Licence Conversion to JAA

[madlot]

conversion of FAA CPL/IR to JAA CPL or ATPL

I think that's a great idea for a thread....Costs and pathways to converting FAA CPL / IR to JAA CPL/IR or ATPL.

I bet there's a bunch of people out there, like me, that would like to hear from anyone who has actually done,or attempted the conversion.

Because looking at previous questions there seem to be lots that are maybe considering it.

• What did it actually cost you

ie including running into any extra hours above the minimum specified in LASORS for either the CPL or IR or multi components of it all due to proficiency/ currency or other issues.

• Where did you do it ? Etc etc

Please do share your experience as they say.

[farisjet]

Faa To Jar

YOU will pay the Europian price but you will do most the flying in the US...How Ironic

[CaptainKC]

Have you done it?

Please expand on this statement! I would like this thread to be productive and informative. The information I have gathered is as follows for anyone who may wish to commenet constructively, or share experience

EFT Florida are offering FAA IR 40hrs C172 and JAA CPL 10hrs C172 5hrs PA28R 9,999 Dollars add a Multi Rating 6hrs Duchess for 2,200 Dollars
Round up to 15k Dollars
Time to complete approx 6-8 weeks
Convert the FAA IR in Aerodynamics to JAA Multi IR for 6k Euros round figure
Time to complete 2-3 weeks
Total 16,000 Euros

This seems to be a very competitive option to end up with a JAA CPL Multi IR

I look forward to some feedback, pros and cons, anyone actually done it this way??????????????

Cheers
Cpt KC

[AlphaMale]

Cpt KC,

Your plan looks very much like the course OFT offer?

Phase 1
FAA Private Pilots

JAA ATPL Ground School - 24 Weeks

Phase 2
FAA Instrument Rating

Phase 3
Structured Hours Building

Phase 4
JAA Multi Commercial

Ground Instructor Time (50 Hrs)

So I wouldn't say you're doing anything new? But I can see the benefit and have thought of this route myself.

I did think of doing:

PPL with EFT/OFT

fly home

ATPL exams with BGS while in full time work and earning

fly back out there

FAA IR with OFT
JAA Multi-CPL with OFT

fly home

Convert my FAA IR to a JAA Multi-IR with Cabair (or in Spain - Aerodynamics).

Apply for the sponsored Instructor route at Cabair and work there for a year or two.

I could still do the above but I'm trying to look at as many different routes as possible. (looks like Cabair has pulled the plug on the sponsored FI but there are alternatives I'm sure).

[ballyboley]

PPL conversion query

Slightly off topic, but thought I'd give it a go -

I'm training with Oxford doing my Integrated ATPL i.e. CPL/IR/MCC etc
As part of their requirement to train in the US, I've done a FAA PPL while out here, but my CPL will only have a Multi Engine class rating when I return to the UK, which obviously does not cover single light aircraft.
My question is, to fly flight aircraft should I -

a) Convert the FAA ppl to a JAA ppl - I have already done all the ATPL ground so I'm assuming these exams satisfy the need to take any PPL ground exams? Is there anything else I'd need to do for this route?
b) Get a single engine class rating put on my CPL ratings by a CAA examiner - what is involved here? Is it simply a bit of paper I get one of them to sign while doing another checkride in a single engine a/c or is there more to it?
I will also be doing the IR in multi - will that cover me to fly singles IR or is it a seperate single engined IR required as well?


Many thanks for any assistance in advance
Dave

[ChicagoHeights]

Hi this is what I'm doing......I working on the 14 atpl exams, which is a crazy amount of info (I hear the dutch are to blame for this), once this is completed I need to find a crj-200 sim somewhere in Europe and hopefully that will be my unfrozen atpl, I don't fly the 700 series all that much to have 3000 plus time in a aircraft over 30,000 kg's so that's my path

[-IBLB-]

Bally,

Unless you need it for a specific reason, I wouldn't worry about the single engine stuff. You certainly don't need it to get a job at flying big stuff here.

If you want to have a SEP, just take the checkride, no need for anything else I think.

[Skysurfer1]

Canadian CPL conversion to JAR and JAR ATPL

Hello,
Wondering if anyone who can recommend a good school in England, in which I can do a CPL conversion. Also I need to get my IR and find it mind blowing the cost to get it done!

Anyone done the Bristol.gs distant learning program for JAR ATPL and if so, can you tell me what you think of the program. Pros/cons.

Thanks!
Skysurfer

[Mikehotel152]

A mate converted his Canadian Licence at Cabair.

I'm doing Bristol GS. If you can work full-time and discipline yourself to study as though you were attending groundschool, go for it because the materials, support and system is very highly thought of.

[ballyboley]

Squawkvfr, im past PT1 now (FAA course so couldn't use the CAA guys), but hoping to do the single engine rating as part of PT2 perhaps?
I know there's no need for a single rating but I still want to fly singles for pleasure back in the UK.
Does anyone know if the Seneca IR covers you for both single's and twins or do you need to do a seperate instrument rating for the single?

Many thanks

[Cobalt]

The IR covers both SE and ME instrument flying if you do the course & test in a ME aeroplane - assuming you have the appropriate class or type rating

[Avyator]

I got my FAA CPL IR ME and would like to convert this to JAA CPL IR ME. I'm planning to start with bristol groundschool distance learning. I'm wondering if someone can recommend a good school I can to the flying with?

[Lightheart]

Licence issue

Which country do you want your licence issue from?

Irrespective of opinions on here, ALWAYS visit with the proposed school before parting with any cash. Opinions are very subjective and what worked for one may not work for another.

[Avyator]

Well, I have to choose a UK school. since I'm doing my exams in the UK.

[Lightheart]

UK schools

Side note: Some other States also accept UK exams.


Check out:
Bristol flying Centre
BCFT
BFC

These are in the lower half of the country. Didn't visit any in the "upper" half.

All have good reps and don't show any real "attitude" towards FAA conversions. Some schools aren't so great, such as Stapleford (and I am speaking from experience).

Ask the schools about the differences in flying in the UK as opposed to flying in the US. You'll knpw from the quality of their answers how prepared they are to handle conversion students.

(For you own sake, make sure you know the differences in airspace, RT, manueovers such asdeadside let-downs etc before you begin your conversion).

Good luck.

[123567]

the short answer is - the same procedure as if you had no ATPL.

Look at this link.

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.asp...=detail&id=468

It is for the UK but that is JAA.

PS did you hop into the 737 with only 200 hours?