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Buddy I will leave it here as it is because I can see clearly you took it personal.
Whatever I said you came up with some information with too much details and asking me as student to answer things I don't know and I don't care to know I have more important things to do than to dig for stupid information, but again you are not from the inside and you just repeat the rumours from others.
You are going forward and backwards about same things and asking stuff that only the owner can answer.
So why you don't get in touch with the owner and find in a common language a solution about YOUR problem and ask all of this fancy questions, here is clear you haven't an issue with the academy but with the owner and continuously you blaming him/her for whatever happened to you.
About what happened for the rest of your classmates you just writing the story what you was told with some spicy salsa on top.
Again you are trapped with all this stories about former students/owners/accident's and so on.
As you mentioned you didn't lose money but you acting like you was robbed.
Mate get a life and move on just a friendly advice.
Buddy I will leave it here as it is because I can see clearly you took it personal.
Whatever I said you came up with some information with too much details and asking me as student to answer things I don't know and I don't care to know I have more important things to do than to dig for stupid information, but again you are not from the inside and you just repeat the rumours from others.
You are going forward and backwards about same things and asking stuff that only the owner can answer.
So why you don't get in touch with the owner and find in a common language a solution about YOUR problem and ask all of this fancy questions, here is clear you haven't an issue with the academy but with the owner and continuously you blaming him/her for whatever happened to you.
About what happened for the rest of your classmates you just writing the story what you was told with some spicy salsa on top.
Again you are trapped with all this stories about former students/owners/accident's and so on.
As you mentioned you didn't lose money but you acting like you was robbed.
Mate get a life and move on just a friendly advice.
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I am not your buddy. If you cannot answer, don't answer at all. You are diminishing the issue with little personal attacks. Really?
What a dialectical genius you are. And if I made all I said up I could just say the same about you and your training. Which would be futile.
I am not here to discuss what should I do with the owner but just to inform others of my experience there which you constantly try to discredit.
If the owner wants to shed some light he is more than free to write on this thread.
Also a friendly reminder. Try a bit harder not to get a spoiled attitude like those so many in aviation you warned us about.
I am not your buddy. If you cannot answer, don't answer at all. You are diminishing the issue with little personal attacks. Really?
What a dialectical genius you are. And if I made all I said up I could just say the same about you and your training. Which would be futile.
I am not here to discuss what should I do with the owner but just to inform others of my experience there which you constantly try to discredit.
If the owner wants to shed some light he is more than free to write on this thread.
Also a friendly reminder. Try a bit harder not to get a spoiled attitude like those so many in aviation you warned us about.
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There are folks sending me PM asking whether it would still be ok to get a EASA conversion with Olympus Aviation Academy. They are so cheap they think.. While I was there I met with 20s former OAA students who like me ended with nothing but around 10k to 13k€ lost tuition fees and several months of confrontations.
We all being forced to leave that school with partial training after various dramas, as serious as air accidents. Think about about it, 20s former students had lost at least 10k that's assuredly 200.000€ gone! And what about other former OAA students I haven't heard about their struggles?
How about the instructors who had left cause they were not getting their due pay? Depending where on Earth you come from, some of you guys might call the gone students with empty pockets losers, while some others of you would just see this plunging well into criminality! I don't even know the state of OAA right now but if it happens you met it’s boss, Stavros Anastasiadis, get to the hell out there.
Whatever it's at OAA or any other flight schools he is trying to open up! He has hurt so many student pilots and even their families for so many years, with all possible manipulations, debts and dramas. There are many better flight schools in Greece!
I've been looking for flight school well before landing at OAA, it's hard to choose a flight schools many have their own issues. One school I visited before OAA, the students from there made me aware about all the issues they experienced. They were honest with me and made me aware about their school crippled with debts and they were 15 students trapped with only one airplane.
I was thankful to them, it takes courage to denounce abnormalities in aviation, and kept looking elsewhere. As I faced so many issues with OAA, now it's my turn to let potential new students aware about a terrible experience for me and other of my classmates.
We all being forced to leave that school with partial training after various dramas, as serious as air accidents. Think about about it, 20s former students had lost at least 10k that's assuredly 200.000€ gone! And what about other former OAA students I haven't heard about their struggles?
