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Looking good for Whitewell
SASless,
Talking to PC he has flown in to Whitewell, so is aware of the approach required.
You'll have to ask him whilst out on your birthday bash!
Talking to PC he has flown in to Whitewell, so is aware of the approach required.
You'll have to ask him whilst out on your birthday bash!
Ah what a fine bash it was.....enough said at that! Gosh you Preston girls....can't you dance the polka?
Miss Jo now has the MIA/KIA names from the 129th on the cabin doors....felt good to do that bit of work today. We will post some photos on the web site tomorrow.
Miss Jo now has the MIA/KIA names from the 129th on the cabin doors....felt good to do that bit of work today. We will post some photos on the web site tomorrow.
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A birthday bash? And I wasn't invited? I'm all hurt now!
Now I know that that is a misquote from the song New York Girls - and I know what happened to the hero in that delightful ditty. So.... was that your story Sassy?
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Whirls
Gosh you Preston girls....can't you dance the polka?
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Whirls
Whirls,
Last time you and I arranged a liasion, you said you would be the "Red Headed Tart dressed in leather"...alas when you appeared you had dropped the stiletto spike heels in favour of hiking boots which just completely spoiled the effect. Since I am rapidly becoming a geriatric and thus in need of more provocative modes of dress....welll gee, Whirls....hey...hows about showing a fella a good time at Heli-Tech and allow me a rain check for the B-Day Bash? I have passed along your complaint to the event organizer and suggested he had been remiss in overlooking your invitation.
By the way....just like Pierre....down in flames!
Last time you and I arranged a liasion, you said you would be the "Red Headed Tart dressed in leather"...alas when you appeared you had dropped the stiletto spike heels in favour of hiking boots which just completely spoiled the effect. Since I am rapidly becoming a geriatric and thus in need of more provocative modes of dress....welll gee, Whirls....hey...hows about showing a fella a good time at Heli-Tech and allow me a rain check for the B-Day Bash? I have passed along your complaint to the event organizer and suggested he had been remiss in overlooking your invitation.
By the way....just like Pierre....down in flames!
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Trouble is Sassy, is that Whirls ain't in her first flush of youth either and if I'm going to be spending all day on my feet traipsing round Heli-tech, I need to wear some sensible shoes. Sorry!
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Whirls
PS - for those who don't know the song - the hero is rendered incapable through strong liquor given to him by a mother and daughter who then steal his money and clothes!!
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PS - for those who don't know the song - the hero is rendered incapable through strong liquor given to him by a mother and daughter who then steal his money and clothes!!
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Huey 509 will be enroute to Duxford from Blackpool area routing via Manchester VFR corridor...Coventry...near Banbury...to Duxford. Keep an ear tuned for that unique thumping sound.
See you at Heli-Tech.
See you at Heli-Tech.
Thanks to the Duxford/Heli-Tech Folks
The Huey Crew sends their thanks and appreciation to the hard working ground crews of Elite Helicopters and the Duxford bunch for making the Heli-Tech Show such an enjoyable event to attend.
We arrived home near Blackpool to hear from Duxford saying they enjoyed seeing us leave.....wonder if it was something we said?
Hopefully, we will be back time Heli-Tech is on....and later in October for the Duxford Show in October...if they will have us of course.
We arrived home near Blackpool to hear from Duxford saying they enjoyed seeing us leave.....wonder if it was something we said?
Hopefully, we will be back time Heli-Tech is on....and later in October for the Duxford Show in October...if they will have us of course.
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enjoyed seeing us leave
And why not make a meal of it!! It was only a little bit of blade slap
Hope you can repair her chipped nail varnish
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Whirls
Ah yes Whirls....indeed....just a wee bit of blade slap.
No real harm to the nail polish....a bit of touch up with a brush on the outside....and a hit with the spray can inside and she will be like always.
No real harm to the nail polish....a bit of touch up with a brush on the outside....and a hit with the spray can inside and she will be like always.
