Speedbird Pilot Academy - Funded
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Im aware of how a loan works. A £30k loan isn’t an option for some people, regardless of how you take it out.
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Fair enough. We all make mistakes and it takes at least 6 years to clean up a dirty credit history, at least it did for me. There may be a few outliers, but for 99% of people who are condsidering modulat training debt is an option.
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And this is why pilots need maths. There is no reason to be spending much more than £45k total on flight training, even at UK prices. £90k for modular? That would average £450 per flight hour!
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From: FLSomething
Type rating, accommodation, the plethora of acronym based courses that come at the end of training. That’s the reality, unless you get one of these golden tickets.
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£45k would just about cover CPL ME/IR and APS MCC if you can do both in minimum hours.
- Flying hours. £450+ per hour is the going rate in a twin engine. About £200 per hour PPL instruction.
- Exam costs
- Landing fees
- Fuel surcharges
- Examiner fees. The IR skills test with examiner and aircraft costs will be £1500 a go.
- Licence fees
- Equipment
- Medicals and any further investigation work needed
- ATPL Theory course fees
Right now in the UK from zero to CPL ME/IR APS MCC UPRT in minimum hours required you're looking at £70-80k. 5 years ago £45k was do able, especially pre-Brexit when you could run over to Poland. Even a PPL in a C152 will run £12k now all in with min hours.
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From: London
They're having another Q&A session at 4pm UK time today. Will tune in to find out if they specified anything else
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https://www.caa.co.uk/media/pt5l3li3/obesity-fc.pdf
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A few things from today's Q&A session:
- Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.
- Contractual bond for seven years.
- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.
- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.
- No deferred places.
- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.
- Number of openings: 70.
- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.
- Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.
- Contractual bond for seven years.
- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.
- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.
- No deferred places.
- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.
- Number of openings: 70.
- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.
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From: Uk
It depends on your BMI, guidance is available here. I would always advocate getting at least a class 1 if you have an interest in flying commercially, it’ll highlight any potential issues early on and give you a chance to sort them.
https://www.caa.co.uk/media/pt5l3li3/obesity-fc.pdf
https://www.caa.co.uk/media/pt5l3li3/obesity-fc.pdf
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Maths A level
Sorry but, how can you do A Level maths with no GCSE
QUOTE=CaptN;11504823]A few things from today's Q&A session:
- Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.
- Contractual bond for seven years.
- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.
- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.
- No deferred places.
- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.
- Number of openings: 70.
- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=CaptN;11504823]A few things from today's Q&A session:
- Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.
- Contractual bond for seven years.
- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.
- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.
- No deferred places.
- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.
- Number of openings: 70.
- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.[/QUOTE]
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A few things from today's Q&A session:
- Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.
- Contractual bond for seven years.
- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.
- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.
- No deferred places.
- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.
- Number of openings: 70.
- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.
- Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.
- Contractual bond for seven years.
- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.
- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.
- No deferred places.
- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.
- Number of openings: 70.
- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.
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From: United Kingdom
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From: United Kingdom
Apologies, I worded it quite badly in hindsight, degrees and A-Levels are fine, just that you must have 6 GCSEs in addition ie if you had 5 A*/9 grade GCSEs and a 1st in Aeronautical Engineering from Oxbridge you wouldn't meet the requirements as it's a strict on the 6 GCSEs (or accepted equivalents).
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From: FLSomething
Apologies, I worded it quite badly in hindsight, degrees and A-Levels are fine, just that you must have 6 GCSEs in addition ie if you had 5 A*/9 grade GCSEs and a 1st in Aeronautical Engineering from Oxbridge you wouldn't meet the requirements as it's a strict on the 6 GCSEs (or accepted equivalents).
Or if somehow you did, you’re smart enough to fire out a GCSE in 5 minutes and apply next time.
Last edited by VariablePitchP; 19th September 2023 at 13:37.
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Sorry but, how can you do A Level maths with no GCSE
QUOTE=CaptN;11504823]A few things from today's Q&A session:
- Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.
- Contractual bond for seven years.
- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.
- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.
- No deferred places.
- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.
- Number of openings: 70.
- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.
QUOTE=CaptN;11504823]A few things from today's Q&A session:
- Srictly 6 GCSEs or equivalent qualifications, nothing higher will be accepted ie if you had 5 GCSEs with no maths but had maths A-Level you won't be considered.
- Contractual bond for seven years.
- Applications must be completed by the end of the 25th.
- If you don't already have a Class 1 medical BA will fund it if you are successful.
- No deferred places.
- They are planning to reopen the scheme again in March 2024.
- Number of openings: 70.
- The course is for a full ATPL and not an MPL.
You could self-study and take the exam as a private candidate...