How about the instructors who had left cause they were not getting their due pay? Depending where on Earth you come from, some of you guys might call the gone students with empty pockets losers, while some others of you would just see this plunging well into criminality! I don't even know the state of OAA right now but if it happens you met it’s boss, Stavros Anastasiadis, get to the hell out there.
Whatever it's at OAA or any other flight schools he is trying to open up! He has hurt so many student pilots and even their families for so many years, with all possible manipulations, debts and dramas. There are many better flight schools in Greece!
I've been looking for flight school well before landing at OAA, it's hard to choose a flight schools many have their own issues. One school I visited before OAA, the students from there made me aware about all the issues they experienced. They were honest with me and made me aware about their school crippled with debts and they were 15 students trapped with only one airplane.
I was thankful to them, it takes courage to denounce abnormalities in aviation, and kept looking elsewhere. As I faced so many issues with OAA, now it's my turn to let potential new students aware about a terrible experience for me and other of my classmates.
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Now, I don't want the OAA misery to impact the reputation of other Greek flight schools. I would like to answer to those who are interested in doing foreign pilot license conversions and other flight training in Greece, there are flight schools I could recommend based on where former OAA students had been rescued. Off course, for those who could afford paying once again for their training, the cheap OAA thing ended costing more than honest options.
Since the first OAA accident in 2015, many of their former students has been rescued by Sky Aviation Academy. More recently by Ionian Aviation also saved the flight training of some other former students. After having lost 1 to 2 years with the Olympus drama series, they finally got there pilot licenses.. It is not an easy business to a flight school to rescue students with partial and disrupted trainings, who hadn't been flying for months, not to mention the time spent with paperwork to comply with the HCAA.
Those who really want to be trained in Northern Greece (which might be why you get interested about OAA), you have 2 school I can recommend after meeting with their students: Egnatia and Skies Aviation Academy. Egnatia is expensive and the enrollment waiting list might be long, they might be crowed of students, but they are well known across Europe. Skies Aviation Academy, based in Thessaloniki and flying in Alexandroupoli (and probably from a second airport by now) is a more affordable option and most of my friends get their pilot licenses with them. I can say they are not perfect, but they are serious, they get training done and respect their students. If you live in Thessaloniki and are interested about getting a PPL first, why not getting in touch with the Thessaloniki Aeroclub? I don't know anyone who had been train with them would be good to have a feedback. You can then do the CPL IR ME with any other flight schools then after.
For those who just want pilot conversions, especially all the foreigners who PM me, why would you go with a flight school from Northern Greece while you have to go to Athens to sit your 14 written hassle exams with the Greek CAA the HCAA? (I've met with foreign commercial pilots who had felt several times some of these haha!). Ionian Aviation has recently helped OAA students completing their training and getting there pilot licenses. They are based in Athens and fly mostly in Megara, I won't say they are perfect but they helped my friends getting though their flight trainings. Many Foreigner went to OAA to get their foreign license conversions, they had to travel a lot between Thessaloniki, where OAA is based, and Athens, where the HCAA conduct the exams, don't you think it's costly and tiring to travel many times for exams? In my knowledge Ionian Aviation might be the only flight schools based in Athens area that is flexible enough to accept short trainings. Unlike other schools in Megara where if you don't enroll to integrated ATPL or at least a complete CPL flight training, they'd barely talk to you (at least they make load and clear they don't want to train you, unlike OAA that collect your money first and leave you alone if they can't provide you with training).
Good luck
Since the first OAA accident in 2015, many of their former students has been rescued by Sky Aviation Academy. More recently by Ionian Aviation also saved the flight training of some other former students. After having lost 1 to 2 years with the Olympus drama series, they finally got there pilot licenses.. It is not an easy business to a flight school to rescue students with partial and disrupted trainings, who hadn't been flying for months, not to mention the time spent with paperwork to comply with the HCAA.
Those who really want to be trained in Northern Greece (which might be why you get interested about OAA), you have 2 school I can recommend after meeting with their students: Egnatia and Skies Aviation Academy. Egnatia is expensive and the enrollment waiting list might be long, they might be crowed of students, but they are well known across Europe. Skies Aviation Academy, based in Thessaloniki and flying in Alexandroupoli (and probably from a second airport by now) is a more affordable option and most of my friends get their pilot licenses with them. I can say they are not perfect, but they are serious, they get training done and respect their students. If you live in Thessaloniki and are interested about getting a PPL first, why not getting in touch with the Thessaloniki Aeroclub? I don't know anyone who had been train with them would be good to have a feedback. You can then do the CPL IR ME with any other flight schools then after.
