work in the UK. Preference will be given to B757 type rated pilots although type convertion training will be available to suitable candidates utilising the services of British Airways Flight Training.
An excellent remuneration package is on offer for all positions, which include basic salary, hourly flight allowances, company pension scheme and loss of licence insurance cover for flying personnel.
(I've left out the contact details in an attempt to avoid advertising and therefore avoid the wrath of Pprune Towers.)
Good Luck.
Mutt.
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Looks like there is a lot of interest in the DHL 757 Commands at Britannia. Why, it appears the salary package at BY is no longer market (charter)leading and time to command is still running at about 10 years.
The next 4 weeks are going to be very, very interesting. Watch this space!
The next 4 weeks are going to be very, very interesting. Watch this space!
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Pprune Towers
Jar Ops Sub part Q is still in mayhem with a
proposed start date of May 2001.
The EU will formally lay a proposal on the table by July but who knows what will be in that proposal as both Airlines and Unions
cannot agree. Clearly it is in the interest of UK operators to have sub part Q because
its a bit more in their favour, but the Spanish,Germans etc are not interested. The Italians dont even turn up at meetings...
Its also been suggested that if no agreement can be reached then the CAA might update CAP371.
DHL UK will need to recognise that days off be it CAP371 or Sub Part Q are a critical part of any package
Jar Ops Sub part Q is still in mayhem with a
proposed start date of May 2001.
The EU will formally lay a proposal on the table by July but who knows what will be in that proposal as both Airlines and Unions
cannot agree. Clearly it is in the interest of UK operators to have sub part Q because
its a bit more in their favour, but the Spanish,Germans etc are not interested. The Italians dont even turn up at meetings...
Its also been suggested that if no agreement can be reached then the CAA might update CAP371.
DHL UK will need to recognise that days off be it CAP371 or Sub Part Q are a critical part of any package
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Well here it is from an EX Britannia training captain to a present training captain. This is the pay gos!!
Captain starts £60k
Flying allowance £10-15k/year
1st year increment £5k
2nd year increment £5k
PHI,LOL,BUPA medical cover,pension.
roster is 4 on 5 days off
1st day on ex EMA 1800 gmt four nights hopping around Europe , four star hotels.Last night return to EMA approx 2am then 5 days off.
So after 2 years can expect to be on 70k plus 10-15k in flight allowances not too bad!!Plus all the goodies.
F/os £35k start plus same as captain in allowances plus all the goodies!!
After 1st year £5k increment but that's it!!
Still ok with quick prospect to command for the 1st year or two!! How does that grab you all??
Captain starts £60k
Flying allowance £10-15k/year
1st year increment £5k
2nd year increment £5k
PHI,LOL,BUPA medical cover,pension.
roster is 4 on 5 days off
1st day on ex EMA 1800 gmt four nights hopping around Europe , four star hotels.Last night return to EMA approx 2am then 5 days off.
So after 2 years can expect to be on 70k plus 10-15k in flight allowances not too bad!!Plus all the goodies.
F/os £35k start plus same as captain in allowances plus all the goodies!!
After 1st year £5k increment but that's it!!
Still ok with quick prospect to command for the 1st year or two!! How does that grab you all??
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Pity they didnt proof read the ad before they filed it though.
Any one know if the "1000hrs jet sport" requirement is P1 (as you might expect)because as written it says 4000hrs TT to include 1000 hrs on any med jet in the RHS which would be nice but seems unlikely?
Any one know if the "1000hrs jet sport" requirement is P1 (as you might expect)because as written it says 4000hrs TT to include 1000 hrs on any med jet in the RHS which would be nice but seems unlikely?
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CANNOT SEE salary mentioned by ex BRIT causing lots of people to leave the 757 CHARTER airlines exceptFO"s HOPING FOR QUICK COMMAND and why should allowances be as quoted which are 4 times what EAT get in BRUSSELS? ALL OF US B757 rated pilots should insist on a golden hello and at least 3 years increments. WHAT WILL IT COST THEM financially and timewise to train through BA? Don"t lets sell ourselves short!!!
