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From: Europe
The Cuatro Vientos metro stop is on the military side of the airfield and thats a fair walk. Busses on the other hand run very close to the entrance of the aeroclub, depends where you wonna stay in madrid, how your transport situation will be. From the center its about 40-50min, on the trains + bus and from the southern suburbs maybe 35min on the bus.
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From: 3 NM on final!
Originally Posted by Jimmy The Big Greek
I want to go to AEROFANFTO. How is the transportation to the school.
Is there any bus/subwaystation near the school?
Is there any bus/subwaystation near the school?
It takes about 30 minutes from the centre of Madrid. I'll tell you the route I do to get to LECU:
From Atocha Railway Station you take the train (Cercanias) to Mostoles/El Soto (Line C-5) and you get off in Aluche Station. There you take one of the following busses 483 or 487 and get off in the stop following the NISSAN factory (better is to request the driver to tell you when to get off: just say you go to Cuatro Vientos Airport). Then walk into the aeroclub and ask somebody to tell you where Aerofan is exactly, it isn't difficult to find.
If you prefer another beginning of the route just tell me!
For more info:
http://www.renfe.es/cercanias/
http://www.metromadrid.es/
Nice flights!
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From: warrington
Aerofan-Multi IR
Dear All,
Just conducted a search of previous posts on Aerofan Madrid. I did not find what I was looking for!
Could anyone from the UK, currently conducting Multi IR training at Aerofan Madrid kindly give me some advice on how things are going and if indeed it is prudent for me to conduct training there.
Thank you all in advance-sorry if this has been done to death.
Regards morfa
Just conducted a search of previous posts on Aerofan Madrid. I did not find what I was looking for!
Could anyone from the UK, currently conducting Multi IR training at Aerofan Madrid kindly give me some advice on how things are going and if indeed it is prudent for me to conduct training there.
Thank you all in advance-sorry if this has been done to death.
Regards morfa
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From: エリア88
You didnt try very hard...its on the next page
Heres the link http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=215585
Heres the link http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=215585
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From: UK
CPL Skills Test @ Aerodynamics / Aerofan
Hi all,
thanks, I've read some very encouraging comments about both Aerofan & Aerodynamics. I'm planning on visiting them both very soon, as anybody should do when contemplating spending big money on IRs and CPL courses.
I do have a query though which I haven't seen in previous threads:
The Aerodynamics website doesn't list a CPL course, so I gave them a ring to check if they do run a CPL course or not. Yes they do a CPL course, but the skills test would have to be done back in the UK?
Aerofan doesn't seem to share this problem, they even publish their prices as including the skills test, and as long as an FTO and the examiner is JAA approved it's valid in the UK right?
The only reason I can think of is because Aerodynamics may not have a local examiner?
However, if anybody knows different, and thinks I would have to do a CPL skill test back in the UK no matter where I did the CPL course, please let me know.
Many thanks,
Unstable_Aloft
(yes I happen to have had ATPL Met in front of me when I registered)
thanks, I've read some very encouraging comments about both Aerofan & Aerodynamics. I'm planning on visiting them both very soon, as anybody should do when contemplating spending big money on IRs and CPL courses.
I do have a query though which I haven't seen in previous threads:
The Aerodynamics website doesn't list a CPL course, so I gave them a ring to check if they do run a CPL course or not. Yes they do a CPL course, but the skills test would have to be done back in the UK?
Aerofan doesn't seem to share this problem, they even publish their prices as including the skills test, and as long as an FTO and the examiner is JAA approved it's valid in the UK right?
The only reason I can think of is because Aerodynamics may not have a local examiner?
However, if anybody knows different, and thinks I would have to do a CPL skill test back in the UK no matter where I did the CPL course, please let me know.
Many thanks,
Unstable_Aloft
(yes I happen to have had ATPL Met in front of me when I registered)
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From: United Kingdom
If Aerodynamics are telling you that they can run a CPL course but the test would have to be done in the UK, you should be very wary. The UK CAA will not allocate an examiner to conduct a Skill Test unless the training has been completed at a UK approved FTO. Furthermore, I assume that you are prepared to complete the theoretical knowledge examinations in Spain and to have the licence issued by the DGAC - will they accept a Skill Test conducted by an examiner from another State for licence issue?
The instrument rating is not a problem but all licence training must be completed in the State of Licence Issue - you cannot mix and match (except where there is a specific agreement in place, as between the UK CAA and the IAA)
The instrument rating is not a problem but all licence training must be completed in the State of Licence Issue - you cannot mix and match (except where there is a specific agreement in place, as between the UK CAA and the IAA)
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From: UK
Thanks guys,
I've passed the 14 ATPL exams here in the UK with BGS.
From what you have said, sounds like I can do ratings in other JAA states (MEP & IR), but the CPL must be done over here (because I did groundschool and ATPL exams here).
Thats a shame
, would have been nice to do the ME/IR in Spain and follow straight on with the CPL, but I suppose I'll just have to come back home for the CPL.
Cheers,
Unstable_aloft
I've passed the 14 ATPL exams here in the UK with BGS.
From what you have said, sounds like I can do ratings in other JAA states (MEP & IR), but the CPL must be done over here (because I did groundschool and ATPL exams here).
Thats a shame
, would have been nice to do the ME/IR in Spain and follow straight on with the CPL, but I suppose I'll just have to come back home for the CPL.Cheers,
Unstable_aloft
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From: Europe
Yes - its awfully simple - ratings are not licences....
There are 3 licnces - PPL - CPL-ATPL - (maybe there is even atronaut.. heheh ) and the rest are ratings!!!!!!!!
You have to do the licence test in the theory country, thats it! (since its JAA im sure some schools are exempt.... since there is nothing without an excemption n JAR)
Im sure James at aerofan would be very good at determining what can be done and not. I have talked to him a few times, and he has been excellent at repelling business, by saying that he is not sure and that I should talk to my CAA and get clearence before we start. Nothing shady there.
There are 3 licnces - PPL - CPL-ATPL - (maybe there is even atronaut.. heheh ) and the rest are ratings!!!!!!!!
You have to do the licence test in the theory country, thats it! (since its JAA im sure some schools are exempt.... since there is nothing without an excemption n JAR)
Im sure James at aerofan would be very good at determining what can be done and not. I have talked to him a few times, and he has been excellent at repelling business, by saying that he is not sure and that I should talk to my CAA and get clearence before we start. Nothing shady there.
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From: Europe
YEP that is basicaly what I wrote! PPL does not really have anything to do with ATPL theory (or be it CPL theory since they are both valid prerequisites for your cpl skill test) - the ppl only has to be recogniced by the CAA in that particular country so you can begin the ATPL theory tuition.
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From: manchester UK
Tell us more, where did you hear this and how recent????. Im not sure if you are correct. There are 2 or three brits on the Aerofan Multi /IR at any one time. On completion You simply send off your paperwork to Gatwick and it is stamped.
If there are any problems i would like to know.
If there are any problems i would like to know.
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From: Scotland
As a new user, I wouldn't want to contradict anyone, but I am surprised to read what has been posted in this forum. I got back from Madrid (Aerofan) just two weeks ago, took the Aerofan file along to Gatwick, together with my licence, logbook etc, and (after paying the usual ****ing CAA fee!!) got my IR and MEP inserted 2 days later. Aerofan was recommended from a friend who completed IR conversion training there in April this year. He didn't seem to have problem at either.
If you can forgive them for being Spanish, it's a school I'd highly recommend!!!
Enjoy the sun!!
If you can forgive them for being Spanish, it's a school I'd highly recommend!!!
Enjoy the sun!!