Colour Blindness (merged)
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 12
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From: Worthing,West Sussex,United Kingdom
I`m in the same boat as you guys..I just cannot understand the JAA/CAA..its obvious,the americans have got it right by allowing you to do a practical test on an airfield with the lights,if you pass getting the waiver etc etc..
Hopefully now they`ve decoded the human genome we might be in luck for treatment but..I`m still annoyed because it felt when I was at Gatwick they`d claimed a victory against me..I hated the doctors attitude,you not being invited back..your dangerous get out.
All you other guys that have been upto Gatwick for the lanten test..hmmm.what plane has a seat 10 ft behind the instrument panel and pencil tip wide warning lights??? It sucks big time and REALLY annoys me,such a bad way to test...
Is there anyone out there wanting to put the CAA/JAA on ice..if so,let me know
Hopefully now they`ve decoded the human genome we might be in luck for treatment but..I`m still annoyed because it felt when I was at Gatwick they`d claimed a victory against me..I hated the doctors attitude,you not being invited back..your dangerous get out.
All you other guys that have been upto Gatwick for the lanten test..hmmm.what plane has a seat 10 ft behind the instrument panel and pencil tip wide warning lights??? It sucks big time and REALLY annoys me,such a bad way to test...
Is there anyone out there wanting to put the CAA/JAA on ice..if so,let me know
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 12
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From: Worthing,West Sussex,United Kingdom
I`m in the same boat as you guys..I just cannot understand the JAA/CAA..its obvious,the americans have got it right by allowing you to do a practical test on an airfield with the lights,if you pass getting the waiver etc etc..
Hopefully now they`ve decoded the human genome we might be in luck for treatment but..I`m still annoyed because it felt when I was at Gatwick they`d claimed a victory against me..I hated the doctors attitude,you not being invited back..your dangerous get out.
All you other guys that have been upto Gatwick for the lanten test..hmmm.what plane has a seat 10 ft behind the instrument panel and pencil tip wide warning lights??? It sucks big time and REALLY annoys me,such a bad way to test...
Is there anyone out there wanting to put the CAA/JAA on ice..if so,let me know
Hopefully now they`ve decoded the human genome we might be in luck for treatment but..I`m still annoyed because it felt when I was at Gatwick they`d claimed a victory against me..I hated the doctors attitude,you not being invited back..your dangerous get out.
All you other guys that have been upto Gatwick for the lanten test..hmmm.what plane has a seat 10 ft behind the instrument panel and pencil tip wide warning lights??? It sucks big time and REALLY annoys me,such a bad way to test...
Is there anyone out there wanting to put the CAA/JAA on ice..if so,let me know
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 220
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From: West Sussex, UK
SR,you should see if the beynes lantern test has arrived yet.you`ll find that alot better.anyone know??
If not,pop down to euroland..do the test in each country..got at least 10 chances to get it right eventually!!!
If not,pop down to euroland..do the test in each country..got at least 10 chances to get it right eventually!!!
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 220
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From: West Sussex, UK
SR,you should see if the beynes lantern test has arrived yet.you`ll find that alot better.anyone know??
If not,pop down to euroland..do the test in each country..got at least 10 chances to get it right eventually!!!
If not,pop down to euroland..do the test in each country..got at least 10 chances to get it right eventually!!!
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 128
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From: UK
Beynes Lantern
The lantern tests are being run by City University, London for the CAA - part of a plethora of tests conducted by the department as part of post-doctoral research - very thorough, very professional, plus they are trying to debunk some of the nonsense that surrounds the current colour vision standards (ie white is a critical colour)
Contact number 0207 040 8939 (Dr Teresa Squires/Marisa Rodriguez-Carmona)
Contact number 0207 040 8939 (Dr Teresa Squires/Marisa Rodriguez-Carmona)
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 128
Likes: 2
From: UK
Beynes Lantern
The lantern tests are being run by City University, London for the CAA - part of a plethora of tests conducted by the department as part of post-doctoral research - very thorough, very professional, plus they are trying to debunk some of the nonsense that surrounds the current colour vision standards (ie white is a critical colour)
Contact number 0207 040 8939 (Dr Teresa Squires/Marisa Rodriguez-Carmona)
Contact number 0207 040 8939 (Dr Teresa Squires/Marisa Rodriguez-Carmona)
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 21
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From: London
raf standards
Right guys, in civvy street, does passing the lantern test mean that you're ok for a class 1. I'm applying to RAF next year, I passed the Lantern test though failed the ishihara test. I could do a few of the dotted numbers, though further on I couldn't see ****** all.
