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Hey,
I'm planning on applying for licensed helicopter engineer apprenticeships this year but i require as much work experience or just experience in a maintenance environment as i have no formal training.
Does anyone know of any opportunities? I'm currently talking to a good few companies about visiting them etc but i thought it relevant to ask on here.
Thanks in advance!
I'm planning on applying for licensed helicopter engineer apprenticeships this year but i require as much work experience or just experience in a maintenance environment as i have no formal training.
Does anyone know of any opportunities? I'm currently talking to a good few companies about visiting them etc but i thought it relevant to ask on here.
Thanks in advance!
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AgustaWestland at Yeovil had recently closed entries to their apprenticeship for the ones starting in September (first year is NVQ engineering so therefore start in Sept)
I'd like to start Glam Uni aircraft maintenance degree in cooperation with ICAT/Barry College in 2009 and AWs 'gap year' one year work experience sounds good. I'll see if and when I start the course.
I'm embarking on helo pilot career with interest in maintenance as well as a 'backup' career at least. I don't want rat race job and want to be involved with aviation even if I had to lose medical.
Also, if I'm doing some crappy roster somewhere far away, I could as well make use of the free time doing some maintenance.
But that's just wild imagination at the mo.
I suspect you might have to do fixed wing turbine course/degree and specialise in helicopters after that. Engines ain't that much different.
Anyway, check out AW's UK website for the apprenticeships, what's in and wait till next year, and have a look at 'engineers' subsection of PPRUNE. This is mostly for and about pilots and flying.
Eurocopter do some apprenticeships or rather, work experience for folks with part 66 exams. Since you ain't got anything, probably just some mechanic experience, AW's apprenticeship is by far best shot.
I tried to find out more info on this issue, but all companies want experienced, fully licensed A&Ps, part 66 mechs etc..
I'd like to start Glam Uni aircraft maintenance degree in cooperation with ICAT/Barry College in 2009 and AWs 'gap year' one year work experience sounds good. I'll see if and when I start the course.
I'm embarking on helo pilot career with interest in maintenance as well as a 'backup' career at least. I don't want rat race job and want to be involved with aviation even if I had to lose medical.
Also, if I'm doing some crappy roster somewhere far away, I could as well make use of the free time doing some maintenance.
But that's just wild imagination at the mo.
I suspect you might have to do fixed wing turbine course/degree and specialise in helicopters after that. Engines ain't that much different.
Anyway, check out AW's UK website for the apprenticeships, what's in and wait till next year, and have a look at 'engineers' subsection of PPRUNE. This is mostly for and about pilots and flying.
Eurocopter do some apprenticeships or rather, work experience for folks with part 66 exams. Since you ain't got anything, probably just some mechanic experience, AW's apprenticeship is by far best shot.
I tried to find out more info on this issue, but all companies want experienced, fully licensed A&Ps, part 66 mechs etc..
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Hey,
What is your plan i didnt quite understand it apart from you want to do a " gap year" at AW. Do you think it would be more worth while doing say a 2 year course where i end with my EASA 66? Will places like Eurocopter take on someone who has there EASA 66 two year foundation course even though theyve done all there study on planks?
I had a look at the apprenticeships at AW this year and they just seemed to be maintenance work on transmission which could get boring and repetative. who knows! Ill have another look at them, but my options and oppertunities do seem to be very thin on the ground!!!
What is your plan i didnt quite understand it apart from you want to do a " gap year" at AW. Do you think it would be more worth while doing say a 2 year course where i end with my EASA 66? Will places like Eurocopter take on someone who has there EASA 66 two year foundation course even though theyve done all there study on planks?
I had a look at the apprenticeships at AW this year and they just seemed to be maintenance work on transmission which could get boring and repetative. who knows! Ill have another look at them, but my options and oppertunities do seem to be very thin on the ground!!!
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do you mean that course in Newcastle? I know there's some 2 year course for part 66.
Well, make up your mind. It's your life and your time.
All I'm saying is that from what I know, only Air Services in Perth do specialised helicopter maintenance for people with skills already - without degree 'form'.
