Colour Blindness (merged)
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From: Surrey
Thanks FD,
Your a FAA AME yea? Will I be able to use the beyne lantern pass in the US? I already have a FAA Class 1 but it has the night vision/colour control limitation.
I've read the FAA AMEs manual and it lists the alternative lanterns that the FAA use, the beyne isn't mentioned. However the FAA seems to be more lienent then the CAA, you think they would accept it? Thanks
Your a FAA AME yea? Will I be able to use the beyne lantern pass in the US? I already have a FAA Class 1 but it has the night vision/colour control limitation.
I've read the FAA AMEs manual and it lists the alternative lanterns that the FAA use, the beyne isn't mentioned. However the FAA seems to be more lienent then the CAA, you think they would accept it? Thanks
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From: Surrey
Ah the saga continues.
The CAA will not accept the german JAA colour lantern test, as it was not done to their protocols. (- Just because people do things different don't mean there worse
)
The doctors at the CAA are meeting on friday to discuss if they will accept a full german class 1 to be converted to a UK one.
I love the JAA
The CAA will not accept the german JAA colour lantern test, as it was not done to their protocols. (- Just because people do things different don't mean there worse
)The doctors at the CAA are meeting on friday to discuss if they will accept a full german class 1 to be converted to a UK one.
I love the JAA
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From: Surrey
Ah the saga continues.
The CAA will not accept the german JAA colour lantern test, as it was not done to their protocols. (- Just because people do things different don't mean there worse )
The doctors at the CAA are meeting on friday to discuss if they will accept a full german class 1 to be converted to a UK one.
I love the JAA
The CAA will not accept the german JAA colour lantern test, as it was not done to their protocols. (- Just because people do things different don't mean there worse
)The doctors at the CAA are meeting on friday to discuss if they will accept a full german class 1 to be converted to a UK one.
I love the JAA
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From: Worcester UK
This really doesn't surprise me! The CAA in this country seem to be so unhelpful in any way that they can. They try to find any excuse to stop people flying. Also they are incredibly slow at actually answering your questions, nobody seems to know what is going on. For example I sent them an email almost two weeks ago in response to one which they sent me and still have not recieved a reply. Now considering that the CAA is a company and not funded by the gvmt, I think that they need to give there PR some thought!!!
Any these are just my opinons.
Any these are just my opinons.
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From: Worcester UK
This really doesn't surprise me! The CAA in this country seem to be so unhelpful in any way that they can. They try to find any excuse to stop people flying. Also they are incredibly slow at actually answering your questions, nobody seems to know what is going on. For example I sent them an email almost two weeks ago in response to one which they sent me and still have not recieved a reply. Now considering that the CAA is a company and not funded by the gvmt, I think that they need to give there PR some thought!!!
Any these are just my opinons.
Any these are just my opinons.
The Original Whirly
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From: Belper, Derbyshire, UK
Clour Blindness...Class2? NPPL?
Sorry if this has been answered, but despite searching I can't actually find a definitive answer.
I have a prospective student who says he's red/green colour blind, and wants to know if it'll prevent him getting a PPL. So...can he get a Class 2 medical? Failing that, can he get an NPPL medical...though of course that's no good for helicopters.
I'd like to be able to tell him exactly what he can and can't do, before he starts.
I have a prospective student who says he's red/green colour blind, and wants to know if it'll prevent him getting a PPL. So...can he get a Class 2 medical? Failing that, can he get an NPPL medical...though of course that's no good for helicopters.
I'd like to be able to tell him exactly what he can and can't do, before he starts.
The Original Whirly
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From: Belper, Derbyshire, UK
Clour Blindness...Class2? NPPL?
Sorry if this has been answered, but despite searching I can't actually find a definitive answer.
I have a prospective student who says he's red/green colour blind, and wants to know if it'll prevent him getting a PPL. So...can he get a Class 2 medical? Failing that, can he get an NPPL medical...though of course that's no good for helicopters.
I'd like to be able to tell him exactly what he can and can't do, before he starts.
I have a prospective student who says he's red/green colour blind, and wants to know if it'll prevent him getting a PPL. So...can he get a Class 2 medical? Failing that, can he get an NPPL medical...though of course that's no good for helicopters.
