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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 00:17
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Canadian Commercial Licence to UK

Hi

I am a British Citizen who is contemplating on getting my commercial licence in Vancouver, Canada.

My reasons for choosing Vancouver for training is that it is more affordable than the UK and that its a beautiful city to live. However, that being said, I am hesistant in training in a country that I may or maynot get employment because of citizenship.

WHat is the process of conversion to a UK commercial licence... ie is it difficult? expensive??

If anyone out there has gone through the process or are in a similar situation or have information about this, I would love to hear your ideas and thoughts.

Thank you very much!
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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 00:44
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To convert to JAA ATPL from ICAO (i.e. Canadian) CPL/IR:
Attend approved ATPL Ground school (Full time or Distance Learning).
Pass ALL 14 ATPL exams.
Undertake training as required by Head of Training for CPL.
Pass CPL Flight Test.
Undertake a minimum of 15 Hours of I/R Training.
Pass the I/R Flight Test.

Consider my employer: http://www.waaviationcollege.com.au/
Can do a JAA Intergrated or Modular course. Think you'll agree it's very cost effective and Perth in Western Australia is also a Beautiful City.
See http://www.westernaustralia.com/en/
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Consider the Moncton Flight College in Moncton Canada. They offer a JAA program, no need to convert your licence. Check there website for further information.

www.mfc.nb.ca

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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 03:55
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No Ground school, Exams or Flight Tests at Moncton though!
So either Multiple trips or UK Training at some stage.
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Originally Posted by whiskey1
To convert to JAA ATPL from ICAO (i.e. Canadian) CPL/IR:
Attend approved ATPL Ground school (Full time or Distance Learning).
Pass ALL 14 ATPL exams.
Undertake training as required by Head of Training for CPL.
Pass CPL Flight Test.
Undertake a minimum of 15 Hours of I/R Training.
Pass the I/R Flight Test.
Consider my employer: http://www.waaviationcollege.com.au/
Can do a JAA Intergrated or Modular course. Think you'll agree it's very cost effective and Perth in Western Australia is also a Beautiful City.
See http://www.westernaustralia.com/en/
Shetland23 made no mention of obtaining a Canadian IR. Without one, he will have to do the full 50 hr IR course for the JAR IR(H).
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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 16:24
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Reply to Whiskey 1

I believe you info regarding MFC is incorrect as I am enroled on their JAA program and can assure you that all flight tests can be taken on site. The quality of their training is I believe better than America and their weather is closer to the conditions you would find in the UK. Granted they are not perferct is any college! Given the cost saving and standard I think that I have made the right choice.
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Atpl Theory Exams

THE BEST PREP FOR THE JAA ATPLS IS THE BRISTOL ONLINE GROUND SCHOOL!!

www.atponline.gs

these questions are just like the real exams, you do online tests and on some of the subjects there is a huge ammount of questions that are word for word like the ones in the exams themselfs

combine this with a good study and you well on your way to a good pass mark in the exams
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WM1970:
The Moncton website said that all testing was done by Cabair in Bournemouth.
Are you sitting the Ground Exams in Canada also or are they in UK?

Yes the Bristol Stuff is good but many schools have extensive feed back. Some choose to make their questions only available to enrolled students.
Know my students have done very well with what they have available.
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thank you

thank you so much.

Hi WM1970
Are you British? Do you intend to work in the UK after your training?
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Converting to JAR & oppurtunities thereafter

G'Day..

I'm currently at 300hrs TT, just got my Multi IFR on an NZ CPL. I hold a Dutch passport, and have decided to move to Europe to convert and do ATPL's.. My questions to anyone who might be in a position to answer are as follows:

What places other than Bristol.gs and oxford and the likes can anyone reccomend as a good place to do my ATPL theory?

Where is a reccomended place to do the flying component?

and

With approximately 1000 Hrs TT, 100 multi, 600 Hrs Turbine and a frozen JAR ATPL, what kind of oppurtunities would be availiable to me in the Europe, Africa, Middle East regions??
I estimate that I am able to be in this postion within 18months

cheers
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How many places do you need to do the exams???? Bristol and Oxford are rated at the best for a reason,, people pass there,,, why look elsewhere,, I did mine at the London Met who are ace,, but most of my study was done with the online bristol and in my apartment with the books. passed them all first time with marks in the 80's and 90's
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FAA to JAA Conversion

Hi Folks

I am looking to convert an FAA CPL/IR (Multi) to JAA CPL/IR in UK. (Just the flight portion as i have groundschool & medical).

Does anybody happen to know of ANY flight Schools in England where this can be done; ideally at reasonable cost?

Thks
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Firstly do you know what is entailed?

If not, read LASORS now.

As for where, prices are muchness of a muchness, this is the UK after all and going to be a small fortune. What area of the UK is best suited for you? N and or W London?

If so, perhaps Wycombe http://www.wycombeaircentre.co.uk/ or Stapleford http://www.flysfc.com/ ?
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Hey thks "Blue Robin". I will try both these schools as i am from Sth East part of UK. Yes, i am aware of what is involved for the conversion. The IR TEST must be accomplished in a JAA member state otherwise i would do the whole lot here in the US.
I need to weigh up whether it would cheaper to trvl somewhere else in EUROPE and do the conversion (paying for Accom); or pay more in Blighty but stay at home for free. Im quite sure that there are FTP's offering this conversion in Europe much cheaper than England. I just have to find them.

Cheers
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Make sure you read the above advice about ATPL/CPL theory and CPL practical. esp pertaining to state of issue.
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CPL Conversion on the multi

Hello,

Question for the specialists you are.

I've been offered a CPL conversion on the multi (FAA ---> JAA) but what about the single do we have just to take a paper test after like for the multi when you do the CPL on the single or another course ?

Thanks for the help.
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If you have FAA CPL with ME and SE, you can convert to JAR CPL on SE, then as you say, if you have -100 hrs on ME you need to do theory test before skill test, if you have +100 hs on ME you just do skill test. Either way, to convert ME from FAA is descetional training.

HB
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Just have the CPL/ME not the SE : (((
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I dont think that matters. To do JAR CPL on SE you will just require discretional training as I've already said, and because you dont have the SE it may take more then it otherwise would. Have you never flown a SE?

Speak to a different FTO, one that doesnt just wana take your money.

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Seeking advice...

Good evening all,

I have been away from flying for about 3 years, but am very much weighing the pros and cons of returning to it, as a career. I relocated from Canada to the UK for employment purposes about a year ago (I am a professional engineer), and one thing that has struck me is the state of the flying industry compared to how it was in Canada. A bit about myself:

Transport Canada CPL
Group 1 (Multi) IFR (not current)
Approximately 750TT, 100 multi

So is it worth me even considering the whole licence conversion route here in the UK? What are the steps to conversion here in the UK, if I wanted IFR and a JAR CPL(A)? Any recommendations on training organisations in the South Wales / South West region that handle ICAO licence conversions like mine?

And finally, is the industry friendly to relatively low hour pilots? In Canada, it is notoriously difficult to get that first job, and that played a big role when it came time to decide between sticking with my flying or working as a professional engineer after uni.

Thanks in advance for any replies!
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