Then ICAT/Barry College do theory modules for helo fixing.
I thought that BSc in aircraft maintenance at Glamorgan Uni was with option of specialising in helicopters. Their websites tates all subclasses or B1 licenses.
What it doesn't say, but only their prospectus is that at the mo, they only do turbite planes as default and other courses are not fulltime but in cooperation with maintenance companies that have mechanics who need/want to be licensed and get more skills.
IF I start something in 2009, it'll be this 3 yr Glam Uni course as it'll get me full student funding and grants I need. I'm EU national living in the UK since 2004 so I'll qualify for sure. Also, it'll mean I'll only need 2 years of experience to be fully licensed. Unlike someone working from the bottom up, doing theory exams for p66 and needing 5 years of exp to be fully licensed.
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So you did have a look into AW's apprenticeship before deadline?
So you decided it's not good enough for you as the route you considered included cleaning and servicing transmissions?
That's like someone after studying medicine wanting to go straight to heart transplants after cutting cadavers during school and occasional 'stitching up' of small wounds.
SOBER UP!
I ain't no dreamer. You seem to be. Don't you think only F1's worth your look regarding cars? You stated you don't have formal training and would like to start apprenticeship. So I presume you don't have any aviation maintenance experience.
Experience is experience. All the wannabe jet jockeys don't get job as 777 Captain straight after school. Some who are picked for FO training or who could afford to blow dosh on a320 type rating, might get FO job on smaller jets. Or, some form of cadetship.Does it mean it's not worth it?
I'm embarking on heli pilot career. I won't get hired by 'regular' company until I'm on 1000 TT. Maybe in Canada with 600TT but if I'm already collecting hours after training, I'd just wait till 1000. Instructing is the only way up. And then, probably offshore. Something I don't fancy that much either.
Would I quit all just because that's the way it could be done?
I can't count with second pilot place unless I got US papers with some instructing or JAA IR(H) which is horrendously expensive. Even with FAA IR(H). IF I'd like to get SIC job before 1000 hours. Then, with mostly piston, I might have to go offshore anyway as then I'd need 500TT turbines. Etc etc.
Wanting to be pilot with very limited resources, especially helicopter is hard.
Look at your maintenance plans as something considerably easier to achieve.
Next look in almost year's time. Thin? Consider yourself lucky that you can get on some structured training. Whether FdSc, BSc or apprenticeship.
If I had long-term plans to live in the UK, I'd go for AW's apprenticeship in a hearbeat. You get paid, you get trained, all with choppers from the scratch.
It's also networking from the beginning.
Listen to what the companies offer you and post question in engineering section.
Yeah, btw, Eurocopter. If you graduate from aero eng designing route, you might get nice 'graduate placement' or even gap year placement.
Naturally, you'd have to be fluent in English and French or English and German.
They also do 'take off programme' where you'd have to speak French, German and Spanish fluently for the various locations of the programme.
If you want apprenticeship without any previous training, I don't think they'd offer you something. Especially without other fluent languages.
All my words are my opinion and to give you idea or decide about your desired direction. You don't seem to be fully 'hooked' but picky and hesitant. That's not good sign.
Well, make up your mind. It's your life and your time.
All I'm saying is that from what I know, only Air Services in Perth do specialised helicopter maintenance for people with skills already - without degree 'form'.
Then ICAT/Barry College do theory modules for helo fixing.
I thought that BSc in aircraft maintenance at Glamorgan Uni was with option of specialising in helicopters. Their websites tates all subclasses or B1 licenses.
What it doesn't say, but only their prospectus is that at the mo, they only do turbite planes as default and other courses are not fulltime but in cooperation with maintenance companies that have mechanics who need/want to be licensed and get more skills.
IF I start something in 2009, it'll be this 3 yr Glam Uni course as it'll get me full student funding and grants I need. I'm EU national living in the UK since 2004 so I'll qualify for sure. Also, it'll mean I'll only need 2 years of experience to be fully licensed. Unlike someone working from the bottom up, doing theory exams for p66 and needing 5 years of exp to be fully licensed.
