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Old 18th Nov 2006, 16:42
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I Need a New One - How Do I Apply?

To replace a lost, stolen, or mutilated USCIS Form I-94 (Arrival-Departure Record) or Form I-95 (Crewman's Landing Permit), you must file USCIS Form I-102 (Application for Replacement/Initial Nonimmigrant Arrival - Departure Document). If the USCIS Form I-94 or Form I-95 is mutilated, attach the original form. If the USCIS Form I-94 or USCIS Form I-95 was lost or stolen, submit a copy of the original USCIS Form I-94. If you do not have a copy of your original USCIS Form I-94, submit a copy of the biographic/photo page from your passport and a copy of the passport page that was stamped by immigration inspectors when you entered the country. If you cannot submit any evidence of your legal admission to the United States, submit a full explanation and proof of your identity.

If you are applying to extend your stay in the United States or change your immigration status, you will be asked to give USCIS your Form I-94. If you were not given an USCIS Form I-94 when you were legally admitted to the United States, file USCIS Form I-102. You will need to give USCIS proof that you were legally admitted to the United States. You should file USCIS Form I-102 at the same time that you apply to extend your stay in the United States or change your immigration status.

Forms are available online, or by calling 1-800-870-3676, or by submitting an online request to receive forms by mail. After receiving Form I-102, read it carefully and note the documentation that must be submitted. Detailed information is provided in the accompanying instructions for Form I-102. Further information on forms, filing fees, and fee waivers is available in Forms, Fees & Filing Locations.
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Old 23rd Nov 2006, 10:34
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M1 Visa question

i am a flight student in the US with a multiple entry M1 visa.My question is if i want to travel out of US to visit my family and return for like two weeks,do i have to get another 1-20 or do i just represent the first 1-20 form at the port of US entry?
Secondly, if my spouse wishes to vist me briefly, what kind of visa is she qualified for?M2 or tourist visa?
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I wouldnt worry about it, most of the time you dont get asked for it, and there is no exit immirgration in the US. I travelled in and out every two weeks for 3 years, and lost more than one stub.

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Old 23rd Nov 2006, 20:44
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I've had to hand in my I-94 everytime i've left the US, it can cause problems if you don't because they will have no proof that you havn't overstayed your visa/visa waiver, there have been cases of people refused entry because of this.
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Old 23rd Nov 2006, 21:44
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at the airport, there is an immigration office, go there, and tell them you are leaving for 2-3 weeks.
they will do the paperwork for your reentrance in the states.If you leave the USA without telling them, they could say your visa is over and you will have to reapply for a new M1 visa.
you spouse can certainly come with a tourist visa or under the visa waiver prg if european.
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Old 24th Nov 2006, 02:40
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You must also ensure your M1 visa is signed by your school representative - otherwise you technically can't re-enter on your visa because they will assume you finished the course.
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visa help

I hope someone out there can help me with a query about the M1 visa. In the documentation I have received from the US embassy I am required to present proof that I will be returning home. The problem is since I am no longer in college and I have been working abroad for the last year and a half I don't have any proof of ties to Ireland.

Does anybody else know what would constitute proof that I will come home?
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Old 24th Jan 2007, 10:45
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Family ties, friends,fiancee, bank accounts in Ireland.
All that sort of thing.
Bring a letter from your employer stating the reason of your absence and the date you will go back to work.
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Angry US Visa Process - Pathetic to say the least

Hi Everyone,

I recently attended a visa interview for an M-1 Visa to attend a flight school in florida to do hour building and CPL and i have to say that i have never been treated in such a dis-tasteful manner as i was that morning.

Bit of background on me.


- British Citizen & lived there for about 20 years
- JAA PPL(A) Holder
- Hourbuilding Partially in Australia (have family out here)
- hold security clearances in UK and Australia
- never been in trouble with the law
- excellent training record
- Orginally from the Caribbean and my father was a pilot also - my name is of indian origin.
- have never been involved in terrorism or supported or condoned terrorism in any way

First you ring the flight school and tell them your requirements - they were very helpful and sent me the required info.

Second - fill out all the paperwork and send a request for an I-20 form

Third - register online with TSA, SEVIS and arrange an interview

Fourth - pay a fortune in application fees for TSA, SEVIS, (a pin number just to even arrange an interview!!!!!!!!!) and the visa application fee - roughly about $130 Aussie Dollars

Fifth - you turn up for the interview and are promptly told that the pictures are the wrong size. Their regulations say a) must cover >50% of the photo and b) must be so many mm by so many mm - you show them their regulations and they still blame you so you then have to walk for a mile to get some new passport photos done (this happens in 90% of cases i am told)

Sixth - you get basically stripped and everything taken off you. I was there with three others and we weren't even allowed to take a pen. This was questioned and his response was that there were pens up in the interview waiting room - i found out later that this was a total lie.

Seventh - bearing in mind that you have just been nearly stripsearched and had everything but the interview forms taken from you - guess what? - yes you are x-rayed again!! & this time your books go through some kind of electron scanner or something make sure that they are in fact made out of paper.

