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Old 10th Mar 2011, 21:28
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Phil, why not get your new pals to make the courts lock the ****ers up for a lot longer?

That will make Sid's work a lot more worthwhile.
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Phil might just have a point..................not really
try hand flying a Citation 1 on an ILS one dark winter evening with a very low base and vis and a strong crosswind.(Single crew private jet) Or a Malibu jetprop.
I have tried the things he mentions, although not in Malibu, and to be honest it is a piece of cake. I can only deduce that he is is not good enough to be doing what Silsoe and the like do. Keep up with the good work chaps.

Phil, do you work for the East Anglia Daily Times?
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Oh goody, Phil's back.
You beat me to it.

Welcome back phil where have you been, catching up on chopper coppers and police camera action. Which means your all geared up to give every one a piece of your experience.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 09:52
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Phil, I have an ATPL/IR Aeroplanes as well as helicopters. You don't know what you are talking about. Long distances are the same as short distances, the only difference is the time involved. In fact you have more time to prepare for the approach on a long distance flight. So do crosswinds not affect helicopters on an ILS? Of course they do and you have to be able to hand fly it as well. Look in the mirror at the person who writes your posts, read them again, and again. Conclude that you are bitter, twisted and factually incorrect. In my 6 years on Merseyside ASU, I was involved in many pursuits, not a single one involved a 'chase me'. Most involved criminals who were desperate to get away and had carried out some nasty crimes.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 14:34
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Sale & leaseback

Sale & leaseback could make a lot of sense if your helicopter might be appropriated by another party with what you might consider to be inadequate compensation in a year or two.
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While we wait for Phil (McCavity) to give us the next round of his observations, can I take us back to his first post with us;

Surely this cannot be the SilsoeSid that was having a go at the 'Round the World' gyro attempt a few years back because there was some free flying involved via sponsorship?
Can I point out to him that the person involved was on a full Warrant Officers wage along with higher rate flying pay, while doing this expedition. Also the many support staff, again some 'with rank' and on higher rates of flying pay, were using offices and hangarage on an active military airfield, during normal working hours... gratis.

I wonder if he (Phil) finds this sort of thing a good use of taxpayers money. Yes the expedition was sponsored, wages, accommodation, services etc were not.

If Phil (waste of) Space had any cojones, I'd like him to go onto the military thread and argue the existence of the Red Arrows.
But then again Pigs might fly.....Oh yes, they do and get paid for it, which is what Pile is so envious of in the first place
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 19:20
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Thanks SS, although we know from other threads that Phil (in the) space doesn't approve of levity. Couldn't resist, I'm afraid . . .
Pile
To find out what grade of piles you may have, take a quick Piles Quiz - although I'm not sure what the treatment might be to stop this recurrent pain in the a*se?!
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Old 12th Mar 2011, 07:17
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Zorab,

Well done - I think you have identified the problem -
It is indeed due to Haemorrhoids - Grade 2 to 4 it would seem

One of the common causes of Haemorrhoids ( according to your excellent Piles Quiz link ) is prolonged diarrhoea.

He's certainly spouted enough $**t across various forums recently to have demonstrated this affliction !

There are a number of treatments available, and the best option would appear to be
"Haemorrhoidal Artery Ligation Operation" also known as "HALO".

The procedure involves the use of an Ultrasound device - and Phil - you know where you can shove it

Please don't confuse the treatment with the alternative form of HALO - as this will probably make the condition even worse.

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Nothing, Ops normal.
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 10:18
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Not just the pilotage contract ...

Interesting that it's not just the Acquisition of Pilot Services Framework that expires at the end of this month, (No extension on the register) but that the contract for "Consultancy Support for National Police Air Support Strategy" - (which was been extended by 1 year from 31/03/10) also runs out on the same date.

Just a day before 1/4/11 when ( according to some ) the NPAS roll out will commence - Yeah Right - Of course it will

No expert HO Aviation Adviser for a while now since OD moved on, and now potentially no Pilot Services Framework, No Consultancy Support, no Cleveland ASU, and who knows how many other units considering whether to opt out of NPAS

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Old 17th Mar 2011, 19:27
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Opt out! Hush your mouth Coconutty, that's 'conchy talk'

Weren't we told earlier that opting out wasn't an option, as decreed by the mighty fist of the Home Secretary?