MAN,
So you did have a look into AW's apprenticeship before deadline?
So you decided it's not good enough for you as the route you considered included cleaning and servicing transmissions?
That's like someone after studying medicine wanting to go straight to heart transplants after cutting cadavers during school and occasional 'stitching up' of small wounds.
SOBER UP!
I ain't no dreamer. You seem to be. Don't you think only F1's worth your look regarding cars? You stated you don't have formal training and would like to start apprenticeship. So I presume you don't have any aviation maintenance experience.
Experience is experience. All the wannabe jet jockeys don't get job as 777 Captain straight after school. Some who are picked for FO training or who could afford to blow dosh on a320 type rating, might get FO job on smaller jets. Or, some form of cadetship.Does it mean it's not worth it?
I'm embarking on heli pilot career. I won't get hired by 'regular' company until I'm on 1000 TT. Maybe in Canada with 600TT but if I'm already collecting hours after training, I'd just wait till 1000. Instructing is the only way up. And then, probably offshore. Something I don't fancy that much either.
Would I quit all just because that's the way it could be done?
I can't count with second pilot place unless I got US papers with some instructing or JAA IR(H) which is horrendously expensive. Even with FAA IR(H). IF I'd like to get SIC job before 1000 hours. Then, with mostly piston, I might have to go offshore anyway as then I'd need 500TT turbines. Etc etc.
Wanting to be pilot with very limited resources, especially helicopter is hard.
Look at your maintenance plans as something considerably easier to achieve.
ll have another look at them, but my options and oppertunities do seem to be very thin on the ground!!!
If I had long-term plans to live in the UK, I'd go for AW's apprenticeship in a hearbeat. You get paid, you get trained, all with choppers from the scratch.
It's also networking from the beginning.
Listen to what the companies offer you and post question in engineering section.
Yeah, btw, Eurocopter. If you graduate from aero eng designing route, you might get nice 'graduate placement' or even gap year placement.
Naturally, you'd have to be fluent in English and French or English and German.
They also do 'take off programme' where you'd have to speak French, German and Spanish fluently for the various locations of the programme.
If you want apprenticeship without any previous training, I don't think they'd offer you something. Especially without other fluent languages.
All my words are my opinion and to give you idea or decide about your desired direction. You don't seem to be fully 'hooked' but picky and hesitant. That's not good sign.
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Ok ok, firstly id count yourself lucky that you can fly commercially, i did all the research, was ready to start training but i couldnt pass the medical because of my eyesight. Thats reality and im very much a realist.
My view of that AW apprenticeship is purely based on what guys in the field said about it and i dont know anything so i take their word. They said an NVQ wasnt worth the paper its written on and i didnt want to risk wasting 4 years when im already 23 doing something potentially pointless.
Im in contact with AW and well see what comes up, but id just rather get on an apprenticeship and if that fails ill be on a course to get myself an EASA 66 and two years on the job and qualified. hopefully. age seems to be factor so im panicing about that too be to honest.
I want to do it more than anything, but im just very concious of not wasting years doing something that points me in the wrong direction, so im being cautious. Could be wrong way to go about it but hey, ill have to learn from my mistakes.
You have an option to fly which i would give anything to have, so maybe you can look at it with a bit more of a " take a chance" outlook, i dont know. Im grateful for your help and your view, but dont put me down as a snob who wont accept certain oppertunities as there "below me", id take any apprenticeship in any part of world right now!
My view of that AW apprenticeship is purely based on what guys in the field said about it and i dont know anything so i take their word. They said an NVQ wasnt worth the paper its written on and i didnt want to risk wasting 4 years when im already 23 doing something potentially pointless.
Im in contact with AW and well see what comes up, but id just rather get on an apprenticeship and if that fails ill be on a course to get myself an EASA 66 and two years on the job and qualified. hopefully. age seems to be factor so im panicing about that too be to honest.
I want to do it more than anything, but im just very concious of not wasting years doing something that points me in the wrong direction, so im being cautious. Could be wrong way to go about it but hey, ill have to learn from my mistakes.
