Licence Conversion to JAA
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You still have to do the JAA exams. There's a way round it though, only if you have so many 1000's of hours heavy jet time i think. Im sure somebody will correct me though and give you the exact party line
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hello guys, i have FAA CPL/ME/IR and about 500TT. i was wondering if there is any airline in Europe that still hires FAA pilots. Also i need to know if i decide to convert to JAA, do i still have to pass all 14 exams? Does JAA give any credit to FAA licenses or credit for college degrees. i have MBA in aviation management. thank you very much. Any responds are welcome.
thanks
thanks
I also have a degree Aeronautical Science from NYC, doesnt do anything though.
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FAA-JAA ATPL conversion
Hey everyone,
I have a few questions about this complete nightmare of a conversion!
(1) Does anyone know if there are out there any courses that tailor their course to the individual? I am currently enrolled distance learning with NAC in Florida but getting s*d all done and I'm frustrated. What I need is someone who can tell me what I need to know (ie with my specific experience - 7,000TT but all in the US, and no, not enough heavy jet hours to get the exemption) and tailor my studying to that, not just start ploughing through all of the rubbish!
(2) On the same lines, does anyone know of any private tutors who would be able to give me 1-on-1 tuition in my weak areas? I'm currently in Chicago but at some stage will be over in London (I hope).
(3) Rightly or wrongly I have heard good things about the BGS online database. If I just learned and learned and learned all the Qs & As on that (plus in any other crib anyone has found useful), would that get me through? I'm quite happy to learn off by heart (worked for the FAA exams!) but it's the rest of it that's killing me.
(4) Realistically, if I can set aside say 10 hrs a week to study, how long is it going to take? Surely I'm not going to have to learn everything from scratch??
Cheers and good luck to anyone who's trudging through it all at the moment.
I have a few questions about this complete nightmare of a conversion!
(1) Does anyone know if there are out there any courses that tailor their course to the individual? I am currently enrolled distance learning with NAC in Florida but getting s*d all done and I'm frustrated. What I need is someone who can tell me what I need to know (ie with my specific experience - 7,000TT but all in the US, and no, not enough heavy jet hours to get the exemption) and tailor my studying to that, not just start ploughing through all of the rubbish!
(2) On the same lines, does anyone know of any private tutors who would be able to give me 1-on-1 tuition in my weak areas? I'm currently in Chicago but at some stage will be over in London (I hope).
(3) Rightly or wrongly I have heard good things about the BGS online database. If I just learned and learned and learned all the Qs & As on that (plus in any other crib anyone has found useful), would that get me through? I'm quite happy to learn off by heart (worked for the FAA exams!) but it's the rest of it that's killing me.
(4) Realistically, if I can set aside say 10 hrs a week to study, how long is it going to take? Surely I'm not going to have to learn everything from scratch??
Cheers and good luck to anyone who's trudging through it all at the moment.
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FAA-JAA ATPL conversion
Did this have to be moved? I was asking specific questions (not just the normal 'do I really have to do all 14 exams?' 'Yes you do' stuff!) and I'm concerned that no-one will bother trawling through 8 pages of that sort of question to get to my queries.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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ATPL Conversion
Hello all,
I currently hold ICAO ATPL, and Japanese ATPL,now I am thinking about moving to Europe.I would like to know is there any procedure for conversion ICAO or Japanese Licence to JAR ?
Thanks .
I currently hold ICAO ATPL, and Japanese ATPL,now I am thinking about moving to Europe.I would like to know is there any procedure for conversion ICAO or Japanese Licence to JAR ?
Thanks .
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Two points : Japan is an ICAO contracting state, and secondly ICAO do not issue licences.
"ICAO does not issue any licences. Licences issued by ICAO Contracting States on the basis of Standards and Recommended Practices of Annex 1 – Personnel Licensing, are habitually called ICAO licences. This has led many to believe that there is a specific ICAO or international licence. The fact is that there is not one single international licence issued by ICAO or any other organization. States issue their own licences based on national regulations in conformity with Annex 1 specifications and validate licences issued by other Contracting States on the basis of bilateral or multilateral agreements or the fulfilment of nationally legislated requirements.
For more information, please refer to Annex 1, Chapter 1, paragraph 1.2.
You would need to obtain written conversion terms from one of the JAR member states in order to convert your current licence.