Good Photos at Flypast November Edition
This month's FlyPast magazine has some really good photos of the Huey....cannot say much for the ones of the Huey Crew!
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All's gone very quiet
SASless all seems to have gone very quiet. Are you still recovering from Heli Tech?
Has Miss Jo been put to bed or are there still places to go people to see?
Has Miss Jo been put to bed or are there still places to go people to see?
Rumours abound!
Rumour has it that Flying Lawyer was seen smiling like a Cheshire Kitty Cat yesterday.....might be he has some photographic evidence of that!
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The Cheshire cat grin has only just worn off! 
Even a ride in the back of such a classic helicopter would have been a thrill, but an invitation from Ralph (SASless) to fly in the left seat on a ferry flight from Blackpool to Redhill was an opportunity not to be missed.
I naturally hoped to be offered some stick time somewhere en route, but the reality was even better - only a few minutes after lifting, Ralph very kindly invited me to fly.
Apart from one hour in an S-76, and a few hours in an Agusta 109, I don’t normally fly anything bigger than Jetrangers and Gazelles so an assurance that the Huey is 'just like a big Jetranger' seemed unlikely - but it’s true.
The venerable Huey has won the respect of thousands of pilots and captured the imagination of even more, and it didn't disappoint. It really is a joy to fly.
As a lowly PPL I’m reticent about making comments about helicopter handling in a forum so rich with experienced professionals from all over the world but, FWIW, I think the Huey handles beautifully. It's a stable helicopter which ‘goes where you point it’ and stays there, but it's also surprisingly manoeuvrable – surprising to me anyway.
A gentle initial input to see what happens turns out to be sufficient for most purposes. It might seem odd to say this about a big helicopter (MAUW 9500 lbs, Empty 5000 lbs, up to 14 POB) but, despite its size, the Huey is the sort of aircraft you ‘strap on’ rather than sit in and control.
I realise there's an enormous difference between flying an aircraft and operating one, but the Huey is so smooth it's almost as if thinking you want to do something is enough to make it happen, without any conscious control input.
The Force Trim relieves the control forces and helps maintain the cyclic position, but Ralph disabled it initially so I could get a better feel for the helicopter. The Huey doesn’t fly ‘hands off’ with Force Trim in, but it will hold attitude for about 7-10 seconds before beginning to wander. Not being used to the system, I found myself forgetting disengage it to manoeuvre and, when I did remember, then forgetting to release the button when the required attitude was established.
As we approached Sywell for our fuel-stop (Fuel burn about 550 lbs/hr), I thought I should suggest Ralph took back control but got a relaxed ‘’You carry on. I won’t let you get in trouble.” I suppose with 10,000 hours, 2000 US Army instructing, two Chinook combat tours in Vietnam and flying numerous types all over the world under your belt, you have the experience to know if/when to intervene and the skill to recover if an inexperienced pilot screws up.
Like many PPLs, I hate landing with an audience but, in a Huey, landing without anyone noticing isn’t an option. With 99% luck and 1% judgment, we put down without drama. (It's obviously a very forgiving aircraft.)
Quick fuel-stops aren’t an option either. With only one flying in the country, people want to look .....
..... and ask lots of questions.
Four years flying Hueys in the National Guard haven’t dimmed Raph’s love of the helicopter – all questions happily answered before we set off again.
Easing forward on the cyclic brings translational lift at about 18-20 kts. Best angle of climb speed of 80 kts/ 54 lbs torque (I think) and we were climbing effortlessly at more than 2500 fpm.
Gently easing the nose soon gives a 100 kts cruise. From what I’ve read, that seems to be the normal cruise speed for an H model (Lycoming T53-L-13B 1400 shp turboshaft engine) but this one cruises happily at 110 kts. VNE is 120 kts.
Descending into Booker for a ‘social’ call (OK, I couldn’t resist dropping in on some friends!) at 80 knots gave 500 fpm. There was the occasional sound of blade slap which I suppose could be stopped with a slight increase in pitch, but you have to get down – and it’s a great sound!