For those who just want pilot conversions, especially all the foreigners who PM me, why would you go with a flight school from Northern Greece while you have to go to Athens to sit your 14 written hassle exams with the Greek CAA the HCAA? (I've met with foreign commercial pilots who had felt several times some of these haha!). Ionian Aviation has recently helped OAA students completing their training and getting there pilot licenses. They are based in Athens and fly mostly in Megara, I won't say they are perfect but they helped my friends getting though their flight trainings. Many Foreigner went to OAA to get their foreign license conversions, they had to travel a lot between Thessaloniki, where OAA is based, and Athens, where the HCAA conduct the exams, don't you think it's costly and tiring to travel many times for exams? In my knowledge Ionian Aviation might be the only flight schools based in Athens area that is flexible enough to accept short trainings. Unlike other schools in Megara where if you don't enroll to integrated ATPL or at least a complete CPL flight training, they'd barely talk to you (at least they make load and clear they don't want to train you, unlike OAA that collect your money first and leave you alone if they can't provide you with training).
Good luck
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Ladies, Gents,
If you want to do your flight training in Megara, Greece. Go to Global aviation, and nowhere else !
I have recently worked shortly at Ionian Aviation, their neighbors, will not recommend them !
Fly safe.
If you want to do your flight training in Megara, Greece. Go to Global aviation, and nowhere else !
I have recently worked shortly at Ionian Aviation, their neighbors, will not recommend them !
Fly safe.
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Hello Gerpols, Global Aviation seems to be an interesting school for those doing CPL and integrated ATPL. When asked for shorter training the politely declined as their priority is (was?) to longer term training. Also, friend who lost his ATPL modular training with Olympus has tried to get at least a PPL before leaving from Greece. Yes at Olympus even PPL was not possible to get! After we finally convince this former student he is going nowhere with OAA, he contacted Global Aviation but they declined PPL training stating they don't offer this training which is curious to me as Global provide modular ATPL. At least they proposed him to get in touch with Mesogeion Aeroclubat Tatoi Airport instead.
Concerning Ionian, could you please elaborate your experience? Would be useful to many potential students. I said again, they are not perfect, but 2 of my friend former OAA scammed students get their training saved but Ionian. One completed his multi-engine with them and another get the ATPL. I suggested Ionian specially to all these guys asking me if they still can to do EASA ATPL conversion with Olympus despite the horrible experience I endured there.
Concerning Ionian, could you please elaborate your experience? Would be useful to many potential students. I said again, they are not perfect, but 2 of my friend former OAA scammed students get their training saved but Ionian. One completed his multi-engine with them and another get the ATPL. I suggested Ionian specially to all these guys asking me if they still can to do EASA ATPL conversion with Olympus despite the horrible experience I endured there.
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Ladies, Gents,
Received a few private messages concerning my previous post.
All I would like to say is the following:
Before you choose which ATO you would like to do your training, and make any payments towards that ATO, do the following:
GO AND VISIT THE PLACE.............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Speak to the CEO, Accountable Manager, Head of Training, Chief Pilot, Flight Instructors, Ground Instructors, and above all: students !!
Check their location at the airport, check their maintenance facilities, check the housing facilities offered, check the maintenance situation of the aircraft, are the instructors professional flight instructors or part timers looking for some extra income ?
My basic understanding after 40 years in aviation is:
If he or she, looks like a pilot, is dressed like a pilot, talks like a pilot, acts like a pilot....he probably is a pilot !
Good luck !
Received a few private messages concerning my previous post.
All I would like to say is the following:
Before you choose which ATO you would like to do your training, and make any payments towards that ATO, do the following:
GO AND VISIT THE PLACE.............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Speak to the CEO, Accountable Manager, Head of Training, Chief Pilot, Flight Instructors, Ground Instructors, and above all: students !!
Check their location at the airport, check their maintenance facilities, check the housing facilities offered, check the maintenance situation of the aircraft, are the instructors professional flight instructors or part timers looking for some extra income ?
My basic understanding after 40 years in aviation is:
If he or she, looks like a pilot, is dressed like a pilot, talks like a pilot, acts like a pilot....he probably is a pilot !
Good luck !