"ICAO does not issue any licences. Licences issued by ICAO Contracting States on the basis of Standards and Recommended Practices of Annex 1 – Personnel Licensing, are habitually called ICAO licences. This has led many to believe that there is a specific ICAO or international licence. The fact is that there is not one single international licence issued by ICAO or any other organization. States issue their own licences based on national regulations in conformity with Annex 1 specifications and validate licences issued by other Contracting States on the basis of bilateral or multilateral agreements or the fulfilment of nationally legislated requirements.
For more information, please refer to Annex 1, Chapter 1, paragraph 1.2.
You would need to obtain written conversion terms from one of the JAR member states in order to convert your current licence.
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Best way to convert CDN ATPL TO JAA ATPL
What is the best way to convert a Canandian ATPL to a JAA ATPL? I also have a valid EU passport plus a Jet type rating with 1000hrs plus on type. The passport is Hungarian. Thank you in advance for any advice.
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Conversion of Australian CPL(A) to JAA CPL (A)
Hi Everyone,
I have recently followed my Girlfriend to the UK and I was hoping someone could fill me in on what is required to convert an Australian CPL(A) to the JAA equivalent to fly in the EU.
My plan is to convert my Australian CPL(A) and go and do my JAA ATPL theory with Bristol. Then join all the other battlers trying to get a job!
Any Advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Conners
I have recently followed my Girlfriend to the UK and I was hoping someone could fill me in on what is required to convert an Australian CPL(A) to the JAA equivalent to fly in the EU.
My plan is to convert my Australian CPL(A) and go and do my JAA ATPL theory with Bristol. Then join all the other battlers trying to get a job!
Any Advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Conners
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With very few exceptions:
- 14 JAA ground exams from an approved JAA groundschool (i.e. Bristol)
- CPL flight test, whatever training the CFI deems necessary
- IR flight test, min 15hrs to convert your ICAO IR (10 approved sim, 5 a/c)
- JAA Class one med, only to be done at London Gatwick
I also believe that you will have to sit an MEP flight test to validate your MEP rating (personally, dependent on your hours on MEP (me Canadian CPL 800hrs MEP) I find that a bit of a cash cow, but ho-hum, welcome to the world of JAA.
Oh yeah, a big thick wad of cash is required too...
- 14 JAA ground exams from an approved JAA groundschool (i.e. Bristol)
- CPL flight test, whatever training the CFI deems necessary
- IR flight test, min 15hrs to convert your ICAO IR (10 approved sim, 5 a/c)
- JAA Class one med, only to be done at London Gatwick
I also believe that you will have to sit an MEP flight test to validate your MEP rating (personally, dependent on your hours on MEP (me Canadian CPL 800hrs MEP) I find that a bit of a cash cow, but ho-hum, welcome to the world of JAA.
Oh yeah, a big thick wad of cash is required too...
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PM me with your exact hours, experience and types. I assume your TR on the jet is conforming to Transport Canada standards and done in Canada? In which case it is not transferrable (as far as I know) to the JAA.
I'll get back to you.
I'll get back to you.
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ICAO-JAA ATPL convertion
Is there anybody from Eastern- European countries who already made the license conversion from ICAO/ATPL to JAA/ATPL???
Which FTO is able to organise thinks with its own CAA (after you passed all 14 tests, and payed lots of money), that you will have the chance to get the full license, not only the theoretical exams certificate???
Looks like all the FTO's wants just get money for the theoretical package then let people fight with CAA to get the rest!!!
Any help deeply appreciated!!!
Which FTO is able to organise thinks with its own CAA (after you passed all 14 tests, and payed lots of money), that you will have the chance to get the full license, not only the theoretical exams certificate???
Looks like all the FTO's wants just get money for the theoretical package then let people fight with CAA to get the rest!!!
Any help deeply appreciated!!!
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more questions abour converting FAA to JAA !!
Hi everybody,
I am a european citizen working in a fractional company as a Captain.
I would like to possibly return to europe some day and fly.
I understand i would need JAA licences.
currently i do not meet any of the easier routes for the JAA atpl, (the aircraft i fly are not heavy enough altho i do have over 1500 hrs,)
Any school recommendations for the US or good distance learning courses ?
Would it make any sense to convert to a JAA cpl first with perhaps the frozenAtpl exams done. Would it in theory be possible to geta job with JAA cpl and fAtpl?
It is a definately confusing the hell out of me!
thanks
Steve
I am a european citizen working in a fractional company as a Captain.
I would like to possibly return to europe some day and fly.
I understand i would need JAA licences.
currently i do not meet any of the easier routes for the JAA atpl, (the aircraft i fly are not heavy enough altho i do have over 1500 hrs,)
Any school recommendations for the US or good distance learning courses ?
