View Poll Results: Type rating?
Bought Type rating - got the job
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Bought Type rating - told "need time on type"
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16.67%
You were told buy the type and get the job - but did not get a job offer anyway
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16.67%
Voters: 6. This poll is closed
Type Rating - which type, where, why pay etc?
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Well some airlines here have training bonds, they give you type rating and hours on jets, but you have to stay with them for certain number of years, and they take certan percent of your paycheck. From what I have said before, I have seen many people taking that route in Canada.
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I think i will go for the commuter flying such as the seneca. But what is classed as a turbine. I'm not even PPL yet but I want to complete everything by the end of 2007 well at least get to flying instructor.
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If that is your goal, you have a lot to learn about the industry, and you must consider that you will have little choice of first flying job - you have to take what is available at the time.
Do you really understand the industry well enough to join it yet?
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A330etc... - May I suggest a different career? You obviously have access to the internet and have done very little research off your own back. To fly an an aircraft, either privately or commercially, you have to be capable of a certain amount of self study and certainly be capable of "hitting the ground running". Maybe when you have taken your GCSE's...
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Have you been along to do the independent GAPAN aptitude tests?
If that is your goal, you have a lot to learn about the industry, and you must consider that you will have little choice of first flying job - you have to take what is available at the time.
Do you really understand the industry well enough to join it yet?
If that is your goal, you have a lot to learn about the industry, and you must consider that you will have little choice of first flying job - you have to take what is available at the time.
Do you really understand the industry well enough to join it yet?
I feel comfortable that i know quite alot but obviously i have nothing to go off.
whether a turboprop requires type rating instead of just a multi engine licence.
Can people give me a test on here to see how much i know
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A330etc... - May I suggest a different career? You obviously have access to the internet and have done very little research off your own back. To fly an an aircraft, either privately or commercially, you have to be capable of a certain amount of self study and certainly be capable of "hitting the ground running". Maybe when you have taken your GCSE's...
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Yes maybe you should ! Certainly you should listen to what other people are advising you. In another thread you stated : "Is my gcse grade e in maths bad as i did do well in maths after gcse but no qualification saying i am better?", and based on your use of English, you would be well advised to concentrate on your present studies ? I would also suggest that if you are going to rant on about yourself you use Capital "I" rather than lower case "i".
There is a lot of assistance and advice available for you on this and other forums, but it tends to become diluted if you simply overuse the facility and allow yourself to appear foolish.
There is a lot of assistance and advice available for you on this and other forums, but it tends to become diluted if you simply overuse the facility and allow yourself to appear foolish.
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ok i'll forget my career that i have been wanting to do since i was 8 years old, i really thought pilot's are helpfull people. I have had people thinking i am poor from primary school because they thought i had special needs when all it was, was the fact that i had low self esteem due to the fact that i have no friends.
This special needs in maths and english put me down even more and the only subject which they dont do special needs for "Science" I got up to top set. Funny that. People just assume i am stupid when really i am just fed up with having no one to love and pretty much the only thing i have in life is my love for flying. And my thread was because i am tired of trying to figure out 1 little thinkg. Everything else i had researched on my own.
Bye Then
This special needs in maths and english put me down even more and the only subject which they dont do special needs for "Science" I got up to top set. Funny that. People just assume i am stupid when really i am just fed up with having no one to love and pretty much the only thing i have in life is my love for flying. And my thread was because i am tired of trying to figure out 1 little thinkg. Everything else i had researched on my own.
Bye Then
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I am very sorry you have had those problems and I hope you overcome them and have a successful future. However this is a professional pilots site and albeit a "wannbees" forum, the answers you are likely to receive to any question posed will largely come from a peer group within this forum and from professional pilots generally.
Make no mistake this is a cut throat industry and competition for the vacancies that do arise is extremely fierce. You only have to read the threads that are live on page one of this forum to quickly become aware of that fact. As a result it is an industry that takes few prisoners and presentation is everything.
I doubt there is anybody that wishes you ill or would not be ready to answer your sensible questions, however a better mix of research and advice absorbtion would likely result in more sensible and relevant questions and contribution, and that was my point.
finally I would make the additional point that professional aviation has a very high attrition rate, and one of the absolute prerequisites for any chance of success, is the need for determination and flexibility. Many people do quit for one reason or another, and some of those reasons are very valid and some beyond an individuals control. However if you quit at any point the truth of the matter is no one will care other than you.
Make no mistake this is a cut throat industry and competition for the vacancies that do arise is extremely fierce. You only have to read the threads that are live on page one of this forum to quickly become aware of that fact. As a result it is an industry that takes few prisoners and presentation is everything.
