ATPL/CPL Training: Ground School topics
Try www.aft.com.au for aviation theory (A or H) or call Professional Helicopter Services in Melbourne on 03 95807433, Phil does the theory classes and will be able to advise you on your needs. (I think they also offer online theory.)
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JAR-FCL THEORY: Where in the UK?
I want to do my JAR-FCL Commercial Heli license. I have the hours & I'll soon have the medical. How/where can I do the (H) theory ? The CAA's website offers one institution - but it's in Florida. It says that "interim" courses are available at 7 UK locations. But doesn't interim mean learning a load of fixed wing stuff ?
Where's the dedicated (H) Theory ? And is there a Distance Learning version ?
Where's the dedicated (H) Theory ? And is there a Distance Learning version ?
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Sad I know but you are required to learn lots of fixed wing stuff, Bristol, Cabair and Oxford are just a few who offer distance learning, it can be frustrating but thats just the way it is, Sorry
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The old CAA exams mostly comprised fixed wing stuff
and it was thought that under JAA there would be
helicopter specific exams but due to a very small
helicopter question bank it has not been posible.
So yes you must do the fixed wing stuff exept POF(A)
and PERF ,but POF(H) instead. I'm doing mine with
Bristol
and it was thought that under JAA there would be
helicopter specific exams but due to a very small
helicopter question bank it has not been posible.
So yes you must do the fixed wing stuff exept POF(A)
and PERF ,but POF(H) instead. I'm doing mine with
Bristol
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Thanks both. I did speak with Atlantic in Coventry. They are hoping to have a dedicated (H) Theory distance learning course in 5 or 6 weeks.
Maybe I'm naive, but this all seems a bit "amateur night out" - shouldn't our regulatory bodies be doing everything possible to ensure availability of relevant, highest standard training?
Seems bizarre that the sole (H) Theory recommendation from the CAA is in Florida!
Maybe I'm naive, but this all seems a bit "amateur night out" - shouldn't our regulatory bodies be doing everything possible to ensure availability of relevant, highest standard training?
Seems bizarre that the sole (H) Theory recommendation from the CAA is in Florida!
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.....shouldn't our regulatory bodies be doing everything possible to ensure availability of relevant, highest standard training?...
Great one!! Can you imagine what it'll be like when we get the EAA take over? If its just PofF(H) you may be able to get some one on one tuition from the main schools. I'm sure it will all be ready just in time to change over from JAA to EAA. Good Luck!!
Great one!! Can you imagine what it'll be like when we get the EAA take over? If its just PofF(H) you may be able to get some one on one tuition from the main schools. I'm sure it will all be ready just in time to change over from JAA to EAA. Good Luck!!
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Conversion requirements????
Hello there
Quick question.
What is required for a corporate Frozen ATPL (A) with 1k hours all fixed wing need to do to obtain a CPL/ATPL (H). Do I get ATPL credits on Exams etc etc. Would suspect theres going to be some (H) POF exams to do, what about PPl (H) exams???
Hours requirements??
I have an FI rating (Fixed Wing) how many hours involved in FI (rotary).
Sorry to be any trouble, all answers/info gratefully received!
Ta
Quick question.
What is required for a corporate Frozen ATPL (A) with 1k hours all fixed wing need to do to obtain a CPL/ATPL (H). Do I get ATPL credits on Exams etc etc. Would suspect theres going to be some (H) POF exams to do, what about PPl (H) exams???
Hours requirements??
I have an FI rating (Fixed Wing) how many hours involved in FI (rotary).
Sorry to be any trouble, all answers/info gratefully received!
Ta
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I agree,
What with JAR changes etc, best to ask the CAA.
See if they know
What with JAR changes etc, best to ask the CAA.
See if they know
CRM course - I found one !
I have found a one-day single-pilot CRM course, to be run at London Metropolitan University in the next month or so. There are 2 places left (I've booked mine, don't worry!). Anyone up for it ?
Cost - £150 per seat, if all 6 seats get filled we **may** get a reduction.
Current mooted date - 24th June. Yep, got the holiday request in !
What's included ? The first part of the day will be taken up going over HPL, a revision paper for which will have been sent out to be completed prior to the course. The rest of the day desla with single pilot CRM stuff. Dunno what it's all about, ask me AFTER the course.
Date and price is subject to change ( the price subject to change downwards, not up and not guaranteed). The course is being organised by someone other than me, but I'll liaise and put you in touch with them directly should you so wish.
