Training in Spain

[smith]

Claycomm

Do you already have CPL? Was there no other alternative aircraft you could use? Seems strange. So you have done MEP ME/IR, since 7th April, that is great. Think I might be tempted.

[smith]

How do you think the UK airlines will take to JAA ME/IR's issued in Spain?

[hughesyd]

Originally Posted by smith

How do you think the UK airlines will take to JAA ME/IR's issued in Spain?

Not a problem at all!!. I am in a position where i am currently training with Aerofan and Aeromadrid, so i feel qualified enough to comment on both. Both are good in their own right, but 2 very different schools.

As for ME/IR issued in spain. I have seen a few guys now come through Aerofan from the UK, all Modular, some have done training in more than 3 countries, never mind schools!!. I know a couple of guys who did their ME/IR here, applied to airlines with less than 300 hours and are now flying within Airlines in the UK, so it cant be that bad can it!!.

It all boils down to your ability as a pilot, your personality, Contacts, the interview and a little luck!.

Spain is a JAA state, so all your ratings, trainig ect are recognised in the UK.

[Lightheart]

femalewannabe

www.globalaviation.gr

Maybe this school in Greece may help you. Apparantly in Greece the CPL/IR can be done in one, two hour check ride.

[femaleWannabe]

Thanks Lightheart, this looks good

If doing the CPL abroad, does it need to be converted or anything in the UK? I seem to remember reading somewhere that having ratings issued abroad is fine, but licenses are different?

[ianpa]

I am a little confused as to how any one would know that your MEIR was issued in Spain. I returned from Aerofan about 2 weeks ago and duly sent all my paperwork to Gatwick. Today my fresh licence arrived back with MEIR added. There is no mention anywhere that the licence was issued in Spain.

[BillieBob]

I am a little confused as to how any one would know that your MEIR was issued in Spain.

Well, they wouldn't, because it wasn't. Your IR was issued in the UK on the basis of training and testing carried out in Spain. Since any prospective employer will ask to see your logbook, and you are required to record in that logbook the airfields of departure and arrival, It is, on balance, likely that most interviewers would be able to draw the obvious conclusion. If, however, you were ashamed of having gained your IR in Spain, you could always falsify your logbook.

[ianpa]

Very good Billiebob point taken. And by the way I am certainly not ashamed to have completed my IR in Spain. Out of interest where did you do yours?

[excrab]

I believe there is an issue with Spanish issued licences in that the Spanish equivalent of the CAA will not allow foreign (ie non Spanish) TREs to sign licence proficiency checks. At least one UK airline has therefore been requiring newly hired pilots with Spanish issued JAA licences to convert them to UK licences. Not a big problem but obviously involves some cost which in these days of low cost would be met by the licence holder. Still probably not that expensive compared to the savings to be made.

[pipertommy]

By Spanish issued licences do you mean the CPL?

[excrab]

Yes or frozen ATPL or whatever you want to call it - don't know about PPL if that is what you are interested in but suspect not on this forum - also don't know how it applies to class ratings for single crew aircraft if at all.

[cabeza]

Hello everyone, I did ME-IR in Mallorca, the web site is www.airpalaviacion.com however it seems to be down at the moment. All the training was done in english. Nice atmostphere and no hassle, worth looking in to.
NB the skills test for ME-IR in spain is around 150-180 euros!

[pipertommy]

Hi Excrab,by CPL i meant the 25hr course for issue of CPL.Not CPL/ME/IR.Should have wriiten it clearer.I understand you can`t do the CPL at certain Spanish when you have completed the ATPL`S in the UK unless they have been passed by CAA?

[BIG MISTER]

Almost correct but not quite....

You can do your CPL in a school outside the UK but that school must be a UK CAA approved school.

So Jerez is ok and any of those in the US that offer the course that are basically 'UK schools operating oversea' or 'UK CAA approved'

[femaleWannabe]

Originally Posted by claycomm

Get this point absolutely clear... If you did your theory exams in the UK you MUST undergo your CPL training in the UK - you can do your MEP and MEIR in another JAA state but yout CPL will have to be done in the country of issue of your license.

my suggestion (as is what I did) is to first do your MEP & MEIR in Spain and then finish off in the UK with your CPL.

having already done your MEIR, the CPL course will be just 15 hrs instead of 25 hrs. This can be completed in a week or two even with UK wx.

Thank you, that's exactly what I wanted to know

[pipertommy]

Yip thanks too!but that adds on five hours to the IR course? 55hrs with atpl written passed against 50hrs with a CPL passed?

[smith]

Claycomm

Would you say that your course was of high standard? Were teher any issues you had with the tuition. Your description of the course seems ideal for me.

What accomodation did you use?

[pipertommy]

Yes sounds a good idea!!!think i`ll try for the ME/IR around the start of next year And like you say do the CPL in the better weather in the UK.

[smith]

Claycomm

Thanks for all the good information, I am liking the idea of AD more and more.

A few more question's if you don't mind

Did the CPL work out at £5995 as advertised? And how much was the hour building? Have you finished the course now and how long did it take you? Was the flight school busy with students?

Thanks in advance

Smith

[nosher]

Flight Training Europe

Hi ALL,
Can anyone confirm that Flight Training Europe (Spain) are stopping their Modular Training program?
Havent recieved a reply from the College!