You have an option to fly which i would give anything to have, so maybe you can look at it with a bit more of a " take a chance" outlook, i dont know. Im grateful for your help and your view, but dont put me down as a snob who wont accept certain oppertunities as there "below me", id take any apprenticeship in any part of world right now!
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can this thread be swapped to engineers section?
Well, I'll surely fly on PPL level. Don't know about obstacle for commercial medical. At least not FAA or UK CAA eyesight issue. Could theoretically be.
I'm just starting. With only fraction of total funding required.
Yeah, I'm 25. Maybe around my 30th birthday, I'd get first proper commercial job. If all goes 'smoothly'. How's that for a wait and already spending all my savings from past 4 years?
How about that for getting first job? Half my life gone already.
Well, as an engineer, it's not so much about company's view at your age rather than your plans and goals to have a career by certain age, I presume.
You're 23 and panicking? What were you doing until now?
If I grew up in the UK or US and were able to save up money from younger age and get loans or remortgage house or whatever, I won't start with aviation career plans at 24. Not because it wasn't in my blood, it wasn't realistic before. Now it is, but with such sacrifices it's depressing.
Are you really sure you're outside the limits for eyesight for PPL flying as well?
IF you're just outside limits, I've read about people doing flying in the US and when they're ATPL, they will go straight to 'medical renewal' limits instead of initial limits, which are touch stricter.
Well, it's very tight this way, but there were posts on pprune about this.
Though it's for someone with lots of dosh to jump through such hoops.
http://careers.whl.co.uk/training.htm
shows three different ab initio apprenticeships.
Dunno why you thought/knew about transmissions only. Frankly, I read it two weeks ago and didn't remember that one (of 3) that's specifically for transmissions.
Alas, if you have 'heli production' programme on EH101 and Lynx where you're supposed to be in dif depts, then what's problem with that one?
After all, it's with big company, in the field, experience.
They wouldn't do this if they don't want to nurture youngsters to stay with company, would they?
Did the guys (whoever) at AW or another co tell you about this one?
Yes, since they'd pick guys at square 1, they naturally want a person to have BTEC eng cert to start with. No bias in that. Or do you want to stick finger somewher you shouldn't and get fried - literally? It's not good example, but..
'NVQ not worth paper', OK. They might have some parts (pt NVQ) of it not everyone fancies, but how could apprenticeship with major UK/EU company be pointing in wrong direction? You can always do the part 66 theory by distance study. That's how some folks do it when in employment already.
DID YOU HAVE A LOOK AT THE LINK ABOVE BEFORE?
I didn't talk to 'guys in the field', but if I could not make it as commercial pilot and couldn't find any small company that would take me up, I'd sign up before the deadline.
I don't know if you researched the FW turbine mechanic courses. If the heli eng 'market' is so small and lots of basic turbine maintenance stuff is the same, one just has to go with the flow in education. Unless scoring apprenticeship with heli eng company.
Yes, starting from zero IS easier in the US. Their A&P courses can be split into their parts, airframe and powerplant. One year for each. Downside of US mechanics is that is much lower pay. More companies, more variety, more servicing. Still not convenient without passport and extra dosh.
Did you have a look at UK ATPL theory? Lots of stuff rotary minded/oriented pilots have to do that's about airliners. Much more wasted time cramming the stuff. And they still have to do it until there's something better.
I'm just starting. With only fraction of total funding required.
Yeah, I'm 25. Maybe around my 30th birthday, I'd get first proper commercial job. If all goes 'smoothly'. How's that for a wait and already spending all my savings from past 4 years?
How about that for getting first job? Half my life gone already.
Well, as an engineer, it's not so much about company's view at your age rather than your plans and goals to have a career by certain age, I presume.
You're 23 and panicking? What were you doing until now?
If I grew up in the UK or US and were able to save up money from younger age and get loans or remortgage house or whatever, I won't start with aviation career plans at 24. Not because it wasn't in my blood, it wasn't realistic before. Now it is, but with such sacrifices it's depressing.
