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Old 16th Jul 2018, 17:11
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I would think the 1500hrs flight time requirement only applies to the USA, not EASA or EU pilots. Someone correct me if I'm wrong there but that's what I'm aware of.
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Old 17th Jul 2018, 08:35
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Originally Posted by Nurse2Pilot View Post
I would think the 1500hrs flight time requirement only applies to the USA, not EASA or EU pilots. Someone correct me if I'm wrong there but that's what I'm aware of.
You can always get an interview; 1500h is the amount of hours in the EU to get your "frozen" ATPL "unfrozen".
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Old 17th Jul 2018, 18:58
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So he doesn't have to pay for those 1500hrs (or 1250hrs) but rather get paid as he works from 250hrs to 1500hrs, right?
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Old 17th Jul 2018, 19:26
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Originally Posted by Nurse2Pilot View Post
So he doesn't have to pay for those 1500hrs (or 1250hrs) but rather get paid as he works from 250hrs to 1500hrs, right?
There’s generally two types of positions advertised. The first is what most will look for, they’re low hour cadet positions like Ryanair.

The other, for example, is like BA who require a certain number of hours (1000hrs as an example) and often on aircraft over a certain weight. BA have their own cadet programme so they would rather take new pilots from there or hire more experienced pilots from other airlines etc.

You should search for low hour pilot jobs and see what they require, then compare that to what your training gets you. Being realistic, nobody is going to finish their training and walk into their local flag carrier unless they’re on a tagged scheme.


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Old 17th Jul 2018, 19:41
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I was just asking/clarifying in reference to the original concerns by Silverds88 above where he thinks he needs to have 1500hrs before an airline interview which I believe is a US requirement but not here in EASA/EU.

1500hrs and an unfrozen ATPL opens a lot of doors if I'm reading stories correctly but that still doesn't mean a low-hour (250hrs) pilot is out of luck, right?
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Old 17th Jul 2018, 19:42
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Be careful of the differences between FAA and EASA.

For EASA multi crew aircraft, you only need a CPL and IR to be a first officer, which you can get with 200 hours (or less if you go integrated).

An ATPL is only required to be a captain. That's when you need 1500 hours (amongst other things). Most airlines want 3-4,000 hours to get a command anyway, so there's no rush..

Plenty of European airlines are hiring people with 200 hours.
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Old 17th Jul 2018, 20:15
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Thanks for that confirmation, rudestuff! So an applicant for FO with 200hrs is a reality; I guess once you're in, that 1500hrs will come with the territory after a few years!
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 08:08
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Modular Training in Hungary

Hi all! I am looking at going down the modular route for my fATPL. I plan on doing PPL, hours building, ATPL theory, CPL, MEP CR & MEP-IR. I will then come back to the UK for MCC/JOT.

Does anyone know if going to a non-UK, cheaper school out in Hungary will have a negative effect on prospects once back in the UK? There is a number of schools near Bp that offer these courses and I plan to go and visit, but I won't really be able to find out what reputation these schools have with UK airlines.

TIA
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 00:18
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Looking for an aviation college

Hi everyone

I'm a Belgium senior high school student. I'm obsessed by aviation and I already got my PLL. My dream is to become a commercial pilot. My goal is to get my ATPL as fast as possible but I would also want a (usefull) university degree as a backup. I'm looking for a college which offers aviation related degrees and doesn't stretch my ATPL training to much. There options are very limited in Belgium so I was thinking about the UK or US but I don't know where to start.

Most my grades are around 70%-75%. Costs and fees aren't a reall issue but the cheaper the better as long as the quality stays the same.

Small sidenote: I don't have my ppl yet but I'm done with my training. I'm now waiting for my 17th birthday to do my exam.

Kind regards
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 17:01
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Originally Posted by PilotYannick View Post
Hi everyone

I'm a Belgium senior high school student. I'm obsessed by aviation and I already got my PLL. My dream is to become a commercial pilot. My goal is to get my ATPL as fast as possible but I would also want a (usefull) university degree as a backup. I'm looking for a college which offers aviation related degrees and doesn't stretch my ATPL training to much. There options are very limited in Belgium so I was thinking about the UK or US but I don't know where to start.

Most my grades are around 70%-75%. Costs and fees aren't a reall issue but the cheaper the better as long as the quality stays the same.

Small sidenote: I don't have my ppl yet but I'm done with my training. I'm now waiting for my 17th birthday to do my exam.

Kind regards
Hi there, I am in a similar situation. I started PPL when I was 16.Got my license when I was 17.I too intend to complete a degree. I have looking forward at the degree offered by the Kingston University, UK. Bsc. in Aviation Studies for Commercial Pilot Training(UCAS CODE :H461) About two years back they offered a top up degree where you can skip the first two years and get into third year. The requirements were a PPL and ATPL theory completed. But now you have to have A/Ls or some recognised previous education or a foundation degree with them. That means it takes two years time for me as I will have to do a foundation degree. The fees were around 9000eur per year. Not exactly sure about the fees. Do yourself a quick research and you'll find out. This degree is now not listed in their website but if you email them they'll answer your questions. My plan is to complete ATPL and CPL and apply to an airline. If I am unsuccessful I'll go with the degree and try applying again.
BTW when do you turn 17?
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 19:30
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Guys/Gals,

Don't be so stead fast on you pursuit to the RHS of a jet. Use your youth to party, travel, mess up and plainly enjoy yourself... trust me the seat isn't as comfortable after a few years anyways.