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I can't agree more about going and visiting places, many places! You are right! This is what we have done my former classmates and I, we visited so many flight schools, the good ones have months of waiting list and/or are advertised as cheap, and many are hard to communicate with even after spending time visiting them. Stavros Anastasiadis looks like a pilot, is dressed like a pilot, talks like a pilot, acts like a pilot... he was a great military fighter pilot but aged pretty badly, many would tell you this. He is answering exactly what student expect to hear from a potential flight school. He seemed accommodating and experienced but as soon we started paying communication sharply changed and no longer respected us, he is a great comedian I recommend him trying soap opera melodrama auditions! Some former OAA's students even come with their parents from Greece and abroad, they placed their kids in delicate situation.
We were lied about the number of aircraft and aircraft types, even the location of the airport we were supposed to fly, the proximity with maintenance facilities, housing support.. By the way, several flight schools excuses to not present their fleet are their aircraft based away from their headquarter or/and the need of airport security pass to access the aircraft! We even met some OAA students on the premises of the school, they use a few of them to present well unfortunately. Some of these students have their family close to Anastasiadis, other have trapped too much cash in this school, it is there way to "save their money spent". In leaving they lost everything.
We were lied about the number of aircraft and aircraft types, even the location of the airport we were supposed to fly, the proximity with maintenance facilities, housing support.. By the way, several flight schools excuses to not present their fleet are their aircraft based away from their headquarter or/and the need of airport security pass to access the aircraft! We even met some OAA students on the premises of the school, they use a few of them to present well unfortunately. Some of these students have their family close to Anastasiadis, other have trapped too much cash in this school, it is there way to "save their money spent". In leaving they lost everything.
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Ladies, Gents, Rosi,
Ionian Aviation lost their one and only multi engine airplane september 2019. It did not set the parking brake on the main platform, and taxied into one of Global airplanes.
Their Piper Seneca III is still parked on the main platform, without engines.
I am not going to elaborate on this forum about my experience as Chief Pilot with Ionian Aviation.
I personally think it is not professional to talk bad, about previous employers.
Fly safe
Ionian Aviation lost their one and only multi engine airplane september 2019. It did not set the parking brake on the main platform, and taxied into one of Global airplanes.
Their Piper Seneca III is still parked on the main platform, without engines.
I am not going to elaborate on this forum about my experience as Chief Pilot with Ionian Aviation.
I personally think it is not professional to talk bad, about previous employers.
Fly safe
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i still have a case going to get my 21.000€ back... I started begin 2015, all looked great but then the crashes happend, they lied and continued groundschool. What happend was this -> school was officialy closed but they didnt tell us. So all our money and efforts were for nothing. All the rent and costs were for nothing. After more than 15 months when we were applying force to continue flying etc it came out that all operations were ceased. Its one big scam. So I decided since I am allready there in greece to change school. The result was simple, I had to start completly over from zero... I am in heavy debt now and still cant get my money back, lost so many time also...
I heared they operate " somehow " but if you still decide to go, tell them that you want to pay by bank transfer and not by hand. He will ask to pay by hand and give you extra disscount but my friends who payed by hand could not start a legal case against him.
take care and happy flying
I heared they operate " somehow " but if you still decide to go, tell them that you want to pay by bank transfer and not by hand. He will ask to pay by hand and give you extra disscount but my friends who payed by hand could not start a legal case against him.
take care and happy flying
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Hi Meto2k, sorry to learn your story. Unfortunately, this is still ongoing and everything you said has happened to so many after you. Why would you recommend to pay him by bank transfer instead of going to the school you went with after? OAA is a scam period.
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Review as an active student
Hello everyone
i just read all the reviews and i would like to make it all clear for the people who are interested to join the academy
First of all I'm one of the arab students who paid 1/3 installment of the total price and by doing this it was actually easier for us to get the visa and as far as i know all of students got their visas facing no problems... Other thing is i know some older students and i also met them they finished their training in a short time ... I know the academy got a small fleet but that didn't stop them to finish their flight training fast..... Lastly all instructors are great and very experienced some of them are active airline pilots others were in the airforce ..
I'm here because i think it's good to leave a review as an active student in the academy and i think it's fair to say the truth
Thank you for reading my review
stay safe and Keep blue side up
My best regards
i just read all the reviews and i would like to make it all clear for the people who are interested to join the academy
First of all I'm one of the arab students who paid 1/3 installment of the total price and by doing this it was actually easier for us to get the visa and as far as i know all of students got their visas facing no problems... Other thing is i know some older students and i also met them they finished their training in a short time ... I know the academy got a small fleet but that didn't stop them to finish their flight training fast..... Lastly all instructors are great and very experienced some of them are active airline pilots others were in the airforce ..
