A109 prang Ireland
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A bit harsh
Autosync a bit harsh to say the least to suggest that “a pilot deserves it.”
I can only presume if you didn’t add to the rumour that you don’t know the circumstances.
Maybe the guy just pranged it off the hangar door pushing it in.
You might let us know when you find out.
Then maybe enlighten us after you have discussed the pranging with the pilot involved and then tell us if he deserved it.
The weather wasn’t all that bad but by the sounds of thinks seem to have been well outside your personal limits.
I can only presume if you didn’t add to the rumour that you don’t know the circumstances.
Maybe the guy just pranged it off the hangar door pushing it in.
You might let us know when you find out.
Then maybe enlighten us after you have discussed the pranging with the pilot involved and then tell us if he deserved it.
The weather wasn’t all that bad but by the sounds of thinks seem to have been well outside your personal limits.
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Yesterday's weather wasn't a problem for most of us; I've certainly flown in much worse. A bit turbulent in the lee of hills, but mainly fine clear skies, with the exception of a notable few big CBs of course.
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Obviously,he did'nt have somebody looking out the door for him.
Yes ,it's the third of our "finest" that has superb situational awareness !
By the way,the Weston/Squirell accident is conspicous by it's absence from
the AAIU website.Any reason for this ?
Yes ,it's the third of our "finest" that has superb situational awareness !
By the way,the Weston/Squirell accident is conspicous by it's absence from
the AAIU website.Any reason for this ?
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Yes rumours are correct A109 hit bushes on the way in to landing site took at least 2-3 inches from each tail rotor blade major inspection to be carried out as possibly damage to drive shaft and main transmission. He doesnt get a new one without taking some stick not like Aer corps where it just gets replaced.
Unlucky for the pilot after a long time not flying helis he should have had someone with him.
Unlucky for the pilot after a long time not flying helis he should have had someone with him.
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As always ....WAIT for the report! Redorangedog.....good point. Where is that report from the AAIU???? Maybe we should contact them in the interest of flight safety and find out exactly what did happen to the AS350. To think that a couple of thousand students dual or solo, have attempted to take out that Avgas pump for eons....and along comes Biggles himself and does it all by himself.....and then he's made the Chief Bottle Washer by the Tw$% who owned the heli Has it been at least a year? Must give the lads a shout and ensure that the integrity of the AAIU is indeed intact regarding it's reporting facilities and serving the public as best it can.......which is the whole point in the first instance!!! PM210668, ya feelin' better now?
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I think I encountered this ex- irish army pilot at Sloanes Sywell recently ,told us he hadnt flown rotor in 10 yrs .Was the helicopter EI-DJU ? I think a CHC SAR Capt was also here for training on same aircraft. Unfortunate way to start a new job ,Id say owner was pleased .
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I think I encountered this ex- irish army pilot at Sloanes Sywell recently ,told us he hadnt flown rotor in 10 yrs .Was the helicopter EI-DJU ? I think a CHC SAR Capt was also here for training on same aircraft. Unfortunate way to start a new job ,Id say owner was pleased .
You'd be doing well to get a 737 to clip a few bushes on a helipad in the butthole of Tipperary
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PM 210668 AAIU informs that the report on the AS350 T/R strike is in draft form and will be out mid Jan '07. It seems like an inordinate amount ( A year)of time to process a non injury/non fatal incident regarding the 'how and why' of a T/R striking a fuel pump with loads of eyeballs watching, as oppossed to an R44 crashing with fatalities and no witness to the event other than one seriously injured survivor taking 6 weeks to publish!!! Everyone has a right to question and become critical about any component in the Aviation Industry.
You being a controller should be able to figure that out all by your little ol' lonesome self! PM me if you want to go pvt with this. Otherwise STFU!
You being a controller should be able to figure that out all by your little ol' lonesome self! PM me if you want to go pvt with this. Otherwise STFU!
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HPB at his finest as usual.
