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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 11:53
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Originally Posted by Lukey31051999
Just been rejected. I completed the initial tests, situational judgement, maths and the reactions time test. I don't understand what else I can do, I've applied for 7 of these now (Aer Lingus 2019, 2023, Tui, Bristow etc) and haven't made it past round 1. Without risk of sounding like I am a sore loser I've been in the air cadets, flown in the University Air Squadron, got a Physics degree, worked for an aerospace company, have 24 hours PPL flying and now work in the city (to fund the potential training), what else can I do. They never give feedback.
The D&I is swinging dangerously in the opposite direction to the point where white males are being discriminated against - I see some of the cadets who get onto these courses with a small handful of hours (I even heard one person left the sponsored aer lingus course early). How an earth can they demonstrate more commitment than I have. Yes I am a bad loser but if I could just be told where I am going wrong it would help me so much.
It seems like the answer to your question is in your comment.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 12:01
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Originally Posted by Lukey31051999
Just been rejected. I completed the initial tests, situational judgement, maths and the reactions time test. I don't understand what else I can do, I've applied for 7 of these now (Aer Lingus 2019, 2023, Tui, Bristow etc) and haven't made it past round 1. Without risk of sounding like I am a sore loser I've been in the air cadets, flown in the University Air Squadron, got a Physics degree, worked for an aerospace company, have 24 hours PPL flying and now work in the city (to fund the potential training), what else can I do. They never give feedback.
The D&I is swinging dangerously in the opposite direction to the point where white males are being discriminated against - I see some of the cadets who get onto these courses with a small handful of hours (I even heard one person left the sponsored aer lingus course early). How an earth can they demonstrate more commitment than I have. Yes I am a bad loser but if I could just be told where I am going wrong it would help me so much.
You need to find a mirror and take a long hard look at yourself. The attitude you have displayed in this post is enough of a reason to reject you.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 12:10
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Rejection at SJ stage.
Have anyone passed tests yesterday afternoon/this morning?
I have a strong suspicion that they 'switched off' passing people because they have too many applications already. However that could be just me seeking pity for my fail...
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 13:56
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Originally Posted by desertghost
He has a point though, assuming two people have passed the initial tests how is it fair that the less qualified and less experienced candidate goes through? You should at least interview both before rejecting the more highly qualified. I also don't understand why they ask about gender, religion or race, none of that should matter if selection is to be purely objective. Anyway the world never has been fair, better to tread your own path if not being recognised.
Because a CV was also uploaded as well as there being a question to take into consideration. Maybe he didnít pass all the tests, or others got a higher grade? If his CV comes across in the way he spoke on here with a sense of entitlement then BA will see right through that.

Those questions are asked but not taken into account in selection. Otherwise it would be illegal.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 13:59
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Originally Posted by Aj2017
Iíve said before and will say again. Telling people the tests gives them an unfair advantage and like it or not everyone here is competing for a few places. Itís fairly basic GCSE level stuff so just do the tests, you shouldnít really need to revise for them.
I think if you dont revise for any of it you certainly won't pass.... revise your maths peeps.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 14:05
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Originally Posted by desertghost
Agree but then why ask those questions if they're not being taken into account?
The point is they failed on the tests and didnít get through? They have a selection criteria that wasnít met, plain and simple. Just because someone has a degree in physics and was part of the UAS doesnít make them the right person for the job. A sense of entitlement like that wonít get them far - and isnít someone I would want to share a flight deck with.

That question will become relevant and likely used to filter down those who passed the tests.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 14:13
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Originally Posted by desertghost
He has a point though, assuming two people have passed the initial tests how is it fair that the less qualified and less experienced candidate goes through? You should at least interview both before rejecting the more highly qualified. I also don't understand why they ask about gender, religion or race, none of that should matter if selection is to be purely objective. Anyway the world never has been fair, better to tread your own path if not being recognised.
Many people fail these tests multiple times before they make it - and they also don't receive any feedback. The difference? They had self-awareness and the dedication to figure out where to improve and do better instead of expecting it handed to them on a silver platter.
The tests check for mandatory competencies that are required to do the job successfully. If you do not naturally have the character for it, and choose to behave in an entitled manner and blame the company or others, and play the race / diversity card instead of owning your weaknesses and actively working on them, then no amount of experience or degrees will help you pass.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 14:19
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If you read the fine print you'll note that the equality and diversity details were used for statistical purposes and play no role in the selection process.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 14:31
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Did anybody else get an email reinviting them to take the checking test today?
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 15:15
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Originally Posted by Aj2017
Because a CV was also uploaded as well as there being a question to take into consideration. Maybe he didnít pass all the tests, or others got a higher grade? If his CV comes across in the way he spoke on here with a sense of entitlement then BA will see right through that.