I'm here because i think it's good to leave a review as an active student in the academy and i think it's fair to say the truth
Thank you for reading my review
stay safe and Keep blue side up
My best regards
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Greetings Haytham
While I wholeheartedly respect your review I cannot help but feel it seems a bit forced. More like an advertisement it looks rather than a robust position on the pros and cons of the school. Maybe some graduate students who have already found a job in aviation could shed more light? Potential clients need to know every parameter of a potential endeavour don't you think? Especially in these times where there is uncertainty in almost every profession not just in aviation because of Covid. Every supporter of the school here either outright rejects negative arguments or gives generic pros,or both, and that always seems to happen when too many negative reviews foregather. I don't know if Stauros or Eliza put you or others to write here but at least try not to give only generic information that many here have already heard or seen before. Everyone is not that naive.
Nevertheless I wish you good fortune and especially good health.
As salamu alaykum
While I wholeheartedly respect your review I cannot help but feel it seems a bit forced. More like an advertisement it looks rather than a robust position on the pros and cons of the school. Maybe some graduate students who have already found a job in aviation could shed more light? Potential clients need to know every parameter of a potential endeavour don't you think? Especially in these times where there is uncertainty in almost every profession not just in aviation because of Covid. Every supporter of the school here either outright rejects negative arguments or gives generic pros,or both, and that always seems to happen when too many negative reviews foregather. I don't know if Stauros or Eliza put you or others to write here but at least try not to give only generic information that many here have already heard or seen before. Everyone is not that naive.
Nevertheless I wish you good fortune and especially good health.
As salamu alaykum
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Anastasiadis is still at it again.
So, on the new website of OAA, he still has in his school’s description, the following false informations & even modified them.
1. Flight OPS are conducted in LGTS
2. 4 fleet- 2 SEPs & 2 MEP
3. SIM
4. transportation for students from their homes to the school, & from their homes to the aerodrome, & back.
5. School is owned by veteran airforce pilots, airline pilots etc
6. “friendly enviroment”
Unfortunately, some people would see all these plus the juicy “cheap” price & go to this school, unfortunately.
first of all, lemme break down the 6 false informations above before i hive you a full detail about OAA or HAA, whatever it is called now.
1. Flight OPS are conducted in LGTS(macedonia airport) = NO!!!!!!. All flight OPS for ATOs in N.Greece take place at LGAL(Alexandroupoli airport).Once upon a time, flight schools at SKG actually operated from LGTS as their major base,but Fraport asked all the aviation schools to cease operations from LGTS & move, back in 2018. Now fraport is the german authority that took over Greek airports back in 2017, from the control of Elliniko in exchange for €1.4B. When fraport took over, the system changed & restrictions became more stringent. Flight schools especially OAA & sometimes skies,were sometimes violating Maneuvering area regulations. Some SAA & OAA planes had some incidents on the maneuvering area, Stavros & a skies instructor ones had an altercation on the maneuvering area as well, it was this incident that made fraport to order everyone to move.
2. 4fleet= they indeed have 2 C172 SEPs,rented ofcourse. But OAA HAS NO MEPs,NOT EVEN RENTED.1 of the MEPs on OAA’s page,the black one,”belonged” to ionian aviation at Megara. The other MEP,the white one on their page is a scrap that hasn't been flown in years,& the owner is a privileged fellow that hardly comes around. If you pay stavros for Modular ATPL or integrated, mark this,when it is time for MEP trainjng,you will be semt to a guy with a MEP at megara, he will ask you to give him €5000 for him to train you. Meanwhile, Stavros already collected MEP fees from you. Those who go to OAA for MEP are the ones that are usually safe.
3. SIM= NO THEY DONT!!!. On OAA’s page, the FNPTII SIM displayed belongs to JetSIMS at Sparta,a long distance from the LGAV(E.Venizelos airport athens). They just send you to Athens all the way from LGAL, for a month to do the SIMS.But this isnt stated on the website.
4. Transportation from your home to the airport “sometimes. Transportation from your home to the academy- well, on your first day, yes.