SOUTH Yorkshire’s Chief Constable has expressed his frustration that his force does not yet know whether it is to retain its helicopter.
Chf Con Hughes said: “We have not yet resolved our air support issues. I am finding it frustrating that we can’t immediately reassure the people of South Yorkshire that they are going to get an effective air support unit.

“While some people think a helicopter is a luxury, most people understand a helicopter provides a really good life-saving service for the people of South Yorkshire.

What I like is;
NPAS Chf Con Alex Marshall said: “While the current service is capable of doing its day job, artificial boundaries have meant that helicopters are restricted to operating within their own force area.

“A national, borderless service will ensure effective coverage of urban and rural areas.“
If that's what NPAS think is going on presently, why do I seem to constantly find myself out of the force area at 4am where its very dark. With the NPAS opinion, I should always be over lit areas...but that simply isn't the case.
A listen out on London Info might give an idea of what's really going on out there around the country. But if you're not up at these times of the day, you'll not be aware!

'Capable of doing it's day job', quite an insulting phrase to use IMHO!
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Olympics - Just a thought around the UK

Just a thought, as there have already been various meetings about the olympics etc, and who will be covering the events from the air.

What happens back in the home force area?

Are the various military SAR bases such as Boulmer and Leconfield covering for misper searches etc, as they dont cost the police forces anything to call in while the force helicopter is away watching the Olympic crowds?

Just curious?

Keep up the good work everyone
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 08:19
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I would imagine the Skycopter would be doing most of the 'coverage from the air'.



Do you really forsee a big requirement for air support? Besides, surely the various forces would cover the events happening around their areas?



One minute slagging us all off, the next, "Keep up the good work everyone".
Never seen a Lynx jock digging a trench, but nice to see that you learnt, 'When in a hole, stop digging'.
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Perhaps the Met need extra coverage, they don't have enough helicopters now do they?
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 10:24
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T-PAC tactics or a tactical stop?

Aye, enough of the gardening (digging) Silsey.

I wonder if the UK units including Sleepy Hollow will add music to their pursuits after seeing this

Outstanding T-PAC tactics.

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Old 18th Mar 2011, 11:08
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And here's me thinking this thread was about UK Police Helicopters !
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Silsoesid lighten up! Blimey, before we know it you'll be denying the Global Eagle thread your chum Phil referred to earlier, never existed.

Here's another Police related video, I think it's about how we will be treated later!

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Old 19th Mar 2011, 22:28
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Gone a bit quiet in here

Thinking ahead to when the NPAS National Control Room kicks in, and spurred on by a conversation with a charming young lady

in the BTP London Control Room, that I was party to today, I started wondering whether everyone will need additional training
to understand some of the jargon used in their neck of the woods, ready for when they start despatching the National fleet :


" .......Control to AIR 99 :
If it’s not too Mork & Mindy, and the David Gowers aren't too heavy,

Can you take a Butcher’s Hook on the A38 –
Report that a Saucepan Lid has had a few too many Nelson Mandelas
in the Battle Cruiser and has Half Inched a Danny Marr.
He’s driving the Pete Tong direction down a one way Plate of Meat,
and being followed by an FTPU ( Frog & Toad Policing Unit ) Jam Jar.
Get your Aris out there PDQ - and let us know when you have Mince Pies on."




Last edited by Coconutty; 19th Mar 2011 at 22:33. Reason: To add : the reference to "Aris" applies equally to 902 crews !
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Would you Adam and Eve it?
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" .......Control to AIR 99 :
If it’s not too Mork & Mindy, and the David Gowers aren't too heavy,
Can you take a Butcher’s Hook on the A38 –
Report that a Saucepan Lid has had a few too many Nelson Mandelas
in the Battle Cruiser and has Half Inched a Danny Marr.
He’s driving the Pete Tong direction down a one way Plate of Meat,
and being followed by an FTPU ( Frog & Toad Policing Unit ) Jam Jar.
Get your Aris out there PDQ - and let us know when you have Mince Pies on."
Can someone please decipher this for the Norverners amongst us, we speak proper English up 'ere tha nos.
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