Would it make any sense to convert to a JAA cpl first with perhaps the frozenAtpl exams done. Would it in theory be possible to geta job with JAA cpl and fAtpl?
It is a definately confusing the hell out of me!
thanks
Steve
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conversion into a british licence
Hi there guys!!
How are you doing guys, I have a question for you, I want to convert my Spanish JAR licence into a british one, because to be honest i'm very upset with my spanish caa, they are all a bunch of lazy guys.
Can anybody give some hints or tell me whats the procedure to follow, papers to show up or certificates and what could be the aproximate prize for that.
I've been looking in the british CAA web page but I was unable to find the exact part regarding this.
If this topic was treat before can anybody foreward me the link, I haven't seen anything so far.
Hey thank all answers are welcome, you guys can send me a pm if wanted.
Hey nice landigs.
Atila.
How are you doing guys, I have a question for you, I want to convert my Spanish JAR licence into a british one, because to be honest i'm very upset with my spanish caa, they are all a bunch of lazy guys.
Can anybody give some hints or tell me whats the procedure to follow, papers to show up or certificates and what could be the aproximate prize for that.
I've been looking in the british CAA web page but I was unable to find the exact part regarding this.
If this topic was treat before can anybody foreward me the link, I haven't seen anything so far.
Hey thank all answers are welcome, you guys can send me a pm if wanted.
Hey nice landigs.
Atila.
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You need to pass the JAR State of Licence Issue requirements.
Downloads LASORS section A
http://www.caa.co.uk/lasors
Look at A8.
Downloads LASORS section A
http://www.caa.co.uk/lasors
Look at A8.
An applicant may only apply to change the state of
licence issue of a JAR-FCL licence provided that
employment or normal residency is established in that
state. Normal residency means the place where a
person usually lives for at least 185 days in each
calendar year because of personal and occupational
ties or, in the case of a person with no occupational ties,
because of personal ties which can show close links
between that person and the place where she or he is
living.(JAR-FCL 1.070/2.070 refers).
licence issue of a JAR-FCL licence provided that
employment or normal residency is established in that
state. Normal residency means the place where a
person usually lives for at least 185 days in each
calendar year because of personal and occupational
ties or, in the case of a person with no occupational ties,
because of personal ties which can show close links
between that person and the place where she or he is
living.(JAR-FCL 1.070/2.070 refers).
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Buenos Dias Amigo.
You can try the CAA PDF downloadable LASORS - section G for your enquiry.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/LASORS_07.pdf
Good luck and hope it helps.
Adios.
You can try the CAA PDF downloadable LASORS - section G for your enquiry.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/LASORS_07.pdf
Good luck and hope it helps.
Adios.
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FAA IR/ME conversation to JAA IR/ME
Hello,
i from gemany and intend to do my JAA CPL and FAA IR/ME in the USA. Afterthem i would like to convert the IR in Spain or UK to a Jaa IR. Do anyone know, if there is then a notice in the current License that the IR comes from a converation?
Thanks
i from gemany and intend to do my JAA CPL and FAA IR/ME in the USA. Afterthem i would like to convert the IR in Spain or UK to a Jaa IR. Do anyone know, if there is then a notice in the current License that the IR comes from a converation?
Thanks
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Bristol...?
Don't know if you've been at Bristol's websites yet? I'm currently making good use of their online ATPL question bank, as I am converting an FAA helicopter CPL to JAR... The questions are there... That's all there is to it. That and the small price you have to pay to get access to them. Totally worth it...
Good luck!
Good luck!
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FAA to JAA conversion
Hello,
I'm in the process of converting my FAA ATP in a JAA one with the Netherlands authorities. I'm already passed the theoretical exams (thanks to bristol and orbit ground school !!!), and know I'm looking for a flight school for the practical part ( CPL skill test, IR and ME rating). Here my question: Is it necessary to conduct the flight training in the state of license issue (NL) or may I choose any JAA member states? Has anyone experience with stuff like that? I'm already send that question to the NL-authorities but haven't got an reply until know.
Thanks for any advises...
I'm in the process of converting my FAA ATP in a JAA one with the Netherlands authorities. I'm already passed the theoretical exams (thanks to bristol and orbit ground school !!!), and know I'm looking for a flight school for the practical part ( CPL skill test, IR and ME rating). Here my question: Is it necessary to conduct the flight training in the state of license issue (NL) or may I choose any JAA member states? Has anyone experience with stuff like that? I'm already send that question to the NL-authorities but haven't got an reply until know.
Thanks for any advises...