5. OAA is owned by only 1 person- former Hellenic Airforce flight instructor Stavros Anastasiadis.
6. Friendly enviroment=After you do your first solo or after some payments have been made, things just start to get weird. Stavros is a millitary man, he is well versed in the art of “divide & rule”. If he sees that a particular student is getting too clever in his activities, he finds ways to stir the minds pf other students & frustrate the person.
NEXT POST BELOW IS FOR THOSE THAT STILL WANT TO GO TO OAA, & a liitle bio on OAA & Anastasiadis Stavros, the conman.
1. Flight OPS are conducted in LGTS
2. 4 fleet- 2 SEPs & 2 MEP
3. SIM
4. transportation for students from their homes to the school, & from their homes to the aerodrome, & back.
5. School is owned by veteran airforce pilots, airline pilots etc
6. “friendly enviroment”
Unfortunately, some people would see all these plus the juicy “cheap” price & go to this school, unfortunately.
first of all, lemme break down the 6 false informations above before i hive you a full detail about OAA or HAA, whatever it is called now.
1. Flight OPS are conducted in LGTS(macedonia airport) = NO!!!!!!. All flight OPS for ATOs in N.Greece take place at LGAL(Alexandroupoli airport).Once upon a time, flight schools at SKG actually operated from LGTS as their major base,but Fraport asked all the aviation schools to cease operations from LGTS & move, back in 2018. Now fraport is the german authority that took over Greek airports back in 2017, from the control of Elliniko in exchange for €1.4B. When fraport took over, the system changed & restrictions became more stringent. Flight schools especially OAA & sometimes skies,were sometimes violating Maneuvering area regulations. Some SAA & OAA planes had some incidents on the maneuvering area, Stavros & a skies instructor ones had an altercation on the maneuvering area as well, it was this incident that made fraport to order everyone to move.
2. 4fleet= they indeed have 2 C172 SEPs,rented ofcourse. But OAA HAS NO MEPs,NOT EVEN RENTED.1 of the MEPs on OAA’s page,the black one,”belonged” to ionian aviation at Megara. The other MEP,the white one on their page is a scrap that hasn't been flown in years,& the owner is a privileged fellow that hardly comes around. If you pay stavros for Modular ATPL or integrated, mark this,when it is time for MEP trainjng,you will be semt to a guy with a MEP at megara, he will ask you to give him €5000 for him to train you. Meanwhile, Stavros already collected MEP fees from you. Those who go to OAA for MEP are the ones that are usually safe.
3. SIM= NO THEY DONT!!!. On OAA’s page, the FNPTII SIM displayed belongs to JetSIMS at Sparta,a long distance from the LGAV(E.Venizelos airport athens). They just send you to Athens all the way from LGAL, for a month to do the SIMS.But this isnt stated on the website.
4. Transportation from your home to the airport “sometimes. Transportation from your home to the academy- well, on your first day, yes.
5. OAA is owned by only 1 person- former Hellenic Airforce flight instructor Stavros Anastasiadis.
6. Friendly enviroment=After you do your first solo or after some payments have been made, things just start to get weird. Stavros is a millitary man, he is well versed in the art of “divide & rule”. If he sees that a particular student is getting too clever in his activities, he finds ways to stir the minds pf other students & frustrate the person.
NEXT POST BELOW IS FOR THOSE THAT STILL WANT TO GO TO OAA, & a liitle bio on OAA & Anastasiadis Stavros, the conman.
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I still want to enroll into OAA
Well,your stay would either not last or you would finish a broken person. Donot get me wrong,Stavros is a good pilot,but a terrible business man. You will learn the basic skills, but a lot of things would be omitted from your trainjng. On the day of your skill test,dont worry, forgeries would be made to compensate.
To survive OAA for a considerable duration of your stay, adhere to the following;-
1. Always keep in mind, this famous greek saying-
“BEWARE OF THE GIFT BARING GREEK”.
The offer is juicy,but ask yourself,”how cheap is ‘cheap?”. So, sign no contract only with your lawyer. But if you are not Greek,PRAY!. Bcs if things go south & you want your money back,it eill never happen. So you might resort to using EASA & the media. Fighting him is no use,a former SP fought him & he called the cops on him. You know what they say abt greek police- “DONOT TRUST GREEK POLICE”.