Are you really sure you're outside the limits for eyesight for PPL flying as well?
IF you're just outside limits, I've read about people doing flying in the US and when they're ATPL, they will go straight to 'medical renewal' limits instead of initial limits, which are touch stricter.
Well, it's very tight this way, but there were posts on pprune about this.
Though it's for someone with lots of dosh to jump through such hoops.
http://careers.whl.co.uk/training.htm
shows three different ab initio apprenticeships.
Dunno why you thought/knew about transmissions only. Frankly, I read it two weeks ago and didn't remember that one (of 3) that's specifically for transmissions.
Alas, if you have 'heli production' programme on EH101 and Lynx where you're supposed to be in dif depts, then what's problem with that one?
After all, it's with big company, in the field, experience.
They wouldn't do this if they don't want to nurture youngsters to stay with company, would they?
Did the guys (whoever) at AW or another co tell you about this one?
Yes, since they'd pick guys at square 1, they naturally want a person to have BTEC eng cert to start with. No bias in that. Or do you want to stick finger somewher you shouldn't and get fried - literally? It's not good example, but..
'NVQ not worth paper', OK. They might have some parts (pt NVQ) of it not everyone fancies, but how could apprenticeship with major UK/EU company be pointing in wrong direction? You can always do the part 66 theory by distance study. That's how some folks do it when in employment already.
DID YOU HAVE A LOOK AT THE LINK ABOVE BEFORE?
I didn't talk to 'guys in the field', but if I could not make it as commercial pilot and couldn't find any small company that would take me up, I'd sign up before the deadline.
I don't know if you researched the FW turbine mechanic courses. If the heli eng 'market' is so small and lots of basic turbine maintenance stuff is the same, one just has to go with the flow in education. Unless scoring apprenticeship with heli eng company.
Yes, starting from zero IS easier in the US. Their A&P courses can be split into their parts, airframe and powerplant. One year for each. Downside of US mechanics is that is much lower pay. More companies, more variety, more servicing. Still not convenient without passport and extra dosh.
Did you have a look at UK ATPL theory? Lots of stuff rotary minded/oriented pilots have to do that's about airliners. Much more wasted time cramming the stuff. And they still have to do it until there's something better.
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Have you thought about contacting the likes of Bristow, Bond or CHC up in Aberdeen ? I'm pretty sure they have been running apprenticeships for the last couple of years and plan to run some more. I think that the guys come out at the end of it with an EASA part 66 "A" Licence and then are put forward for respective B1/B2, all the while gaining experience on their respective line/base maintenance operations on medium/heavy helicopters.
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I mayb e able to get my ppl, i get re-assesed in feb. I can tlive off a PPL though! obviously. If im allowed ill be getting it, but itll havw to be on the back of an engineering wage.
Ive been professional musicain and teacher so far, but im bored of it and this is the way i want to go with my life now.
AW are defiently a great company and yes it could make sense to work there (on apprenticeship) and then during your own time get you EASA 66. Then i guess id move into another company and become a licensed engineer.
I want to gain type ratings so i can work abroad too. Im loking at all options, however ive missed the AW now untill next year, so ill push for apprenticeships. If that fails then ill try and get work exp. during this year and then re-apply for AW/apprenticeships or maybe an aero course with the EASA 66 included. Do you know if you have to do a specific Helicopter course? the few i briefly looked at seem to just teach you on planks.
What do you think?
Ive been professional musicain and teacher so far, but im bored of it and this is the way i want to go with my life now.
AW are defiently a great company and yes it could make sense to work there (on apprenticeship) and then during your own time get you EASA 66. Then i guess id move into another company and become a licensed engineer.
I want to gain type ratings so i can work abroad too. Im loking at all options, however ive missed the AW now untill next year, so ill push for apprenticeships. If that fails then ill try and get work exp. during this year and then re-apply for AW/apprenticeships or maybe an aero course with the EASA 66 included. Do you know if you have to do a specific Helicopter course? the few i briefly looked at seem to just teach you on planks.
What do you think?
