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Old 17th Sep 2023, 07:38
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Originally Posted by rudestuff
You just have to ask for it, that why they call it a loan. Anyone with a decent credit history can get £30k from the banks very easily. Especially if you apply for multiple smaller loans or cards the same day.

Im aware of how a loan works. A £30k loan isnít an option for some people, regardless of how you take it out.
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Old 17th Sep 2023, 16:00
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Im aware of how a loan works. A £30k loan isnít an option for some people, regardless of how you take it out.
Fair enough. We all make mistakes and it takes at least 6 years to clean up a dirty credit history, at least it did for me. There may be a few outliers, but for 99% of people who are condsidering modulat training debt is an option.
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Old 17th Sep 2023, 16:03
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Originally Posted by VariablePitchP
And if it was just £30K to train then we wouldnít need cadet schemes.

The reality is to go from nothing to employment in the RHS of a commercial aircraft youíre, realistically, looking at close to triple that.
And this is why pilots need maths. There is no reason to be spending much more than £45k total on flight training, even at UK prices. £90k for modular? That would average £450 per flight hour!
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Originally Posted by rudestuff
And this is why pilots need maths. There is no reason to be spending much more than £45k total on flight training, even at UK prices. £90k for modular? That would average £450 per flight hour!
Type rating, accommodation, the plethora of acronym based courses that come at the end of training. Thatís the reality, unless you get one of these golden tickets.
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 10:18
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Originally Posted by rudestuff
And this is why pilots need maths. There is no reason to be spending much more than £45k total on flight training, even at UK prices. £90k for modular? That would average £450 per flight hour!
Have you done recent research at all? The flying hours are only one portion of the costs.
£45k would just about cover CPL ME/IR and APS MCC if you can do both in minimum hours.

- Flying hours. £450+ per hour is the going rate in a twin engine. About £200 per hour PPL instruction.
- Exam costs
- Landing fees
- Fuel surcharges
- Examiner fees. The IR skills test with examiner and aircraft costs will be £1500 a go.
- Licence fees
- Equipment
- Medicals and any further investigation work needed
- ATPL Theory course fees

Right now in the UK from zero to CPL ME/IR APS MCC UPRT in minimum hours required you're looking at £70-80k. 5 years ago £45k was do able, especially pre-Brexit when you could run over to Poland. Even a PPL in a C152 will run £12k now all in with min hours.
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 11:50
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Hi Guys,

Did BA say straight after the online application process, a online test will be sent out?
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Originally Posted by Nino24
Hi Guys,

Did BA say straight after the online application process, a online test will be sent out?
It seems like the maths, checking test will be done during the online application from what I heard?
They're having another Q&A session at 4pm UK time today. Will tune in to find out if they specified anything else
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Hey guys I was wondering if weight can affect your initial class one?
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 17:15
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Originally Posted by icedchailatte
Hey guys I was wondering if weight can affect your initial class one?
It depends on your BMI, guidance is available here. I would always advocate getting at least a class 1 if you have an interest in flying commercially, itíll highlight any potential issues early on and give you a chance to sort them.

https://www.caa.co.uk/media/pt5l3li3/obesity-fc.pdf
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 17:36
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A few things from today's Q&A session:

- ​​Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.

- Contractual bond for seven years.

- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.

- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.

- No deferred places.

- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.

- Number of openings: 70.

- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 17:43
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Originally Posted by Aj2017
It depends on your BMI, guidance is available here. I would always advocate getting at least a class 1 if you have an interest in flying commercially, itíll highlight any potential issues early on and give you a chance to sort them.

https://www.caa.co.uk/media/pt5l3li3/obesity-fc.pdf
Ok thankyou! Am i correct to say that if the BMI is lower than 32.5 you wonít have any issues?
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 18:08
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Anyone know when exactly it opens? Like it is midnight or 8am tomorrow?
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Originally Posted by icedchailatte
Ok thankyou! Am i correct to say that if the BMI is lower than 32.5 you wonít have any issues?
I would think so, but Iím not an AME so I canít answer for definite. If youíre in any doubt then getting a class 1 will answer it for you.
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 20:08
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Maths A level

Sorry but, how can you do A Level maths with no GCSE

QUOTE=CaptN;11504823]A few things from today's Q&A session:

- ​​Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.

- Contractual bond for seven years.

- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.

- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.

- No deferred places.

- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.

- Number of openings: 70.

- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.[/QUOTE]
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 20:37
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Originally Posted by CaptN
A few things from today's Q&A session:

- ​​Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.

- Contractual bond for seven years.

- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.

- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.

- No deferred places.

- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.

- Number of openings: 70.

- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.
Surely you donít mean theyíre excluding anyone with A levels or degree qualifications?
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 20:45
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I hope not

Originally Posted by Terrence Trent Derby
Surely you donít mean theyíre excluding anyone with A levels or degree qualifications?
I hope not 😩, because Iíve got a BSc and MSc. I wasnít able to attend the Live today which is a shame, so many questions !
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Old 19th Sep 2023, 04:58
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Originally Posted by Terrence Trent Derby
Surely you donít mean theyíre excluding anyone with A levels or degree qualifications?
No, not at all I'm sure they'll view applicants with A-Levels and degrees favourably! However, they said you must have 6 GCSEs, so if you have those in addition to further/higher qualifications you should be good to go
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Originally Posted by Peter Ahonsi
I hope not 😩, because Iíve got a BSc and MSc. I wasnít able to attend the Live today which is a shame, so many questions !
Apologies, I worded it quite badly in hindsight, degrees and A-Levels are fine, just that you must have 6 GCSEs in addition ie if you had 5 A*/9 grade GCSEs and a 1st in Aeronautical Engineering from Oxbridge you wouldn't meet the requirements as it's a strict on the 6 GCSEs (or accepted equivalents).
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Originally Posted by CaptN
Apologies, I worded it quite badly in hindsight, degrees and A-Levels are fine, just that you must have 6 GCSEs in addition ie if you had 5 A*/9 grade GCSEs and a 1st in Aeronautical Engineering from Oxbridge you wouldn't meet the requirements as it's a strict on the 6 GCSEs (or accepted equivalents).
Clearly you wouldnít have a 1st in Aero Eng from Oxbridge if youíd done your GCSEs that badly.

Or if somehow you did, youíre smart enough to fire out a GCSE in 5 minutes and apply next time.

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Old 19th Sep 2023, 08:23
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Originally Posted by Peter Ahonsi
Sorry but, how can you do A Level maths with no GCSE

QUOTE=CaptN;11504823]A few things from today's Q&A session:

- ​​Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.

- Contractual bond for seven years.

- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.

- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.

- No deferred places.

- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.

- Number of openings: 70.

- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.
[/QUOTE]

You could self-study and take the exam as a private candidate...
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