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Old 13th Sep 2023, 13:33
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how did you know ? or was it a good guess
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Old 13th Sep 2023, 13:37
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Originally Posted by icedchailatte
how did you know ? or was it a good guess
I know some people at FTEjerez, but I didn’t know about skyborne
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Old 13th Sep 2023, 13:44
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Originally Posted by Lewil2
How has everyone been prepping for the numerical reasoning? Only so many tests on BBC Bitesize. Also, does anyone have an idea what to expect. GCSE Maths is pretty broad….
I shelled out for Skytest which includes some great mental maths exercises.

It could be anything but I’ve been told to expect distance-speed-time-eta type questions, ground-vs-airspeed, ROD and TOD calculations maybe. Or perhaps random examples that test similar abilities.

Basically, I’d expect lots of addition and subtraction, multiplication and division of 3 digit numbers.

And it can’t hurt to brush up on BODMAS surely!
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 16:38
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Been scouring the speedbird details as much as possible but can’t find the answer to my question! While the course is funded, and they contribute to accomodation ect, will they still pay you while doing the training? Having a mortgage means I have bills to pay but don’t want to miss out on the oppertunity!
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 16:47
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Originally Posted by Tobias0501
Been scouring the speedbird details as much as possible but can’t find the answer to my question! While the course is funded, and they contribute to accomodation ect, will they still pay you while doing the training? Having a mortgage means I have bills to pay but don’t want to miss out on the oppertunity!
You get an allowance, as to what that is who knows.

You’ve got maybe six months. If the mortgage is due and you have literally zero savings, this is where you pick up the second, third and fourth job to bank some cash.

Throw your life on an interest free credit card for a couple of years if you have to. To let this pass because you’ve got a few loose ends will be something you never stop regretting.
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 18:51
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Originally Posted by Tobias0501
Been scouring the speedbird details as much as possible but can’t find the answer to my question! While the course is funded, and they contribute to accomodation ect, will they still pay you while doing the training? Having a mortgage means I have bills to pay but don’t want to miss out on the oppertunity!
I don’t know what you’re paying on your mortgage, but I highly doubt it’s enough to cover that if it’s anything like mine. My understanding is the allowance they contribute will be in the hundreds.
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 19:16
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Does anyone know how long the bond is for once training is completed?
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 06:04
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Originally Posted by Thesootybear123
Does anyone know how long the bond is for once training is completed?
No idea, but their old Future Pilot Programme had a 7 year bond
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 14:29
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Originally Posted by Angle_of_Attack
Correct, they require first-time passes so technically it would be considered a second pass as you'd have to re-do them regardless.
Arw they reffering to UK CAA exams only? I have got exams passed under Austro control, so technically it would be my first attempt with UK CAA
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 14:50
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Originally Posted by laurex
Arw they reffering to UK CAA exams only? I have got exams passed under Austro control, so technically it would be my first attempt with UK CAA
They didn’t specify CAA or EASA, just that if you’ve completed any ATPL exams you wouldn’t be eligible. They also didn’t specify the reason being to do with first time passes to my knowledge?
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 15:00
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Originally Posted by Aj2017
They didn’t specify CAA or EASA, just that if you’ve completed any ATPL exams you wouldn’t be eligible. They also didn’t specify the reason being to do with first time passes to my knowledge?
it’s a shame because my exam schedule is lined up to finish in August, and so far it’s my first series sitting and I have first time passes in all with an average above 85%.

Really disappointed but keeping hopeful they launch another program for similar people to myself in near future.
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 18:20
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Originally Posted by Aj2017
They didn’t specify CAA or EASA, just that if you’ve completed any ATPL exams you wouldn’t be eligible. They also didn’t specify the reason being to do with first time passes to my knowledge?
I cannot understand why I wouldn't be eligible, as my exams are not valid in the eyes of CAA yet proves I'm more than capable of passing them. About the first time passes, I saw it in one of the comments in this chat
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 18:38
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Originally Posted by laurex
I cannot understand why I wouldn't be eligible, as my exams are not valid in the eyes of CAA yet proves I'm more than capable of passing them. About the first time passes, I saw it in one of the comments in this chat
As has been said multiple times, the scheme is evidently targeting people without the means to complete training.

You do, or if you don’t then starting training without a clear financial plan was pretty courageous.
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 18:44
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Originally Posted by VariablePitchP
As has been said multiple times, the scheme is evidently targeting people without the means to complete training.

You do, or if you don’t then starting training without a clear financial plan was pretty courageous.
Said it before, I’ll say it again - it still doesn’t mean these opportunities are not worth their weight in gold to modular students too. You say this as if a 30k loan to complete a CPL ME IR is nothing.
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 19:32
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It’s fairly simple, BA are targeting people who do not have the means to get into the flight deck. If you have done exams you have the means otherwise you wouldn’t have started them.
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 19:34
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Originally Posted by FuturePilot_123
Said it before, I’ll say it again - it still doesn’t mean these opportunities are not worth their weight in gold to modular students too. You say this as if a 30k loan to complete a CPL ME IR is nothing.
Count yourself lucky you can get a loan to finish your training, I’m not in a position to do that and nor are many other people. The reality is a £30k loan to compete your CPL ME IR actually isn’t that bad, that’s the cost of a degree these days and I know which has the better earning capacity.
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 21:57
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I would hope that places for any cadet programme are offered solely on ability, regardless of financial background. Quite simply, the passengers deserve nothing less. I've long criticised airlines which exclude people who can't pay £100k and I think it's fantastic that things seem to be changing, however someone with millionaire parents or who has had a successful career and earned enough to self-fund shouldn't be excluded if they are the strongest candidate based on ability.
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Old 17th Sep 2023, 04:35
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Originally Posted by Chris the Robot
I would hope that places for any cadet programme are offered solely on ability, regardless of financial background. Quite simply, the passengers deserve nothing less. I've long criticised airlines which exclude people who can't pay £100k and I think it's fantastic that things seem to be changing, however someone with millionaire parents or who has had a successful career and earned enough to self-fund shouldn't be excluded if they are the strongest candidate based on ability.
How are they being excluded? they can SELF-FUND and then join via NQPP / Whitetail.
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Old 17th Sep 2023, 04:59
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Originally Posted by Aj2017
Count yourself lucky you can get a loan to finish your training, I’m not in a position to do that and nor are many other people. The reality is a £30k loan to compete your CPL ME IR actually isn’t that bad, that’s the cost of a degree these days and I know which has the better earning capacity.
You just have to ask for it, that why they call it a loan. Anyone with a decent credit history can get £30k from the banks very easily. Especially if you apply for multiple smaller loans or cards the same day.
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Old 17th Sep 2023, 06:19
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You just have to ask for it, that why they call it a loan. Anyone with a decent credit history can get £30k from the banks very easily. Especially if you apply for multiple smaller loans or cards the same day.
And if it was just £30K to train then we wouldn’t need cadet schemes.

The reality is to go from nothing to employment in the RHS of a commercial aircraft you’re, realistically, looking at close to triple that.
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