Fly Bpl - Is It The Beginning Of The End???

[morecambebaz]

G-GALA

T/O 302mtrs grass well loaded are you nuts?

http://www.microlight.me.uk/Images/R...eld%5B1%5D.jpg

[SpannerInTheWerks]

are you nuts?

if this report is correct and you add flying with bent propellors and shock loaded engines (reportedly), flying unserviceable aircraft (allegedly), advising people to fly unserviceable aircraft (fact), 'doctoring' aircraft documents (allegedly - but from a reliable source) then 'nuts' is hardly sufficient to describe the actions of this UK CAA approved flight instructor and examiner!!!

[asitwas]

I don't get this if any or all of this has foundation then what the hell are the CAA well glove puppets for EASA doing in the guise of flight safety ? I know if we break wind out of turn the CAA want to know !

[mad_jock]

Actually EASA have already dealt with a few legacy issue that the UK CAA failed to do anything about for absolutely years.

Ormond Beach which turned into flyeasa. There were literally hundreds if not thousands of complaints about the place and even evidence that skills test were done in an hour etc etc. The UK CAA did nothing.

EASA took over oversight and they were shut down pretty quick.

The only way the CAA will have you is if you play by the rules. If you are of the mind to step away from them they really don't seem to do anything about it.

[MikeDutton]

Brigante Aviation agreement

Brigante Aviation is currently reviewing its operations at Blackpool Airport

[The_Observer]

Mike when you've finished drinking, you might want to edit that post?

[Nearly There]

Nice looking aircraft Brigante are developing...but am I reading this wrong?

The T-Tail is also interestingly designed. The double wing produces a lot of lift and deflects the airflow downwards. As a result, when in a deep stall, the horizontal tail section is still in undisturbed air, so avoiding problems some T-Tail aircraft have when in the deep stall.

If you're in a deep stall you aint producing lift therefor you will not be deflecting airflow downwards.

[west lakes]

Tarn Farm at Rossall, Blackpool,

Can anyone help, I'm struggling to figure out how a strip situated near Pilling and Cockerham Sands could in any way have a location described as Blackpool.
Lancaster perhaps! Yep there it is: -

Cockerham Lancaster LA2 0ER United Kingdom

And though it is called Rossall Field I think you might find that Rossall is just outside Fleetwood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rossall

[PENNINE BOY]

Mike!
Wake up please! I have not heard so much S--T for a long time!
You will not get a return out of flight training let alone a living wage!

Just talk to the people that have been involved with the owner of Fly BPL and invested large sums of money over 50K to purchase aircraft or pieces of Sh-T.

If his business ideas are supposed to be sound then why the hell does he keep going tits up using other peoples monies to support his and his lovers live styles?

Will be interesting to hear what happens to the Heli Centre when the alleged owner gets out of prison!

Time to move on! And let the last few flying clubs to make a living at EGNH before the place closes!

I am still pissing in my pants at your post and comments on holding company's etc etc!

Fly BPL and or the owner has not got a pot to piss in!

[west lakes]

Oh and it looks as though Tarn Farm only has planning permission for a Microlight Centre , that might perhaps need sorting out prior to it being used for flight training.

[cockney steve]

Oh and it looks as though Tarn Farm only has planning permission for a Microlight Centre , that might perhaps need sorting out prior to it being used for flight training.

AHH!....but he didn't say just WHAT sort of flight-training!

Do pigs come under the weight-limit for Microlights?
Iam reminded of a London car-dealer.....Raymond Way was purported to have said, " they say a mug walks over London Bridge,every minute.,so I built my showroom next to it."
Mr Duffer...sorry, DUTTON has obviously visited this, and other Fora. He has done his due diligence and has decided that R. M. is a shining beacon of probity, integrity and business acumen. So be it.

The Emperor's new clothes are fabulous,just fools can't see them.

[SpannerInTheWerks]

I know it must be a wind-up but I'll humour Mike Dutton anyway:

We are pleased to announce that the aircraft, all the aircraft documentation and the report from the CAA were all completely satisfactory. We were especially pleased by the condition of the aircraft.

we were given unprecedented access to the cash flow situation and we were entirely happy to pay over monies to Fly BPL

- there's one born every minute

our investment and pilot training will continue in the near future at the sites of Halfpenny Green, Wolverhampton

BEWARE - RED ALERT!!! - LOCK THE FUEL PUMPS AND hangar DOORS

Definition of 'brigante':

In modern Welsh the word braint means 'privilege, prestige' and comes from the same root brigantjā. Other cognates from the modern Celtic languages are: Welsh brenin 'king' (< *brigantīnos); Welsh/Cornish/Breton bri 'prestige, reputation, honour, dignity'

Prestige, reputation, honour, dignity' - that's RM to a tee!!!

PS: Brigante Aviation Limited (Company No. 08512464) formed on 1 May 2013 with Mike Dutton and Claire Robinson as directors - based at the Helicentre Blackpool. RM has (it seems) sidestepped direct involvement and I presume Blackpool Airport have no issues with Mr Dutton and Miss Robinson? Whilst Miss Robinson resides in Macclesfield, Mr Dutton is registered in the Helicentre Hangar?

Here we go again ...

[SpannerInTheWerks]

Brigante Aviation | Aircraft Design and Manufacture

and RM?!?!?!?

Mike, please, wake up and smell the coffee!

[Mikeod]

Quote - '. We were especially pleased by the condition of the aircraft.'
Lol where do you start with that one.....

[MikeDutton]

Reply to Nearly There - deep stall

Correct, in that there is zero downdraught at zero airspeed. But "deep stall" happens before that point. The deflection is enough when the aircraft is stalling and the tail is in the wake of where the turbulence would be (if the aircraft were to only have the lower wing) to avoid the tail and retain some authority. If the airspeed is zero, then the T Tail will have no effect regardless of the configuration.


Technically our aircraft does not go into deep stall because the angle is so steep and the speed so slow when it happens we don't actually enter the shadow of the wing. However, the correct way to actually describe it in writing is somewhat difficult.


Thanks for the enquiry since it is always a pleasure to talk about tangibles.


Mike Dutton
Brigante Aviation (Trinidad and Tobago)

[Maoraigh1]

Does that business jet aircraft remind anyone of a crowd-sourced design - California based company?

[The_Observer]

Robert, does Mike Dutton know you've set up an account using his name? He'll be mad when he finds out.

[boy entrant]

[QUOTE][/we are satisfied that the financial status of the training school is not dependent upon that dispute and in fact, we were given unprecedented access to the cash flow situation and we were entirely happy to pay over monies to Fly BPL. QUOTE]
does this mean you are taking over all the debts ?

[FlyingOfficerKite]

I must say I find it hard to believe that Brigante Aviation and its directors would see FlyBpl as an attractive proposition?

As has been Posted previously, Robert Murgatroyd seems to have also formed an alliance with a gentleman based in Providenciales in the Turks and Caicos Islands.

Speaking to an aircraft owner recently, whose aircraft was one of a number impounded in the FlyBpl hangar for 6 months, the matter seems far from over insofar as Mr Murgatroyd's involvement and ongoing dispute with Blackpool Airport is concerned?

It seems that Mike Dutton is involved, the only question is: WHY?

[India Four Two]

a gentleman based in Providenciales in the Turks and Caicos Islands

I doubt the gentleman is actually based there. Law offices on "Provo" are almost collapsing under the weight of the brass plates of companies registered there.