Those questions are asked but not taken into account in selection. Otherwise it would be illegal.
I unfortunately didnít get through and received my rejection email within 10 seconds of completing the last test. This does make me think that my CV, qualifications/skill set wasnít even reviewed which is such a shame as I feel if it was Iíd be in with a chance! But Iím sure we all feel that way, and presumably somewhere I failed, or didnít meet the minimum on the tests.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 16:12
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For those that got through the maths to the next test, was it instant?
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 16:50
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Originally Posted by Angle_of_Attack
It seems like the answer to your question is in your comment.
No offense pal but you sound pretty entitled. No one owes any of us anything. A majority of this is luck. And sometimes some skill. You didn't make it past the initial screening tests. Many people didn't. And if you're complaining about D&I, have a look at TUI's 2023 line-up of successful cadets and that should tell you all you need to know about D&I just being a buzzword for these airlines. It's on their LinkedIn page, and they rightly received some stick for it. Admittedly not enough as that line-up screams of anything but D&I. The last thing black/brown people need is people thinking we were only chosen cos of some D&I nonsense, and not because we performed well. Also I'll give you a little clue into these sorts of processes. No human looks at your application in the 1st stages, hence why it's test heavy. Pretty much all of it is automated until you get to interview stages, and even the video interviews are also automated.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 16:56
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Originally Posted by Angle_of_Attack
Many people fail these tests multiple times before they make it - and they also don't receive any feedback. The difference? They had self-awareness and the dedication to figure out where to improve and do better instead of expecting it handed to them on a silver platter.
The tests check for mandatory competencies that are required to do the job successfully. If you do not naturally have the character for it, and choose to behave in an entitled manner and blame the company or others, and play the race / diversity card instead of owning your weaknesses and actively working on them, then no amount of experience or degrees will help you pass.
Really wish we could like comments on here! You and Aj2017 have hit the nail right on the head. How can you talk about being on the UAS making you a great fit when the requirements ask for GCSEs? If anything you are grossly overqualified considering your life experience and qualifications. You also "work in the city" so clearly you can afford it. Thank God self-awareness isn't a pilot competency
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 17:02
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Originally Posted by Alanga1991
No offense pal but you sound pretty entitled. No one owes any of us anything. A majority of this is luck. And sometimes some skill. You didn't make it past the initial screening tests. Many people didn't. And if you're complaining about D&I, have a look at TUI's 2023 line-up of successful cadets and that should tell you all you need to know about D&I just being a buzzword for these airlines. It's on their LinkedIn page, and they rightly received some stick for it. Admittedly not enough as that line-up screams of anything but D&I. The last thing black/brown people need is people thinking we were only chosen cos of some D&I nonsense, and not because we performed well. Also I'll give you a little clue into these sorts of processes. No human looks at your application in the 1st stages, hence why it's test heavy. Pretty much all of it is automated until you get to interview stages, and even the video interviews are also automated.
Incredibly well said. Hopefully BA Recruiters monitor these forums
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 17:11
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Upon reflection, my comment was poorly worded, and yes did come across as spoilt. I suppose my point is where do I improve - I accept better candiates get in and I don't doubt that. But I think from the volume of times I've applied, money I have invested into a PPL, work experiences, I would like to know what I am lacking (and yes I am working on self-awareness). However, I do believe often that d&i can swing too much in one direction, surely pilots should be chosen on merit? I am all for D&I of course but the recent RAF scandal about 'too many useless white male pilots' shone light ono this issue.
 
Old 22nd Sep 2023, 17:19
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Alanga 1991 you have misread my original comment. Of course, the right people are chosen, I don't doubt that. My frustration is my unawareness of where I am going wrong. I have invested a lot of funds to pay for things like a PPL etc. Also who are you to say I have some high paying job in the city, its a turn of phrase...

I fully support D&I, but with the RAF's recent scandal of recruiting 'too many useless white males' you can see my point about the issue of having it promoted too much - it should be based on merit with backgrounds taken into consideration.
 
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Anyone else got an email for an online interview!
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 17:23
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Anyone else got an email for an online interview!
Nice one mate! Nothing yet..
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 17:47
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Also got my invite to the video interview. I'm really grateful for the speedy process so far.

Best of luck everyone!
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 18:22
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Congrats guys! Sadly I didn't get to the next stage.... I'm pretty sure I aced the first test and the maths, I only just got through all of the tables on the third test though. I fear that was my downfall... Out of interest, how far / many questions did you manage to answer on the third test? Thanks!
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