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For the average charter Capt. to have a basic salary of around £65k you would have to be on pay piont (year) 7 with Air 2000, year 8 with Airtours,year 8 with Britannia, year 7 with jmc and year 7 with Monarch, and they are only looking at less than £5k a year in flight pay! People may well leave a charter outfit for DHL's £65k + £15-£20k flight pay, (if this is the actual pay deal.)
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Sorry - but I think "the gypsy" and "Knows" may be proved right on this one.
Certainly your figures are out of date. For example a JMC year 1 Captain is close to 60K he then has up to 20 years of increments at over £1000 per year to look forward to. Add to that one totally free holiday, a 75% discount (if he's completed 4 years) on another brochure holiday ( a good benefit if you chose an expensive holiday from the select brochure), A decent final salary pension, LOL etc. Frankly, like others, I'm delighted to see the market hotting up. (Easyjet's sign on bonus for trainers is easily the best "remuneration" news pilots have had for years). I'm just saying that DHL aren't really going to attract many experienced guys with this unimpressive package. What do others think?
[This message has been edited by FO Nigetrussoxide (edited 19 March 2001).]
Certainly your figures are out of date. For example a JMC year 1 Captain is close to 60K he then has up to 20 years of increments at over £1000 per year to look forward to. Add to that one totally free holiday, a 75% discount (if he's completed 4 years) on another brochure holiday ( a good benefit if you chose an expensive holiday from the select brochure), A decent final salary pension, LOL etc. Frankly, like others, I'm delighted to see the market hotting up. (Easyjet's sign on bonus for trainers is easily the best "remuneration" news pilots have had for years). I'm just saying that DHL aren't really going to attract many experienced guys with this unimpressive package. What do others think?
[This message has been edited by FO Nigetrussoxide (edited 19 March 2001).]
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jmc capt. salary scale as published last week
year1 £58344
year2 £59394
year3 £60463
year4 £61551
year5 £62660
year6 £63787
year7 £64935
year8 £66104
etc etc etc
The totaly free holiday is only avail to short haul destinations, and then only to a limited number of crap destinations that you would never pay full fair to go to. People are about to walk, (there will be more than just DHL coming over the horizon soon)
year1 £58344
year2 £59394
year3 £60463
year4 £61551
year5 £62660
year6 £63787
year7 £64935
year8 £66104
etc etc etc
The totaly free holiday is only avail to short haul destinations, and then only to a limited number of crap destinations that you would never pay full fair to go to. People are about to walk, (there will be more than just DHL coming over the horizon soon)
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With the planned closure of the bmi fokker base at EMA I would expect there to be a lot of interest from the crews not senior enough to get onto the A330. Perhaps they will be able to retain there country estates & not move to that bedsit in Hounslow
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Received standard format reply from Walton Churchill today...'initial interviews will take place within the next 3-4 weeks...
If you do not hear from us further in the near future, etc., etc.'
Now a matter of sitting and waiting to see if anything happens - obviously depends how many rated people apply. From a completely selfish viewpoint the less the better since l'm unfortunately not rated (story of my life). Anyway if anyone's remotely interested l've applied for D/E and l have 1200 P1 on 727 plus 15 years night freight; doesn't take much working out who l fly for!
I'm very happy with my present company (love the 72'), but an opportunity like this has to be a 'once in a lifetime'. Anyway best of luck to one and all.
If you do not hear from us further in the near future, etc., etc.'
Now a matter of sitting and waiting to see if anything happens - obviously depends how many rated people apply. From a completely selfish viewpoint the less the better since l'm unfortunately not rated (story of my life). Anyway if anyone's remotely interested l've applied for D/E and l have 1200 P1 on 727 plus 15 years night freight; doesn't take much working out who l fly for!
I'm very happy with my present company (love the 72'), but an opportunity like this has to be a 'once in a lifetime'. Anyway best of luck to one and all.