If there's anyone in need of such a course, drop me a PM or email [email protected]. And if more encouragement were needed, perhaps I could suggest a post-course mini London bash ?
Mods - can you make this sticky for 10 days or so ?
Cost - £150 per seat, if all 6 seats get filled we **may** get a reduction.
Current mooted date - 24th June. Yep, got the holiday request in !
What's included ? The first part of the day will be taken up going over HPL, a revision paper for which will have been sent out to be completed prior to the course. The rest of the day desla with single pilot CRM stuff. Dunno what it's all about, ask me AFTER the course.
Date and price is subject to change ( the price subject to change downwards, not up and not guaranteed). The course is being organised by someone other than me, but I'll liaise and put you in touch with them directly should you so wish.
If there's anyone in need of such a course, drop me a PM or email [email protected]. And if more encouragement were needed, perhaps I could suggest a post-course mini London bash ?
Mods - can you make this sticky for 10 days or so ?
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CPL(A) to CPL(H)
I have had a search through the forum, but have not been able to find a definite answer to this.
I have a UK CAA FATPL(A) with associated IR and 426 hours tt. No rotary experience.
I am looking to find out what I would have to do to get a CPL(H) & IR issued and a rough idea of the cost. This would be with a view to trying to get a job as an FO flying offshore ops.
I know that I will have to re-sit principals of flight for helicopters and I believe I will have to 110 hours of rotary flying and subsequent skills test to get the CPL(H). I would then of course have to do an IR. However I have not been able to confirm any of this and seem to get differing answers when I talk to training organisations.
Has anybody tried this with any success and what did you have to do?
I have a UK CAA FATPL(A) with associated IR and 426 hours tt. No rotary experience.
I am looking to find out what I would have to do to get a CPL(H) & IR issued and a rough idea of the cost. This would be with a view to trying to get a job as an FO flying offshore ops.
I know that I will have to re-sit principals of flight for helicopters and I believe I will have to 110 hours of rotary flying and subsequent skills test to get the CPL(H). I would then of course have to do an IR. However I have not been able to confirm any of this and seem to get differing answers when I talk to training organisations.
Has anybody tried this with any success and what did you have to do?
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Hi Snoop,
If you get hold of JAR-FCL 2 (Amd. 2 version), you'll find all the details regarding the credits given in:
Theory credits: Appx 1 to JAR-FCL 2.050, Subpart A, page 1-A-18 will give you a comprehensive list.
Flying credits towards the CPL(H): JAR-FCL 2.155, Subpart D, page 1-D-1, with further references. This crediting is a little complex and dependant upon a number of issues, so you will have to look up your own relevant situation.
The IR(H)-related info you will find in Subpart E.
You can also find the FCL 2 on the JAA website (jaa.nl), select 'JARs' then 'Section 1', and you'll find them all there.
Good luck, and cheers.
If you get hold of JAR-FCL 2 (Amd. 2 version), you'll find all the details regarding the credits given in:
Theory credits: Appx 1 to JAR-FCL 2.050, Subpart A, page 1-A-18 will give you a comprehensive list.
Flying credits towards the CPL(H): JAR-FCL 2.155, Subpart D, page 1-D-1, with further references. This crediting is a little complex and dependant upon a number of issues, so you will have to look up your own relevant situation.
The IR(H)-related info you will find in Subpart E.
You can also find the FCL 2 on the JAA website (jaa.nl), select 'JARs' then 'Section 1', and you'll find them all there.
Good luck, and cheers.
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Whilst I wouldn't want to discourage our fixed wing friends from making the leap to helicopters, they should be aware that a newly qualified CPL(H) with IR doesn't usually mean they're qualified for an entry level job in the helicopter offshore support industry. Oil company aviation advisors are very particular with setting minimum experience requirements for pilots. Even entry level offshore co-pilots usually require at least 500 helicopter flying hours experience in order to meet minimum experience requirements. So if you're planning on getting a CPL(H) then great, but be aware you'll probably need at least a year of solid PIC helicopter flying experience before being looked at for an FO job by most oil companies (unless of course you're prepared to work in Africa where you only need 200 hours helicopter time for some offshore co-pilot jobs).
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CPL Exams
I think you will find that if you use Bristol Groundschool you will have to do the ATPL exams. Still bite the bullet there are good notes and good support. Oh and dont tell anyone but they are quite interesting!! Does that make me SAD!