I'd like to be able to tell him exactly what he can and can't do, before he starts.
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From: Surrey
Being colourblind will not stop you getting a class 2. however it will have some limitations on it. you will not be allowed to fly at night. If they take a lantern test and pass it you can have this restriction removed (and also get a class 1 if wanted)
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From: Surrey
Being colourblind will not stop you getting a class 2. however it will have some limitations on it. you will not be allowed to fly at night. If they take a lantern test and pass it you can have this restriction removed (and also get a class 1 if wanted)
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From: Nottingham
Colour Vision Victor
Hi everyone,
Does anybody know any (British) pilots who have a colour deficiency, who have gained a JAR Class 1 Medical through passing the Lantern Test and employed with an airline?
Also, are there any other Colour Tests available which will grant you a JAR Class 1 Medical. Ive heard you can go to France, Germany?
Why is it that you can fly on a professional level in Australia and other countries, but not Europe with this condition, is it really a major factor anymore?
Many thanks
Does anybody know any (British) pilots who have a colour deficiency, who have gained a JAR Class 1 Medical through passing the Lantern Test and employed with an airline?
Also, are there any other Colour Tests available which will grant you a JAR Class 1 Medical. Ive heard you can go to France, Germany?
Why is it that you can fly on a professional level in Australia and other countries, but not Europe with this condition, is it really a major factor anymore?
Many thanks
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From: Nottingham
Colour Vision Victor
Hi everyone,
Does anybody know any (British) pilots who have a colour deficiency, who have gained a JAR Class 1 Medical through passing the Lantern Test and employed with an airline?
Also, are there any other Colour Tests available which will grant you a JAR Class 1 Medical. Ive heard you can go to France, Germany?
Why is it that you can fly on a professional level in Australia and other countries, but not Europe with this condition, is it really a major factor anymore?
Many thanks
Does anybody know any (British) pilots who have a colour deficiency, who have gained a JAR Class 1 Medical through passing the Lantern Test and employed with an airline?
Also, are there any other Colour Tests available which will grant you a JAR Class 1 Medical. Ive heard you can go to France, Germany?
Why is it that you can fly on a professional level in Australia and other countries, but not Europe with this condition, is it really a major factor anymore?
Many thanks
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From: Surrey
I didn't mean liteally copy and paste your question to this forum there are about 3-4 thread full of information on colour vision pilots, which I my self am.
I failed the colour test in the UK, but have passed in Germany. The UK is now refusing to accept this.....ahhh the fun goes on....
there are about 3-4 thread full of information on colour vision pilots, which I my self am.I failed the colour test in the UK, but have passed in Germany. The UK is now refusing to accept this.....ahhh the fun goes on....
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From: Surrey
I didn't mean liteally copy and paste your question to this forum there are about 3-4 thread full of information on colour vision pilots, which I my self am.
I failed the colour test in the UK, but have passed in Germany. The UK is now refusing to accept this.....ahhh the fun goes on....
there are about 3-4 thread full of information on colour vision pilots, which I my self am.I failed the colour test in the UK, but have passed in Germany. The UK is now refusing to accept this.....ahhh the fun goes on....
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From: Nottingham
Thought id give it a try anyway! Thanks for your input, do you think it is a major factor anymore? I am at a stage where i don't really want to shell out a small fortune on training IF, at the end of it i still can't get an unrestricted Class 1 Medical.
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From: Nottingham
Thought id give it a try anyway! Thanks for your input, do you think it is a major factor anymore? I am at a stage where i don't really want to shell out a small fortune on training IF, at the end of it i still can't get an unrestricted Class 1 Medical.
PPRuNe Handmaiden
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From: Duit On Mon Dei
tim,
The reason Australia has a more relaxed attitude to colour blindness is because of the tireless efforts of Dr Arthur Pape. Read his colour vision site for more info. He worked very hard to get the right to fly.
Note, there is a restriction on the colour defective pilot in Australia. They can only fly in Australian airspace.
The reason Australia has a more relaxed attitude to colour blindness is because of the tireless efforts of Dr Arthur Pape. Read his colour vision site for more info. He worked very hard to get the right to fly.
Note, there is a restriction on the colour defective pilot in Australia. They can only fly in Australian airspace.