I doubt there is anybody that wishes you ill or would not be ready to answer your sensible questions, however a better mix of research and advice absorbtion would likely result in more sensible and relevant questions and contribution, and that was my point.
finally I would make the additional point that professional aviation has a very high attrition rate, and one of the absolute prerequisites for any chance of success, is the need for determination and flexibility. Many people do quit for one reason or another, and some of those reasons are very valid and some beyond an individuals control. However if you quit at any point the truth of the matter is no one will care other than you.
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I think there is alot of snobbery around but that's not a surprise due to the fact that we are speaking on an english forum. For Decades people from other countries have seen the uk as people who are looking down on the less educated or even just people who look like they are. Which is basically where pride and prejudice came from though that was a story, it is still depicting England.
I feel ashamed to be english in some ways but in others i am so happy but i think the good feelings come from chatting with people who actually don't pre judge others and can see other's points of view and ironically enough those people are the people who work for £5.40 an hour and graft to the point that they hurt.
I know there are good pilots out there but i am starting to lose faith in this forum. Is there an american forum because i feel the americans are less judgmental and can actually see other people's points of view no matter what educational qualifications they had from high school.
I feel ashamed to be english in some ways but in others i am so happy but i think the good feelings come from chatting with people who actually don't pre judge others and can see other's points of view and ironically enough those people are the people who work for £5.40 an hour and graft to the point that they hurt.
I know there are good pilots out there but i am starting to lose faith in this forum. Is there an american forum because i feel the americans are less judgmental and can actually see other people's points of view no matter what educational qualifications they had from high school.
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Yes maybe you should ! Certainly you should listen to what other people are advising you. In another thread you stated : "Is my gcse grade e in maths bad as i did do well in maths after gcse but no qualification saying i am better?", and based on your use of English, you would be well advised to concentrate on your present studies ? I would also suggest that if you are going to rant on about yourself you use Capital "I" rather than lower case "i".
There is a lot of assistance and advice available for you on this and other forums, but it tends to become diluted if you simply overuse the facility and allow yourself to appear foolish.
There is a lot of assistance and advice available for you on this and other forums, but it tends to become diluted if you simply overuse the facility and allow yourself to appear foolish.
I am not stimulated at this moment in time because i have no outside life yet and wish this to change soon hopefully when i start flying though i am getting a bit worried by what type of people are out there. Hopefully as nice as the people i have met in my temping jobs.
My IQ on the BBC phsycometric tests was 103-Is that o.k?
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Er Phil, I think you are confusing listening and understanding another's viewpoint with honest comments and opinion which may hurt and offend. American pilots will dish these out as well as anybody else, especially if you ask dumb questions! And how do you know a person's academic qualifications from their post?
And finally, what do you and A330-etc (who appear to be very similar people judging by the tone, readability and contant use of lower case "I"s mid sentence) want from this forum - honest advice or pointless, nicey-nicey platitudes giving false hope and no guidance!
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And finally, what do you and A330-etc (who appear to be very similar people judging by the tone, readability and contant use of lower case "I"s mid sentence) want from this forum - honest advice or pointless, nicey-nicey platitudes giving false hope and no guidance!
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Phil / A300, 
It is not a matter of "snoberry". As for an American forum, I am sure there is, and no doubt some more quick research with your keyboard will reveal numerous such forums.
However you perceive the egalitarianism on the other side of the Atlantic, I can tell you that the requirements for airline employment in the USA are even stricter than they are here. A university degree is almost always a requirement. Whatever other generalisations you want to make, this is a professional pilots forum and it is on the subject of professional aviation that these answers have been given. If you don't like them that is fine.
As for losing faith in this forum, that is up to you. The only faith that matters is that you have in yourself. It matters not one jot how sorry you feel for yourself or how hard done by you feel. If this is really the career you want to embark on, then you need to give yourself the best fighting chance. That involves serious hard work and determination. As I said before it is all about presentation and like it or not you are judged and pre-judged on your presentation be it here, the USA or almost anywhere else. If you have a perception of low self esteem, then do something positive to reverse it. I am afraid that not everybody out there is going to be nice to you, and you need the maturity to be able to handle that in any event, but most certainly if you want to embark on a professional career as a pilot.
It is not a matter of "snoberry". As for an American forum, I am sure there is, and no doubt some more quick research with your keyboard will reveal numerous such forums.
However you perceive the egalitarianism on the other side of the Atlantic, I can tell you that the requirements for airline employment in the USA are even stricter than they are here. A university degree is almost always a requirement. Whatever other generalisations you want to make, this is a professional pilots forum and it is on the subject of professional aviation that these answers have been given. If you don't like them that is fine.