Redorangedog, this incident and the pump vs 350 last year are the only mishaps I know of where scaer corps lacked situational awareness. Do tell me what the third was as I can't recall another. (I may have left my brain in my trousers again!! )
Redorangedog, this incident and the pump vs 350 last year are the only mishaps I know of where scaer corps lacked situational awareness. Do tell me what the third was as I can't recall another. (I may have left my brain in my trousers again!! )
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There seems to be a lot of bitching in this thread.
I've always thought the (Southern) Irish were the warmest and friendliest people in the world.
Have some posters got their own agendas?
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pm210668 has just as much right as you or anyone else to express an opinion here.
If there comes a time when someone needs to be told to STFU, I'll do it.
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I've always thought the (Southern) Irish were the warmest and friendliest people in the world.
Have some posters got their own agendas?
HeliPolarBear
pm210668 has just as much right as you or anyone else to express an opinion here.
If there comes a time when someone needs to be told to STFU, I'll do it.
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autosync....you are very correct about aviation and southern Ireland. We do a lot of flying both helicopter and fixwing down the south and other aviators are jealous I think. They would love to see it all come down around us....look at the situation with Kerry Airport Aero Club for instance!
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Rumour has it that two ppl's (helis),want to start a heli flying school there.
I do'nt think they have much experience though.
Maybe they will use some other TRTO,hopefully with some experienced instructors,if they are available.
I do'nt think they have much experience though.
Maybe they will use some other TRTO,hopefully with some experienced instructors,if they are available.
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It is with considerable dismay that I read this unsavoury thread. I am truly abhored that so called professional helicopter pilots would indulge in such mindless abhorent bickering. I am disgusted as a professional Irish pilot that we engage in such ridicule and derisory remarks about fellow colleaugues. What have we become??.. to revel in anothers misfortune is astounding and beneath contempt.
I don't care if the pilot concerned is IAC , Aer Lingus, CHC, Ryanair, Bristow etc, that is merely coincidental here...the issue is that a 'fellow' pilot had an incident and we should all learn from it and aspire to preventing an similar occurance again...rather than casting stones and making disparaging remarks in a juvenile and immature manner. It is absolutely unbecoming of the status and licence that you hold..
Grow up folks and stop letting yourselfs down in the International helicopter community..open your minds and try constructive reasoned debate...
I don't care if the pilot concerned is IAC , Aer Lingus, CHC, Ryanair, Bristow etc, that is merely coincidental here...the issue is that a 'fellow' pilot had an incident and we should all learn from it and aspire to preventing an similar occurance again...rather than casting stones and making disparaging remarks in a juvenile and immature manner. It is absolutely unbecoming of the status and licence that you hold..
Grow up folks and stop letting yourselfs down in the International helicopter community..open your minds and try constructive reasoned debate...
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His old man is waiting to get into the AAIU. To work on it.
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The funny...or not so funny thing about all of the aforementioned posts are the lack of questions being asked.
1) Is the Aircraft O.K?
2) Was there much damage done to the aircraft?
3) Are the pilot and passengers ok ?
4) Does anyone really know what happened? (or is it the usual round of bull****)
4 simple questions concerning the actual incident.
The majority of the previous posts are just character bashing.
Everyone is an armchair pilot and were all brillliant in our own minds, but how many of us have had an accident / incident / Bloody good scare.......
This thread is fine if people feel the need to have a pop at each other however it is not what the title of the thread leads you to believe it is.
In reality it looks like a crowd of bitter jealous little people trying to get one up on each other......
Sad really.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....
1) Is the Aircraft O.K?
2) Was there much damage done to the aircraft?
3) Are the pilot and passengers ok ?
4) Does anyone really know what happened? (or is it the usual round of bull****)
4 simple questions concerning the actual incident.
The majority of the previous posts are just character bashing.
Everyone is an armchair pilot and were all brillliant in our own minds, but how many of us have had an accident / incident / Bloody good scare.......
This thread is fine if people feel the need to have a pop at each other however it is not what the title of the thread leads you to believe it is.
In reality it looks like a crowd of bitter jealous little people trying to get one up on each other......
Sad really.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....