My point is, whats the point in taking the Lantern test if they don't let you in for pilot/nav on the grounds of passing or failing the ishihara test. And is there any way around this.
Also, if anyone could confirm the current cp levels for pilot and Nav, that'd also be great.
Good luck guys aswell
Nick
My point is, whats the point in taking the Lantern test if they don't let you in for pilot/nav on the grounds of passing or failing the ishihara test. And is there any way around this.
Also, if anyone could confirm the current cp levels for pilot and Nav, that'd also be great.
Good luck guys aswell
Nick
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
From: London
raf standards
Right guys, in civvy street, does passing the lantern test mean that you're ok for a class 1. I'm applying to RAF next year, I passed the Lantern test though failed the ishihara test. I could do a few of the dotted numbers, though further on I couldn't see ****** all.
My point is, whats the point in taking the Lantern test if they don't let you in for pilot/nav on the grounds of passing or failing the ishihara test. And is there any way around this.
Also, if anyone could confirm the current cp levels for pilot and Nav, that'd also be great.
Good luck guys aswell
Nick
My point is, whats the point in taking the Lantern test if they don't let you in for pilot/nav on the grounds of passing or failing the ishihara test. And is there any way around this.
Also, if anyone could confirm the current cp levels for pilot and Nav, that'd also be great.
Good luck guys aswell
Nick
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 183
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From: My Computer
hi fellow pilots!
Last week I had my medical test in holland for medical class1.
I also failed the ishihara test.
Now I must try to pass the falant lantern test.
It is described earlier but I have got a few questions!
It will be given in 9 different series. but if there are 3 different colors there are max 27 different combinations possible.
will the collors also be different in intensity??
or wil the collors have the same intensity each serie but only another sequence??
please let me know, it is really important!
greetz
ist it possible to get 2 of the same colors in one serie?
and is it possible to do the test in another country if you failed in you own country?
that doesn't count??
Last week I had my medical test in holland for medical class1.
I also failed the ishihara test.
Now I must try to pass the falant lantern test.
It is described earlier but I have got a few questions!
It will be given in 9 different series. but if there are 3 different colors there are max 27 different combinations possible.
will the collors also be different in intensity??
or wil the collors have the same intensity each serie but only another sequence??
please let me know, it is really important!
greetz
ist it possible to get 2 of the same colors in one serie?
and is it possible to do the test in another country if you failed in you own country?
that doesn't count??
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 183
Likes: 0
From: My Computer
hi fellow pilots!
Last week I had my medical test in holland for medical class1.
I also failed the ishihara test.
Now I must try to pass the falant lantern test.
It is described earlier but I have got a few questions!
It will be given in 9 different series. but if there are 3 different colors there are max 27 different combinations possible.
will the collors also be different in intensity??
or wil the collors have the same intensity each serie but only another sequence??
please let me know, it is really important!
greetz
ist it possible to get 2 of the same colors in one serie?
and is it possible to do the test in another country if you failed in you own country?
that doesn't count??
Last week I had my medical test in holland for medical class1.
I also failed the ishihara test.
Now I must try to pass the falant lantern test.
It is described earlier but I have got a few questions!
It will be given in 9 different series. but if there are 3 different colors there are max 27 different combinations possible.
will the collors also be different in intensity??
or wil the collors have the same intensity each serie but only another sequence??
please let me know, it is really important!
greetz
ist it possible to get 2 of the same colors in one serie?
and is it possible to do the test in another country if you failed in you own country?
that doesn't count??
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 13
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From: Australia
Flying DJ
I did the Lantern Test (Farnsworth), a couple of weeks ago here in Oz and yes there are different intensities of colour.
I was shown two lights at a time, which can be red, green, or white.
The bright coloured lights are easy enough, it's when the colours are so pale as to look off white that made it a little difficult.
Good luck.
I did the Lantern Test (Farnsworth), a couple of weeks ago here in Oz and yes there are different intensities of colour.
I was shown two lights at a time, which can be red, green, or white.
The bright coloured lights are easy enough, it's when the colours are so pale as to look off white that made it a little difficult.
Good luck.
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 13
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From: Australia
Flying DJ
I did the Lantern Test (Farnsworth), a couple of weeks ago here in Oz and yes there are different intensities of colour.
I was shown two lights at a time, which can be red, green, or white.
