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Old 8th Sep 2023, 10:13
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Originally Posted by realECMLdriver
Right to work/study in the UK without sponsorship would probably suggest it isn't open to EU/overseas applicants unless you have dual citizenship or something. Happy to be corrected.

Let's be honest, they'll fill their ranks with locals without breaking a sweat and until they encounter issues with low application numbers and/or lack of retention then I can't see the net being cast wider. I've long accepted that I won't be eligible to apply for the cadet scheme(s) of other national carriers. Quite rightly so if they can employ a citizen who more than meets the standard without having to go through the additional complexities of sponsorship, etc. Not what some people want to hear, but just my 2p worth.
Hit the nail on the head. There’s enough people within the U.K. who will be applying, so they have no requirement to sponsor people’s applications for visas etc.
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 12:59
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Originally Posted by realECMLdriver
Right to work/study in the UK without sponsorship would probably suggest it isn't open to EU/overseas applicants unless you have dual citizenship or something. Happy to be corrected.

Let's be honest, they'll fill their ranks with locals without breaking a sweat and until they encounter issues with low application numbers and/or lack of retention then I can't see the net being cast wider. I've long accepted that I won't be eligible to apply for the cadet scheme(s) of other national carriers. Quite rightly so if they can employ a citizen who more than meets the standard without having to go through the additional complexities of sponsorship, etc. Not what some people want to hear, but just my 2p worth.
Makes sense. This is the first year of an annual scheme however, so I wouldn’t rule it out in the future for those that can’t apply now!
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 17:54
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Hey everyone this is a little unrelated but the TUI MPL scheme will no longer be accepting atpl holders ?? which is surprising because they accepted them in the first intake.
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 18:08
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Hey everyone this is a little unrelated but the TUI MPL scheme will no longer be accepting atpl holders ?? which is surprising because they accepted them in the first intake.
Hi. Where did you get this info from?

Thanks.
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 18:45
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On the TUI mpl website if you scroll down to FAQ’s
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 19:03
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Originally Posted by icedchailatte
Hey everyone this is a little unrelated but the TUI MPL scheme will no longer be accepting atpl holders ?? which is surprising because they accepted them in the first intake.
It makes sense and I agree with them. If you’ve completed ATPL exams then you clearly have a plan to complete your training. These schemes are designed for people who cannot afford to do so.
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Old 10th Sep 2023, 09:28
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I hope they take the best people for the job out of those who have the right to work here. If economic background is looked at too much it'll end up like the Monty Python Four Yorkshiremen sketch.

There's a lot of us who couldn't afford cadet schemes a decade ago so got careers elsewhere and through hard work we're in with a chance of being able to fund modular training. I wouldn't want us to be disadvantaged in the process as a result of that.
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Old 10th Sep 2023, 09:39
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Originally Posted by Chris the Robot
I hope they take the best people for the job out of those who have the right to work here. If economic background is looked at too much it'll end up like the Monty Python Four Yorkshiremen sketch.

There's a lot of us who couldn't afford cadet schemes a decade ago so got careers elsewhere and through hard work we're in with a chance of being able to fund modular training. I wouldn't want us to be disadvantaged in the process as a result of that.
In relation to the latter part of your message - I totally agree. 2/3 years ago I was one of those applicants with no experience. I was up against many applicants with PPLs and ATPLs. On reflection, I could understand why I did not get a position on a cadetship.

Since, I used my degree to get myself a well paid job and as a result I could afford to start a pay as you go Modular approach to my training.
Having now started some ATPLs it would appear I am too far gone to even apply to these cadetships.

I appreciate these schemes are advertised as “cadet”, predominantly looking for people with no experience, but ultimately, this is not an easy training route (especially ATPL theory) so those who have found a way to get started on the journey should not be exempt from applying.
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Old 10th Sep 2023, 09:45
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I would also like to add.. being a modular student doesn’t necessarily mean it’s an easy funded route to the licence.

I work 5 days a week, juggle the ATPLs on top of this, keep my hands in flying while I can, pay my bills and a mortgage.

So, moral of my story - these cadetships are still very much worth their weight in gold to those who are still struggling to fund the journey, but are trying their best to make it happen!
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Old 10th Sep 2023, 09:56
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Originally Posted by FuturePilot_123
I would also like to add.. being a modular student doesn’t necessarily mean it’s an easy funded route to the licence.

I work 5 days a week, juggle the ATPLs on top of this, keep my hands in flying while I can, pay my bills and a mortgage.

So, moral of my story - these cadetships are still very much worth their weight in gold to those who are still struggling to fund the journey, but are trying their best to make it happen!
Spot on!
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Old 10th Sep 2023, 10:46
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Originally Posted by Chris the Robot
I hope they take the best people for the job out of those who have the right to work here. If economic background is looked at too much it'll end up like the Monty Python Four Yorkshiremen sketch.

There's a lot of us who couldn't afford cadet schemes a decade ago so got careers elsewhere and through hard work we're in with a chance of being able to fund modular training. I wouldn't want us to be disadvantaged in the process as a result of that.
From everything that has been said in the presentations I do believe they are focussed on hiring the best people. For BA this is an investment in getting a pipeline of quality new pilots, not an altruistic gift to a marginalised group. There are plenty of other industries where professional qualifications are funded by employers, and those employers seek out the best people they can to maximise the value of their investment. They don't take on the neediest in society to maximise the social impact.

I think people are getting mislead by the whole ATPL theory issue, but there are plenty of reasons for this other than penalising people smart/rich enough to have started the exams. The fact that TUI have abruptly changed their approach to match BA demonstrates that there must be issues from their side that make this difficult.
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Old 11th Sep 2023, 08:59
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9 month notice? Name and shame….. that is quite outeageous.
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Good website recommendations for online testing revision?
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Old 11th Sep 2023, 13:55
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Application

Does anyone know if there is a limit on applying if you don’t get in this year? As in can you only apply once, or if you have to wait a few years before reapplying if you don’t make it in the first 60 places?
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Old 11th Sep 2023, 19:34
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Pretty sure she said on the live stream you can only apply three times but idk how true this is. Not sure if that’s official.
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 09:27
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Guys, the application will open on 19th September, the criteria is also updated on their career site.
Good luck everyone!
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Thanks Freddy!
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Old 13th Sep 2023, 12:47
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Numerical Reasoning

How has everyone been prepping for the numerical reasoning? Only so many tests on BBC Bitesize. Also, does anyone have an idea what to expect. GCSE Maths is pretty broad….
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Old 13th Sep 2023, 12:48
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They’re confirmed training are with skyborne and FTEJEREZ!!!! I knew it lol 😂
also the window will only be open for a week from sept 19th

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Old 13th Sep 2023, 14:02
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Originally Posted by icedchailatte
They’re confirmed training are with skyborne and FTEJEREZ!!!! I knew it lol 😂
also the window will only be open for a week from sept 19th
I knew it was FTEJerez from the start
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