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Yer ill defiently be applying for the apprenticeships with the "big boys" in scotchland!! not sure what chance im going to have with no exp. or relevant qualies and being 23 vs. 16 year olds!!
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Yer ill defiently be applying for the apprenticeships with the "big boys" in scotchland!! not sure what chance im going to have with no exp. or relevant qualies and being 23 vs. 16 year olds!!
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Aberdeen next stop? :-)
'relevant qualities'?
Well, they'd have to assess it. Don't go looking for place to start off thinking you're not worth it. Be more American, try to sell yourself.
I know that being teenager and 20-something isn't exactly the same, but hey, look at it from the brighter side. Teenagers are more volatile.
You know what you want out of your life. You have passion for aviation that has always been there even when you started with another career and now coming back to the origin. Fact that you can only be PPL pilot sucks, but then, trying to break in as mechanic shows that you really like aviation and take the 'second best' there is.
Truth is I didn't contact CHC Scotia or research their offers if there are any official ones on website.
Guys here just mentioned it's possible. So off you go. Yeovil is closer to London, but it's also ages till 'next time'.
Just try to look that you really want to have career in the UK or at least with the company :-D
I used to do arts and play violin as a boy, did ballroom dancing. All because I like it. But didn't consider it as career pathway (unlike my mother). I know what you mean. Liking something just isn't enough for a career.
I disliked the word 'career' my mom used to say, imagining me finishing the Uni 'back home' and working in some posh office job. Well, didn't happen.
But once I realised I can make my life in and around aviation true, not just occasional paragliding or ultralight joyflights, the word career isn't negative in that sense.
You see? Guys in the know also recommend apprenticeship with rotary company because of learning on the go, getting paid and getting papers few years after. I'm sure it's matter of time for you should you try hard enough.
Well, they'd have to assess it. Don't go looking for place to start off thinking you're not worth it. Be more American, try to sell yourself.
I know that being teenager and 20-something isn't exactly the same, but hey, look at it from the brighter side. Teenagers are more volatile.
You know what you want out of your life. You have passion for aviation that has always been there even when you started with another career and now coming back to the origin. Fact that you can only be PPL pilot sucks, but then, trying to break in as mechanic shows that you really like aviation and take the 'second best' there is.
Truth is I didn't contact CHC Scotia or research their offers if there are any official ones on website.
Guys here just mentioned it's possible. So off you go. Yeovil is closer to London, but it's also ages till 'next time'.
Just try to look that you really want to have career in the UK or at least with the company :-D
I used to do arts and play violin as a boy, did ballroom dancing. All because I like it. But didn't consider it as career pathway (unlike my mother). I know what you mean. Liking something just isn't enough for a career.
I disliked the word 'career' my mom used to say, imagining me finishing the Uni 'back home' and working in some posh office job. Well, didn't happen.
But once I realised I can make my life in and around aviation true, not just occasional paragliding or ultralight joyflights, the word career isn't negative in that sense.
You see? Guys in the know also recommend apprenticeship with rotary company because of learning on the go, getting paid and getting papers few years after. I'm sure it's matter of time for you should you try hard enough.
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Let's make a deal.
Let's make a deal.
We'll meet in Aberdeen in about 5 years' time.
I'd fly a chopper and you'll be fixing my lady (or workhorse, depending on type of helo, naturally) if we end up with the same company.
If we do, I'd rent a helicopter or plane and we'll go for a ride. Take it as a motivation, free flight :-P
I will honour my word.
You might get there sooner, but I doubt I will. My path is long and winding through unknown places.
I should grab Rotorcraft Flying Handbook and finish last few chapters off.
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We'll meet in Aberdeen in about 5 years' time.
I'd fly a chopper and you'll be fixing my lady (or workhorse, depending on type of helo, naturally) if we end up with the same company.
If we do, I'd rent a helicopter or plane and we'll go for a ride. Take it as a motivation, free flight :-P
I will honour my word.
You might get there sooner, but I doubt I will. My path is long and winding through unknown places.
I should grab Rotorcraft Flying Handbook and finish last few chapters off.
Best wishes