As for losing faith in this forum, that is up to you. The only faith that matters is that you have in yourself. It matters not one jot how sorry you feel for yourself or how hard done by you feel. If this is really the career you want to embark on, then you need to give yourself the best fighting chance. That involves serious hard work and determination. As I said before it is all about presentation and like it or not you are judged and pre-judged on your presentation be it here, the USA or almost anywhere else. If you have a perception of low self esteem, then do something positive to reverse it. I am afraid that not everybody out there is going to be nice to you, and you need the maturity to be able to handle that in any event, but most certainly if you want to embark on a professional career as a pilot.
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Gosh i'm not the other guy i am me and i live in south manchester. When i come on here i dont really make an effort to talk much because i am tired and just bored and want to be out doing things with people.
I think most people here are alright i just dont give off the right impression but that's because i am feeling less than enthusiastic about things in my life.
If i was out at the airport i would be using the right words buti let my hair down when i am at home probably because i dont socialise much.
I think most people here are alright i just dont give off the right impression but that's because i am feeling less than enthusiastic about things in my life.
If i was out at the airport i would be using the right words buti let my hair down when i am at home probably because i dont socialise much.
I have found pilots, as a breed, exceptionally helpful and I have been mentored and coached all the way through from PPL to Airbus type-rating. Pilots will always help provided you bring with you the right attitude and some aptitude. You claim to be fairly conversant with aviation but that really doesn't come across terribly well in your posts. You also claim to have scored adequately in the BBC's psychometric tests and then spell "phsycometric" incorrectly! And I do realise that IQ isn't neccessarily a function of one's ability to spell!
Perhaps you might wish to put your dream on hold for a little while longer while you build maturity, resilience and some knowledge of the business.
If you're serious I would strongly suggest you buy Clive Hughes book "Guide to Getting a Commercial Pilot Licence." I've even included a link for you:
http://www.ppl-atpl.demon.co.uk/reviews.htm
This book will answer all your questions and perhaps prepare you better for future forays on pprune. Good luck!
Perhaps you might wish to put your dream on hold for a little while longer while you build maturity, resilience and some knowledge of the business.
If you're serious I would strongly suggest you buy Clive Hughes book "Guide to Getting a Commercial Pilot Licence." I've even included a link for you:
http://www.ppl-atpl.demon.co.uk/reviews.htm
This book will answer all your questions and perhaps prepare you better for future forays on pprune. Good luck!
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Thankyou and i always have probs spelling physco right did i do it properly there
Well i am ok with spellign when i think about it but not when i'm typing on the internet. It gives me a headache when trying to read on here.
That's why i type quick (44 words per minute on my last test)
So do you think 103 on iq is ok, i hope so. I'll try test the nation test when it comes online
Well i am ok with spellign when i think about it but not when i'm typing on the internet. It gives me a headache when trying to read on here.
That's why i type quick (44 words per minute on my last test)
So do you think 103 on iq is ok, i hope so. I'll try test the nation test when it comes online
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What is it you want us to feel an IQ test score of 103 is ok for exactly ?
I am convinced you are seriously missing the point, and getting the uncomfortable feeling this is all a bit of a wind up Phil ?
I am convinced you are seriously missing the point, and getting the uncomfortable feeling this is all a bit of a wind up Phil ?
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Wow, take it easy on the kid, he's just asking questions we all had to ask at one point or another.
Isn't that the job of a responsible pilot? To ask questions and learn? I would rather him come here and ask the questions he needs to ask, than keep silent and go out into the world not knowing where to start.
A330 glad to hear you have a passion for it! How far along are you in your training?
Isn't that the job of a responsible pilot? To ask questions and learn? I would rather him come here and ask the questions he needs to ask, than keep silent and go out into the world not knowing where to start.
A330 glad to hear you have a passion for it! How far along are you in your training?
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Thankyou sir I just only asked about whether turbo prop requires a type rating, ok i didnt do research on that, but i do, do research on alot of things and i am tired of searching and just need the answer quickly which is why i came here.
How's florida? I love going there, every year i went with my parents they were doing roadworks on the 192 and he says they have been doing it since 1988
But i think i remember them finishing it 2 years ago.
I just only asked about whether turbo prop requires a type rating, ok i didnt do research on that, but i do, do research on alot of things and i am tired of searching and just need the answer quickly which is why i came here.How's florida? I love going there, every year i went with my parents they were doing roadworks on the 192 and he says they have been doing it since 1988
But i think i remember them finishing it 2 years ago.