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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 00:32
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Highest paying positions

Hello fellow drivers,

looking for the highest paid positions in the World for an EU citizen with an AW139 IR license. No instructor and/or management duties, just as a line pilot. Safe operators please, I do not intent to risk my life, just to save a good sum while I do not have attachments that force me to settle.
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Hello fellow drivers,

looking for the highest paid positions in the World for an EU citizen with an AW139 IR license. No instructor and/or management duties, just as a line pilot. Safe operators please, I do not intent to risk my life, just to save a good sum while I do not have attachments that force me to settle.


Try Shell, Brunei
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 05:00
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Try Shell, Brunei
its Brunei Shell, but I would suggest don’t bother because there are a number of other qualities they look’ for over and above seeking the highest salary in the world!
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Too many variables to answer your question..........

1.) Do you want to tour 6/6 etc?

2.) Do you want a resident position?

3.) Do benefits matter, health, education, etc?

4.) Do you have a family?

5.) Length of contract, potential non-resident status?

6.) Tax implications after contract is finished?

7.) Can you deal with extended “compound” living?

Etc, Etc

BSP would be one of the top if you want to live somewhere full time and sock away some cash. It’s great for married guys with young kids. They used to pay for University for your kids after x number of years service back in the day which was great. Not sure if that deal is still on the table under the new pay structure though? For the most part, the guys that work there are all highly skilled, qualified, educated and connected. Most have training backgrounds and are not your typical A to B Bus Drivers. You don’t get a job with BSP because of luck

I wouldn’t let the Middle East dissuade you if you are purely looking to sock away cash. I know of two AW139 pilots in the past year that have been picked up by one of the major operators over there in full resident positions. They are paid slightly higher than the BSP AW139 drivers but have much more “challenging” everyday living conditions..........think compound.

If you are good at living on the cheap on your time off some of the touring positions can get you about 60% of the way there to the big $$ resident positions. $120K USD after tax dollars is available for touring AW139 line drivers right now. Your time off burn rate will be the final factor in how quickly she adds up.

Hope this helps a bit........

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Mountain rescue offers some of the highest paid helo jobs. I mean look at the Andes or the Alps - very high....................
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... and I‘m cruising around at sea level
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They used to pay for University for your kids after x number of years service back in the day
Not sure that was ever true. They used to pay for boarding school fees outside of Brunei but that ceased around 2009 when their (the pilots and engineers) pay structure changed from mirroring the Shell system to becoming local pay plus some extra elements (BSP pilots are not Shell staff, but are directly employed by BSP, which is not itself a Shell operated company).
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I was offered a position with BSP flying the 139 a few years ago and was surprised at the relatively low salary. The whole package might make it attractive for families with accommodation and schooling provided but as a single person it just was not worth it.
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I was offered a position with BSP flying the 139 a few years ago and was surprised at the relatively low salary. The whole package might make it attractive for families with accommodation and schooling provided but as a single person it just was not worth it.
5 years ago it was about 220k BND (160k USD now) I believe. No idea what the current offer is.
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I believe Silkway is also up there amongst the top ranked as far as pay goes.
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I was offered a position with BSP flying the 139 a few years ago and was surprised at the relatively low salary
Yeah, those 45nm sectors in day VFR really make you question that six figure tax free salary....,
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Yeah - wouldn't get out of bed for less than £130k let alone fly straight and level VFR all day..........................
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Yeah, those 45nm sectors in day VFR really make you question that six figure tax free salary....,
I fully understand where you are coming from, but if difficulty and risk were the sole basis of reward, I could have retired after a few of my “mid career” jobs.

Seriously, as pilots, we have to point out to the ignorant that we often do not earn our money on the easy days, maybe not even on the normal days....... I’ve heard it described as “I don’t get paid this well for what I do. I get paid this well for what I can do, and what I’ve done learning to do what I can do.” (I’d add: “and knowing what I can’t do”)

The less experienced pilots push on, when the more experienced pilots turn back. The most experienced pilots are drinking coffee in the Planning Room, wondering why anyone would take off, given the current conditions.
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Yeah, those 45nm sectors in day VFR really make you question that six figure tax free salary....,
I fully understand where you are coming from, but if difficulty and risk were the sole basis of reward, I could have retired after a few of my “mid career” jobs.
I understand where you are coming from too, but my comment was a jibe at the poster who suggested the salary was low. Having spent 8 years in a management role in that organisation - directly involved in the selection and recruitment of new pilors - I think I’m entitled to the odd facetious comment.
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I understand where you are coming from too, but my comment was a jibe at the poster who suggested the salary was low. Having spent 8 years in a management role in that organisation - directly involved in the selection and recruitment of new pilors - I think I’m entitled to the odd facetious comment.
Indeed. Understood. Completely agree.
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In short BSP do not pay what they used to. Also I think this person wants to stay in Europe. If you're prepared to work then yacht based equal time operations are the better pay, once you combine it with some freelance work in time off. Dubai air wing like 139 rated people, pay ok but tips are better I hear.... Offshore starting to pick up again, also some onshore corporate 139 operations in Europe quite well paid. That said the good operators are still giving type ratings to the right candidate subject to bonding afterwards but I think it's worth the effort. You can earn a salary over 120k in the UK alone so think carefully.
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You can earn a salary over 120k in the UK alone so think carefully.
Let me know where this is please and I can give up all the extra sh1t I have to do.
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I understand where you are coming from too, but my comment was a jibe at the poster who suggested the salary was low. Having spent 8 years in a management role in that organisation - directly involved in the selection and recruitment of new pilors - I think I’m entitled to the odd facetious comment.
The salary was low as far as I was concerned. I was earning more than that when I applied and only applied because I (like many others) thought that the remuneration would be far more. I was also working a 2 week on / 2 week off roster and the BSP job meant moving to Brunei on a permanent roster. Having visited Brunei to have a look and stay with military friends there I was not impressed with the country or culture and knew that I would not be happy there.

Hedski is correct about UK pay cyclic. I should know.
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Re BSP. I interviewed for them several years ago and when I told them the salary I was earning at the time which was my expected salary minimum for a move anywhere else there was a slight pause and awkward silence. They did not advance my application further.
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Re BSP. I interviewed for them several years ago and when I told them the salary I was earning at the time which was my expected salary minimum for a move anywhere else there was a slight pause and awkward silence. They did not advance my application further.
Now I’m intrigued. I hired two BHL senior S92 captains at the top of the scale, one a TRE and one a Chief Pilot, with Scatsta allowance, on about 127k GBP gross, and they got at least that net. When I left in 2013 we were offering 220K BND net to 139 pilots (plus free housing and utilities etc)t. Where were you working when you applied?
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