We hover-taxied towards the pad in a cross-wind. Decision time! It’s all going very smoothly so, do I live with the cross-wind or unsettle us by turning over the pad before putting down - and possibly mess up in front of the inevitable audience? I decided the American principle ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ has a lot to be said for it, and luck was again on my side. The Huey seems to be unaffected by cross-wind (within reason obviously) – I don’t know why.
Ralph has got used to using the Huey owner’s Pooley’s while flying in the UK and, by coincidence, another aviation venerable happened to be at Booker - Ralph now has his own complimentary copy of Pooley's from the man himself.
As we set off around the zone to Redhill (the Huey is FAA ‘Experimental’ category, equivalent of the CAA ‘Permit’, so no flight over congested areas) I had mixed feelings – loving every minute of flying the Huey, but not long before I’d have to give it back.
If I hadn’t already worked out why there always seemed to be people waiting to watch the Huey coming in, the call at the VRP for Redhill would have given me the answer –
“Redhill – Huey 509, Reigate Station”
“I know. I can hear you!”
And what a wonderful sound – which, CAA permitting, will be a welcome sound on the display circuit next year. If the reaction the Huey got at HeliTech and on the day I was lucky enough to fly it are any indication, the crowds will love it.
A very big ‘Thank you’ to SASless and to Phil Connolly the owner of G-UH1H for giving me a day to remember.
Tudor Owen
Edit - Apologies for rambling on. The silly grin may have worn off, but the thrill hasn't.
Even a ride in the back of such a classic helicopter would have been a thrill, but an invitation from Ralph (SASless) to fly in the left seat on a ferry flight from Blackpool to Redhill was an opportunity not to be missed.
I naturally hoped to be offered some stick time somewhere en route, but the reality was even better - only a few minutes after lifting, Ralph very kindly invited me to fly.
Apart from one hour in an S-76, and a few hours in an Agusta 109, I don’t normally fly anything bigger than Jetrangers and Gazelles so an assurance that the Huey is 'just like a big Jetranger' seemed unlikely - but it’s true.
The venerable Huey has won the respect of thousands of pilots and captured the imagination of even more, and it didn't disappoint. It really is a joy to fly.
As a lowly PPL I’m reticent about making comments about helicopter handling in a forum so rich with experienced professionals from all over the world but, FWIW, I think the Huey handles beautifully. It's a stable helicopter which ‘goes where you point it’ and stays there, but it's also surprisingly manoeuvrable – surprising to me anyway.
A gentle initial input to see what happens turns out to be sufficient for most purposes. It might seem odd to say this about a big helicopter (MAUW 9500 lbs, Empty 5000 lbs, up to 14 POB) but, despite its size, the Huey is the sort of aircraft you ‘strap on’ rather than sit in and control.
I realise there's an enormous difference between flying an aircraft and operating one, but the Huey is so smooth it's almost as if thinking you want to do something is enough to make it happen, without any conscious control input.
The Force Trim relieves the control forces and helps maintain the cyclic position, but Ralph disabled it initially so I could get a better feel for the helicopter. The Huey doesn’t fly ‘hands off’ with Force Trim in, but it will hold attitude for about 7-10 seconds before beginning to wander. Not being used to the system, I found myself forgetting disengage it to manoeuvre and, when I did remember, then forgetting to release the button when the required attitude was established.
As we approached Sywell for our fuel-stop (Fuel burn about 550 lbs/hr), I thought I should suggest Ralph took back control but got a relaxed ‘’You carry on. I won’t let you get in trouble.” I suppose with 10,000 hours, 2000 US Army instructing, two Chinook combat tours in Vietnam and flying numerous types all over the world under your belt, you have the experience to know if/when to intervene and the skill to recover if an inexperienced pilot screws up.
Like many PPLs, I hate landing with an audience but, in a Huey, landing without anyone noticing isn’t an option. With 99% luck and 1% judgment, we put down without drama. (It's obviously a very forgiving aircraft.)