The bright coloured lights are easy enough, it's when the colours are so pale as to look off white that made it a little difficult.
Good luck.
I did the Lantern Test (Farnsworth), a couple of weeks ago here in Oz and yes there are different intensities of colour.
I was shown two lights at a time, which can be red, green, or white.
The bright coloured lights are easy enough, it's when the colours are so pale as to look off white that made it a little difficult.
Good luck.
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 20
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From: Up North
To Nick Mahon
The current standards for GD(P) and GD(N) are CP2.
CP2 is normal colour vision.
Normal colour vision is getting 100% correct Ishihara plates (in daylight or daylight corrected light)
If you fail Ishihara and pass the Holmes-Wright lantern test you are CP3 ("colour-blind safe") and can hold an airfield driving permit for instance (traffic lights on airfield are not red amber green up a pole!)
Fail the H-W lantern you are CP4.
The current standards for GD(P) and GD(N) are CP2.
CP2 is normal colour vision.
Normal colour vision is getting 100% correct Ishihara plates (in daylight or daylight corrected light)
If you fail Ishihara and pass the Holmes-Wright lantern test you are CP3 ("colour-blind safe") and can hold an airfield driving permit for instance (traffic lights on airfield are not red amber green up a pole!)
Fail the H-W lantern you are CP4.
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 20
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From: Up North
To Nick Mahon
The current standards for GD(P) and GD(N) are CP2.
CP2 is normal colour vision.
Normal colour vision is getting 100% correct Ishihara plates (in daylight or daylight corrected light)
If you fail Ishihara and pass the Holmes-Wright lantern test you are CP3 ("colour-blind safe") and can hold an airfield driving permit for instance (traffic lights on airfield are not red amber green up a pole!)
Fail the H-W lantern you are CP4.
The current standards for GD(P) and GD(N) are CP2.
CP2 is normal colour vision.
Normal colour vision is getting 100% correct Ishihara plates (in daylight or daylight corrected light)
If you fail Ishihara and pass the Holmes-Wright lantern test you are CP3 ("colour-blind safe") and can hold an airfield driving permit for instance (traffic lights on airfield are not red amber green up a pole!)
Fail the H-W lantern you are CP4.
Mess Your Passage
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 313
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From: Temporarily Unaware......
Why is there no way of grading a pilots colour deficiency?
I hate when i have to admit to being colour blind people immediately think my world is black and white
I fly a retractable and i have had not one problem determining when its up or down
The CAA really need to look at a better system as i feel my personal state will not affect any operational flying
Is anyone elese of the same opinion ?
I hate when i have to admit to being colour blind people immediately think my world is black and white
I fly a retractable and i have had not one problem determining when its up or down
The CAA really need to look at a better system as i feel my personal state will not affect any operational flying
Is anyone elese of the same opinion ?
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 220
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From: West Sussex, UK
So,if you fail the Farnsworth Lantern test,I hear you can do the Beynes Lantern.
So,if someone was to fail that,would they be able to do the test abroad,like in Holland or Belgium???
The stupid rules the CAA have in place make me chuckle,but I thought in Oz,you didn`t do any colour vision tests...you got rid of all this myth didn`t you???
So..suppose City University decide you can be monochrome and still fly safely..you really think the CAA will wake up and do something about it???Ease the rules???
So,if someone was to fail that,would they be able to do the test abroad,like in Holland or Belgium???
The stupid rules the CAA have in place make me chuckle,but I thought in Oz,you didn`t do any colour vision tests...you got rid of all this myth didn`t you???
So..suppose City University decide you can be monochrome and still fly safely..you really think the CAA will wake up and do something about it???Ease the rules???
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
From: West Sussex, UK
So,if you fail the Farnsworth Lantern test,I hear you can do the Beynes Lantern.
So,if someone was to fail that,would they be able to do the test abroad,like in Holland or Belgium???
The stupid rules the CAA have in place make me chuckle,but I thought in Oz,you didn`t do any colour vision tests...you got rid of all this myth didn`t you???
So..suppose City University decide you can be monochrome and still fly safely..you really think the CAA will wake up and do something about it???Ease the rules???
So,if someone was to fail that,would they be able to do the test abroad,like in Holland or Belgium???
The stupid rules the CAA have in place make me chuckle,but I thought in Oz,you didn`t do any colour vision tests...you got rid of all this myth didn`t you???
So..suppose City University decide you can be monochrome and still fly safely..you really think the CAA will wake up and do something about it???Ease the rules???