2. DO NOT LAUGH WITH NOR GET TOO FRIENDLY WITH STAVROS
3. Do not get friendly with anyone who is friendly with stavros
4. Donot get friendly with anyone who is fruendly eith the person that is friendly with Stavros.
5. After each flight,MAKE HIM SIGN YOUR LOGBOOK.
6. BE ANTISOCIAL
7. Operate in secrete
8. Donot enroll as an integrated SP. Go the modular way. Then do installmentsl payments. So that when things go south,you wont loose much money. Bcs you will never get your money back.
9. The first signs of shady behavior,do not shove it off,do not confront.It wont get better,JUST LEAVE!
9. Donot rely on everything you are told,for immigration advice & HCAA/EASA rules,gcheck their websites or ask other schools. It is better to be safe.
Ladies and gentlemen,you need to understand that,Greece was devastated by the economic downturn,& more & more people got desperate. There are lots of schools out there,but only very few are aimed at making money & fulfilling your career aspirations. Majority are just out to make money. There is no such thing as “cheap flight training”. There is no such thing as the best aviation school either. From the best to the worse,they have some faults,
To survive OAA for a considerable duration of your stay, adhere to the following;-
1. Always keep in mind, this famous greek saying-
“BEWARE OF THE GIFT BARING GREEK”.
The offer is juicy,but ask yourself,”how cheap is ‘cheap?”. So, sign no contract only with your lawyer. But if you are not Greek,PRAY!. Bcs if things go south & you want your money back,it eill never happen. So you might resort to using EASA & the media. Fighting him is no use,a former SP fought him & he called the cops on him. You know what they say abt greek police- “DONOT TRUST GREEK POLICE”.
2. DO NOT LAUGH WITH NOR GET TOO FRIENDLY WITH STAVROS
3. Do not get friendly with anyone who is friendly with stavros
4. Donot get friendly with anyone who is fruendly eith the person that is friendly with Stavros.
5. After each flight,MAKE HIM SIGN YOUR LOGBOOK.
6. BE ANTISOCIAL
7. Operate in secrete
8. Donot enroll as an integrated SP. Go the modular way. Then do installmentsl payments. So that when things go south,you wont loose much money. Bcs you will never get your money back.
9. The first signs of shady behavior,do not shove it off,do not confront.It wont get better,JUST LEAVE!
9. Donot rely on everything you are told,for immigration advice & HCAA/EASA rules,gcheck their websites or ask other schools. It is better to be safe.
Ladies and gentlemen,you need to understand that,Greece was devastated by the economic downturn,& more & more people got desperate. There are lots of schools out there,but only very few are aimed at making money & fulfilling your career aspirations. Majority are just out to make money. There is no such thing as “cheap flight training”. There is no such thing as the best aviation school either. From the best to the worse,they have some faults,
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My experience
no need to waste your time reading this
if in doubt find a different academy, but i think it’s fair to say the truth about my experience
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Former instructor in OAA
Hello,
i used to be the main theoretical knowledge instructor of OAA and i would like to share my experience. I was doing the majority of the subjects of the school running all the syllabus and organising everything in groundschool. Unfortunately in the beginning of 2023 i was diagnosed with cancer in blood and i stopped working for a long time. After a financial mistake that they did i didn't have health insurance (which is provided by paying taxes as a part of your salary) . I asked for my health insurance to be recognised , and the authorities made a financial check in the academy about this and gave them a big fine. The result ? I got fired during fighting with cancer just because i asked for my paid health insurance. Shame on them. Immoral human beings with no respect to anything... Fortunately i am healthy right now and i have moved to another organised and better academy as an instructor... Dont waste any euro to them... And my friend from above be prepared for everything with this people...
i hope you will not regret this...
i used to be the main theoretical knowledge instructor of OAA and i would like to share my experience. I was doing the majority of the subjects of the school running all the syllabus and organising everything in groundschool. Unfortunately in the beginning of 2023 i was diagnosed with cancer in blood and i stopped working for a long time. After a financial mistake that they did i didn't have health insurance (which is provided by paying taxes as a part of your salary) . I asked for my health insurance to be recognised , and the authorities made a financial check in the academy about this and gave them a big fine. The result ? I got fired during fighting with cancer just because i asked for my paid health insurance. Shame on them. Immoral human beings with no respect to anything... Fortunately i am healthy right now and i have moved to another organised and better academy as an instructor... Dont waste any euro to them... And my friend from above be prepared for everything with this people...
i hope you will not regret this...