Eight - you wait forever to get called to each window - it really does take 4 hours sometimes

Nine - you eventually get to see an interview officer who doesn't even know what you want to go and do - so you kindly explain your intentions.

Ten - You get your response - bear in mind he hasn't even looked at my paperwork properly - just basically taken one look at me - who was smartly dressed and pretty credible and genuine and said...

US Immi: "You're application needs to go for some additional processing"

AHMC : "oh i see, what is that and how come?"

This process was then explained to me and the reasons were basically as follows - i paraphrase partly, for brevity and conciseness - the jist is still the same:

"Based on your name, skin color, hair color and the fact you wish to fly in the United States we believe you may be a terrorist. What we intend to do is send your application off to the CIA,NSA,FBI,DOD and everyother government agency in washington to see if we are right. We have no interest in having your 'kind' in the united states and hope that you do not pursue your application"

AHMC: "Well sorry to hear that but i would still like to pursue my application as it means a lot to me and i am not a terrorist - how long can i expect to wait?

US Immi: "well if you persist then it could take any where from 3-4months and even then you will have to pay another application fee and go through the whole process again...please don't apply and by the way times up - go wait for your documents in the waiting room - bye!"

At this point he said that in order for them to do this additional processing he need to get all the documents i had brought and make copies. I took great delight in watching his face drop as i handed him the following:

1) Full British Security Clearance
2) Full Australian Security Clearance
3) UK PPL(A)
4) Australian Pilots Licence
5) Two valid passports (one of which was UK the other a former british colony in the carribean)
6) Police Reference
7) Bank statements
8) proof of significant ties in the UK to return to

i then muttered the words "still think i'm a terrorist? " - he said nothing and sloped off slightly red faced.

Sorry for the length of this but i was totally disgusted and just wanted to warn anyone that isn't white and has a name which sounds foreign that you should expect to be checked and treated with distain by the US Immigration service. I had all the credentials required and was in many eyes "an exceptional candidate for a visa" but their policy now is to discriminate - so if you have suffered this type of discrimination then please don't feel alone.

I will be posting their emails on my website and will let you know the address if anyone is interested.

I would like to say - if anyone from US Immigration reads this -

I am proud of who i am, I am proud of my name and where I come from (Trinidad & Tobago) and i am proud of my creed.

You can call me anything you want just because some idiots enacted 9/11 but i will still succeed at flying whether it's in the US or anywhere else and shame on you for being so narrow minded. Not everyone who has a slightly foreign name is a terrorist.

To anyone else who has or does go through this - be proud of who you are and where you come from - it is a difficult world now for some but don't let this type of thing steer you away from you're plans. You will succeed - stay focused and your dreams will come true.

Best Wishes,

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Old 28th Jan 2007, 16:57
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I've been through this process twice and each time it has amazed me.

Sitting there for hours, being fleeced for your money and jumpping through checks which are quite frankly laughable.

I took 3 sets of passport photos so that they couldnt send me off down the road like they did last time, because my hair was slightly shorter !

Then of course the fun still isnt over. You can look forward to being treated like a criminal when you arrive at your destination too.....finally over....nop the chances are that you will also get turned over as you go back home !

Dont these people realise that they are dealing with people that are willing to kill themselves for their caluse. Filling in a couple of forms, having a photo done and then all of the other stuff is not going to put them off !

I'm sorry to read your post. This type of stereotyping should have died out long ago. If your are looking for terrorists these days then everyone should be treated as suspect.....and as London sadly discovered, that includes HOME GROWN.

HOWEVER as you have already said.....keep your goal in mind.

Its still a great place to visit on holiday and to fly.

As we say at work 'dont let the buggers grind you down' !
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Old 28th Jan 2007, 17:23
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Hey Big Mister,
Knowing your dodgy past and demeanor I'm surprised they didn't insist on a body cavity search
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I have stopped to discuss with the US immigration. and I am chocked to see how they treat us so badly when we come to spend our money in this stupid freaking country.

having being denied for a training in the USA (due to their mistake between US offices), a year later I received a job in europe. so I have spent gladly my money in an European school and not in the USA.

send to hell the US immigration and heir freaking TSA and go to fly in much nicer places like canada.

the USA has already lost 30% of his tourism.
tourists are more worry
about immigration questions at their US port of entrance than terrorism.

one of my friends has waited 6 months for his J1 visa, and he still waiting!!!!

this US immigration is a joke!
still better and faster to climb over the wall and run to San Diego than to wait hours in a US office for a stupid visa.


Pilots...,have fun in your jail in Guantanamo!!once you are there, you have no right anymore.
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Old 28th Jan 2007, 23:03
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LOL - I have always been the last civi to leave a USA airport since I got the PPL!

HOWEVER as I say......still a great place to visit and to do your flying.

The exchange rate is such 'it would be rude not to' holiday in the USA !

Its there country, and its their rules.....I just wish UK were a bit more picky !