Quick fuel-stops aren’t an option either. With only one flying in the country, people want to look .....
..... and ask lots of questions.
Four years flying Hueys in the National Guard haven’t dimmed Raph’s love of the helicopter – all questions happily answered before we set off again.
Easing forward on the cyclic brings translational lift at about 18-20 kts. Best angle of climb speed of 80 kts/ 54 lbs torque (I think) and we were climbing effortlessly at more than 2500 fpm.
Gently easing the nose soon gives a 100 kts cruise. From what I’ve read, that seems to be the normal cruise speed for an H model (Lycoming T53-L-13B 1400 shp turboshaft engine) but this one cruises happily at 110 kts. VNE is 120 kts.
Descending into Booker for a ‘social’ call (OK, I couldn’t resist dropping in on some friends!) at 80 knots gave 500 fpm. There was the occasional sound of blade slap which I suppose could be stopped with a slight increase in pitch, but you have to get down – and it’s a great sound!
We hover-taxied towards the pad in a cross-wind. Decision time! It’s all going very smoothly so, do I live with the cross-wind or unsettle us by turning over the pad before putting down - and possibly mess up in front of the inevitable audience? I decided the American principle ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ has a lot to be said for it, and luck was again on my side. The Huey seems to be unaffected by cross-wind (within reason obviously) – I don’t know why.
Ralph has got used to using the Huey owner’s Pooley’s while flying in the UK and, by coincidence, another aviation venerable happened to be at Booker - Ralph now has his own complimentary copy of Pooley's from the man himself.
As we set off around the zone to Redhill (the Huey is FAA ‘Experimental’ category, equivalent of the CAA ‘Permit’, so no flight over congested areas) I had mixed feelings – loving every minute of flying the Huey, but not long before I’d have to give it back.
If I hadn’t already worked out why there always seemed to be people waiting to watch the Huey coming in, the call at the VRP for Redhill would have given me the answer –
“Redhill – Huey 509, Reigate Station”
“I know. I can hear you!”
And what a wonderful sound – which, CAA permitting, will be a welcome sound on the display circuit next year. If the reaction the Huey got at HeliTech and on the day I was lucky enough to fly it are any indication, the crowds will love it.
A very big ‘Thank you’ to SASless and to Phil Connolly the owner of G-UH1H for giving me a day to remember.
Tudor Owen
Edit - Apologies for rambling on. The silly grin may have worn off, but the thrill hasn't.
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You lucky, lucky, lucky baasterd
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Whirls
'ere Tudor, whaddya have to do to wangle that eh? Let me know!
You lucky, lucky, lucky baasterd
Cheers
Whirls
'ere Tudor, whaddya have to do to wangle that eh? Let me know!
Our Flying Lawyer is a smooth character....if his courtroom technique is as smooth as his control touch...I think his opponent would be in trouble.
I will have to admit his navigational skills leave a bit to be desired....despite two GPS's he tried to hide Stoke from me. My queries as to what he was up to might have been answered in a timely manner however there was quite a bit of giggling going on in the left seat that precluded effective CRM for a while.
Now as to not letting him get into trouble....I am not prepared to take on certain tasks!
It was in fact a most enjoyable day....after I disconnected his headset so I would not have to listen to the giggling.
I will have to admit his navigational skills leave a bit to be desired....despite two GPS's he tried to hide Stoke from me. My queries as to what he was up to might have been answered in a timely manner however there was quite a bit of giggling going on in the left seat that precluded effective CRM for a while.
Now as to not letting him get into trouble....I am not prepared to take on certain tasks!
It was in fact a most enjoyable day....after I disconnected his headset so I would not have to listen to the giggling.
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Lost Stoke!
I hope you managed to avoid all that controlled airspace round there. I know a man who can help with the court case if the CAA man comes knocking on your door.
I hope you managed to avoid all that controlled airspace round there. I know a man who can help with the court case if the CAA man comes knocking on your door.