C.A
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 20:54
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Originally Posted by Contact Approach View Post
Guys/Gals,

Don't be so stead fast on you pursuit to the RHS of a jet. Use your youth to party, travel, mess up and plainly enjoy yourself... trust me the seat isn't as comfortable after a few years anyways.

C.A
Life isn't as easy or simple we think it is sometimes, sorry to hear you're not enjoying it anymore I guess the novelty does wear off sooner than you think
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 20:58
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Originally Posted by Contact Approach View Post
Guys/Gals,

Don't be so stead fast on you pursuit to the RHS of a jet. Use your youth to party, travel, mess up and plainly enjoy yourself... trust me the seat isn't as comfortable after a few years anyways.

C.A
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 11:06
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What courses to increase employability

Afternoon all,

After some research I think Iíve nailed down my choice of modular flying school, my decision will be definite after a visit sometime this week.

The school offers a fast track course from zero to frozen hero.

Iíve heard that modular wonít always have the connections to airline HR like an integrated school would. My question is what courses could be obtained down the line to improve employability.

Hope that makes sense

Look forward to future responses

Adam
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 04:26
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Originally Posted by Tharaka737 View Post
Hi there, I am in a similar situation. I started PPL when I was 16.Got my license when I was 17.I too intend to complete a degree.

I have looking forward at the degree offered by the Kingston University, UK. Bsc. in Aviation Studies for Commercial Pilot Training(UCAS CODE :H461) About two years back they offered a top up degree where you can skip the first two years and get into third year.

The requirements were a PPL and ATPL theory completed. But now you have to have A/Ls or some recognised previous education or a foundation degree with them. That means it takes two years time for me as I will have to do a foundation degree. The fees were around 9000eur per year. Not exactly sure about the fees.

Do yourself a quick research and you'll find out. This degree is now not listed in their website but if you email them they'll answer your questions. My plan is to complete ATPL and CPL and apply to an airline. If I am unsuccessful I'll go with the degree and try applying again.

BTW when do you turn 17?
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Thanks your post it helped a lot. What specific degree is this? I'm 16 now my birthday is the 22th of October. I really hope that the weather will be good enough to fly.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 13:51
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Originally Posted by AngelsTen View Post
Afternoon all,

After some research I think Iíve nailed down my choice of modular flying school, my decision will be definite after a visit sometime this week.

The school offers a fast track course from zero to frozen hero.

Iíve heard that modular wonít always have the connections to airline HR like an integrated school would. My question is what courses could be obtained down the line to improve employability.

Hope that makes sense

Look forward to future responses

Adam
Just out of interest which school did you choose? And have you done your ATPL theory yet?
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 05:23
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Originally Posted by PelicanSquawk View Post
Just out of interest which school did you choose? And have you done your ATPL theory yet?
Potentationally Aeros In Coventry, no not done the ATPL theory yet.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 05:47
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Originally Posted by PilotYannick View Post
Thanks your post it helped a lot. What specific degree is this? I'm 16 now my birthday is the 22th of October. I really hope that the weather will be good enough to fly.
This is a Bachelors degree :
https://www.kingston.ac.uk/undergrad...ilot-training/
Wish you best of luck with the flight test.
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Old 15th Aug 2018, 17:50
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Question Need help looking for a flight school in U.K. for integrated APTL.

Hello guys,

This is Nelson, from Macau (Located near H.K.). Portuguese passport holder (EU citizen).

I am looking for a flight school in U.K. (Because studying in U.K. the dream of my lifetime ) with a good reputation, and suitable for a self-fund student (From 0 to ATPL) to apply an integrated ATPL.

The following flight school always appear on aviation forums, what do you think about them? Any good suggestions for flight school other than them?

CAE Oxford
L3
Airways Aviation
Aeros Flight Training
CATS Aviation Training
Skies aviation academy
Airways aviation
Craven College

Please share your experience/ rumours about the flight school on above/ the school you're recommended, your feedback will be absolutely valuable to my future pathway on aviation.

Thank you soooo much guys!
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 11:32
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CPL MEP IR

Hello

Im about to finish my hour building stage and be ready for a CPL/MEP/IR. Im wondering how much the price of the courses will actually be compared to the advertised ones ? Like any good rule of thumb for example +10-20% of the advertised one ? Im pretty sure that the actual prices will be more just like with PPL where the price advertised is just for the minimum requirements but barely anyone makes it with the minimum. And also does anyone know any good CPL/MEP/IR offers out there in europe at the moment ?
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