I wonder how many US types we turn away ?????
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Old 28th Jan 2007, 23:46
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Well, I can report a positive experience just over a year ago. In and out of the Belfast Embassy for the interview within 2 hours. Arrived in Orlando and sent off to the immigration room, 20 mins later and a quick chat (they'd never heard of Kazakhstan where I'd been 2 months prior on business and thought I may be a communist - but easily resolved) and I was through immigration and done. Piece of cake.

However, I would say - get your bottles in a row before you go to the interview. Make sure you have the proper U.S. passport photos (not UK size) and that you have everything they want - and that you've paid for the interview and have a receipt!

If you have it all boxed off, it's a no brainer. I counted 5 people before me in the queue who got bumped out of the embassy as they didn't have the required docs - and that's after the 2 hour wait!

But it worked like a charm for me!
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Old 29th Jan 2007, 01:51
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I had no problems. No one at my school has ever had any problems and we're talking 100s of students here.
one of my friends has waited 6 months for his J1 visa, and he still waiting!!!!
Any problems I have ever heard of are induced by sponsoring organisation or you not having the correct paperwork in order.
Follow the instructions - don't interpret them! If you follow them you will have no problems. They are more than comprehensive enough - to cover nearly all of your questions.
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Old 30th Jan 2007, 01:05
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Hi guys,

Thank you for the replys.

I am glad it worked out smoothly for you BigGrecian & Slopey. Might i presume you are both white and don't have foreign (at least of arabic origin) names, and also i think one of you is HM Forces according to the profiles - so maybe this helped grease the wheels - i don't know.

I was merely talking from my personal experience and the things i was told which were pretty racist and discriminatory - he represented the US Immigration service as a whole and told me those things.

I also questioned regarding the hour building as this could be done without a visa as it is flying for pleasure and is eligible under the Visa Waiver Programme and he just laughed and said "don't even dare - you'll be sent back even attempting to fly in the US" - so i think that says it all.

One of the things i was highlighting was that i had all of my paperwork in order, every form I-20, Sevis Receipt, all the DS-15x's, all the supporting paperwork and the photo thing was sorted before the interview as i arrived in plenty of time.

As i said before i was told basically "you're not welcome" which based on my history and credentials was totally confusing and very difficult to understand.

The point i was making was that it was put across to me in a crystal clear fashion that because the US profile for a terrorist is somebody between 16-40 years of age, non-white skin (i have olive skin), black hair, and has an (arabic sounding name) then anybody fitting that profile was going to be scrutinzed considerably.

BigGrecian said in his email "100's of students" - just out of interest was it a flight school? and how many of those students had waited the 3-6months for the additional processing to be completed?

I am sure if i waited the the 3-6 months for this process to be completed they would have no choice but to issue me with a visa - mainly because i am not a terrorist and have always been of good character + my intentions are genuine. But 3-6months in someones plan is a huge chunk of time to break from training and i have decided to look elsewhere and write off the fortune i've already paid in fees just to get an interview.

This was my unfortuante personal experience - i hope it doesn't happen to anyone else but i am sure it will - because if the US doesn't realise that a terrorist could be anyone (of any creed, color, ethnicity etc) then this will happen to many other people and every time it does it will be racial discrimination - a very poor state of affairs.

Respectfully,

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Old 30th Jan 2007, 01:20
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I applied for my Visa in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Only one Arabic gentleman at the embassy had problems when I was there - and that was due problems regarding his trip to Cuba.
It seems you got a short straw.
And yes, I agree with you - they do treat you like terrorist - until proven otherwise, rather than the other way round.
This has hit the tourist and Flying community alike over in the US.
Sorry to hear of your troubles - keep your chin up and good luck with your flying.
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Thanks for your kind words and yes like all us pilots we always have a plan b,c,d etc some times too many plans!!

It is a shame though - i think the US is great for pilots and tourists and it would be nice one day if things were slightly different. i.e they treat you like a human being first, but i think this day is a long time off from now.

Good luck with your flying also.
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Canada

Hi All

I cut the crap and went to Canada instead of the States. Canada is internationally renonwed for their pilot training, and the standard of the schools over here is much higher than in the States. The prices are more or less the same too.

In Canada you don't need a student visa if you're staying less than six months. Even if you would apply for a student visa, the process is pretty straight forward and fast, so much easier than in the States. You will not be asked any insinuating and insulting questions when you apply for it either!

I'm doing my JAA training at Moncton Flight College in New Brunswick and I am really happy with the instruction and the school as a whole.

I think it's about time pilot cadets stood up against the way that the US are treating their international students.

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anyone tried Canada?

Hi All,
I have just been reading some of the nightmares people are having applying for US Visas. Being a British Citizen I was discussed to read about how US immigration dealt with AHMC. I have never trained or flown in the US so can not say that I have encountered any such troubles. I have however recently completed my CPL/MEP in Canada at Mocton Flight College, where I had no problem what so ever. In fact because my stay was going to be less then 6 months I needed no such visa. I strongly suggest that anyone thinking about applying for a US visa for aviation training purposes think again, try Canada (Moncton Flight College). It is not only the immigration in Canada that is superior to the US, the training is also of far better quality.
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