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6on/8off and 80k!!!!!!!!,i believe it when i see it.
Why would DHL pay the pilots of a new set up more and give them more days off,than they do any other pilot in there system.
All other opperators work on 8on/6off(if your lucky) and do this for 50+K plus flightpay (captains)and 35K plus flightpay(F/O)
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Why would DHL pay the pilots of a new set up more and give them more days off,than they do any other pilot in there system.
All other opperators work on 8on/6off(if your lucky) and do this for 50+K plus flightpay (captains)and 35K plus flightpay(F/O)
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A 727 captain with DHL's Brussels based airline EAT makes about 45k sterling and works 8 ON/ 6 Off.In fact, day 1 starts at midnight and day 8 ends at 4 o'clock in the morning of your first off day. So you're really working 9 consecutive nights. And you may call it work: long dutytimes, multiple sectors at night, long turnovers, irregular sleep/work rythms, poor maintenance, hotels getting cheaper, no catering on board, simulator and training in your off days. During your 9 nights on duty, you will rarely ever see home. Your wife will think you're on long haul flights. I suppose the salary will be better with the new UK branch ,otherwise they won't find a dog to fly for them, but the working conditions...?
Welcome to the real world of overnight cargo operations.
Welcome to the real world of overnight cargo operations.
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As I said it is a rumour that is being banded about our company (Charter) at the moment.
But lets think about it, they want to get their hands on some very experienced B757 captains. Air 2000 top whack is 80k, Jmc is 81k, Monarch 81k, and Airtours 70k. If they want to attract these pilots from their current company to fly night freight they are going to have to pay more, alot more.
Remember that they are setting up a new airline in the UK with its own AOC, they will need some very experienced B757 pilots, including IREs and TREs, and are going to have to pay for them.
But lets think about it, they want to get their hands on some very experienced B757 captains. Air 2000 top whack is 80k, Jmc is 81k, Monarch 81k, and Airtours 70k. If they want to attract these pilots from their current company to fly night freight they are going to have to pay more, alot more.
Remember that they are setting up a new airline in the UK with its own AOC, they will need some very experienced B757 pilots, including IREs and TREs, and are going to have to pay for them.
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Man Flex 32.5 you are correct. It allows an eight hour FDP on five consecutive nights with discretion limited to one hour on each of two separate nights.
What would people think of say, one night on standby, five nights of flying, followed by six days off? That's a British day off as defined by two local nights encompassed by a period of thirty six hours.
What would people think of say, one night on standby, five nights of flying, followed by six days off? That's a British day off as defined by two local nights encompassed by a period of thirty six hours.
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Could anyone let me know where I go to apply for this? I know it was in flight but I havent found a copy yet! They seem to dissapear faster these days with all the jobs in them.
I checked DHL website but with no luck and the Flight Int. website there is no mention in there either. IS there an address anyone could post for me on here?
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I checked DHL website but with no luck and the Flight Int. website there is no mention in there either. IS there an address anyone could post for me on here?
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BUT you must quote the appropriate reference number...
Training captains (B757 TRE) TC222
Line Captains LC223 (min 4000 hrs TT to include 1000 hrs jet transport greater than 40 tonnes)
First Officers F0224 (1500 hrs TT, to include either 500 jet transport, or, 1000 hrs turbine)
Hope that this is of some help!
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BUT you must quote the appropriate reference number...
Training captains (B757 TRE) TC222
Line Captains LC223 (min 4000 hrs TT to include 1000 hrs jet transport greater than 40 tonnes)
First Officers F0224 (1500 hrs TT, to include either 500 jet transport, or, 1000 hrs turbine)
Hope that this is of some help!
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There is a para in CAP371 that allows 5 consecutive early reports but not nights ( with night defined as 0200-0459LT )
I do however understand there is a Freighter variation (Channex?) that allows 5 nights, with restrictions much like the early rules.
It is unlikely that you would get a patern that includes 8 days. You'd need a day off somewhere so poss 4 nights, rest day 5, day off day 6 then single night. That said any CAA variation would probably insist on run of flights + days off.
The way CAP371 works now is that you can come up with a variation as long as its agreed by the Pilot workforce, and undoubtedly you could consider a 5-6 night package followed by loads of days off to compenstate.
If salary was high, and with a loads of days off then it might be tempting to some of the forementioned Nigels
There is a para in CAP371 that allows 5 consecutive early reports but not nights ( with night defined as 0200-0459LT )
I do however understand there is a Freighter variation (Channex?) that allows 5 nights, with restrictions much like the early rules.
It is unlikely that you would get a patern that includes 8 days. You'd need a day off somewhere so poss 4 nights, rest day 5, day off day 6 then single night. That said any CAA variation would probably insist on run of flights + days off.
The way CAP371 works now is that you can come up with a variation as long as its agreed by the Pilot workforce, and undoubtedly you could consider a 5-6 night package followed by loads of days off to compenstate.
If salary was high, and with a loads of days off then it might be tempting to some of the forementioned Nigels
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I cannot see any uk Charter Captain leaving to join DHL at EMA unless they live on the doorstep and get paid huge sums of money as well which is not going to happen! Why would the rumoured package be worth 35000 more gross than the boys in Brussels are getting? Especially as tax in UK is much lower in UK which is probably why they are basing in UK rather in Brussels in the first place.No doubt all the rotations will go through Brussels.
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If the salary is going to be above industry average (UK pay scales this is), then why not include as much it in the advert? Lets face it, easyJet are quite blatant about their joining bonus. Money talks, night freight sucks.
I think that the pay will be dependant on the amount of interest in the positions. F/Os will not be a problem, but maybe a few expatriate skippers from RBA and the like might wanna return home.Its amazing who turns up out of the woodwork when direct commands are involved.
What chances for experienced F/Os (ie 5000+ jet) getting direct commands?
I think that the pay will be dependant on the amount of interest in the positions. F/Os will not be a problem, but maybe a few expatriate skippers from RBA and the like might wanna return home.Its amazing who turns up out of the woodwork when direct commands are involved.
What chances for experienced F/Os (ie 5000+ jet) getting direct commands?
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As the Prisoner infers, the lack of pay information in the ad is a form of bait to see the level of interest and experience from applicants. Expectations are however very high and the drop out rate once salaries are revealed will give the company a very clear indication of whether they've pitched it wrong.
Although a UK AOC means that initially CAP 371 will have to be followed charter pilots are very aware that the definition of a day off changes totally in the Sub Part Q Jar Ops proposals.
As no local nights are included at all in the proposal, just a set number of hours off, experienced pilots will be very cagey about accepting anything other than a very attractive contract with extremely strong provisions to ensure a good quality of life no matter what FTL's are in place.
Otherwise why move???
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Although a UK AOC means that initially CAP 371 will have to be followed charter pilots are very aware that the definition of a day off changes totally in the Sub Part Q Jar Ops proposals.
As no local nights are included at all in the proposal, just a set number of hours off, experienced pilots will be very cagey about accepting anything other than a very attractive contract with extremely strong provisions to ensure a good quality of life no matter what FTL's are in place.
Otherwise why move???
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