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Old 26th May 2014, 11:13
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Maybe the reference is to my previous post?

Does anyone know the significance of the connection between RM and DMH, 74, director of British North West Airline Limited based at Richmond House, Leeward Highway, Providenciales, Turks and Caicos Islands, British West Indies?

Has Mr H exchanged the Flyde coast for the sub-tropical Atlantic coast?

Obviously a connection to RM - as he has recently become a director of Helicentre Blackpool Limited.

Although British North West Airline Limited is dissolved as far as Companies House is concerned (and had an address at British North West Suite, Blackpool Airport FY4 2QY until March 2009), Mr H describes himself as a senior pilot with said airline under his LinkedIn profile, based in the TCI.

He is also listed as being an Airline Transport Pilot living in Ottershaw, Surrey?

In view of recent carryings on, the timing of this change in directors at the Helicentre in obviously significant and maybe a prelude to future events?
I wonder if Mr Dutton is acquainted with Mr Harbuttle?
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Old 28th May 2014, 15:41
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Dealmonster!

Dealmonster: Learn to fly as you take in Spectacular Aerial Views with Fly Blackpool, starting from just £55

£55 for half an hour! Comes with a special introductory lesson on 'hedge trimming'.

That's from tonight's Gazette, page 7.
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Offer no longer available apparently.
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Old 29th May 2014, 14:25
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Fly Bpl - Is It The Beginning Of The End???

No way! I wonder why that might be....
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Old 12th Jun 2014, 15:42
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The AAIB June bulletin includes a report on the accident to G-ATRR at Caernafon:

Air Accidents Investigation: Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee, G-ATRR

Amongst other things, the investigators found the rear wing spar attachment bolt ( or rather they didn't find it ) and some other interesting remarks include:

"A review of the aircraft’s maintenance revealed that the engine had exceeded its overhaul period by 1.7 years and there was no evidence to indicate that the actions required to extend this period by 20% had been carried out. There was also no evidence that a cylinder compression check had been carried out in the 229 hours since the last annual. The worksheets indicated that only a 50-hour check had been carried out when a 150-hour check was due, and investigations by the CAA revealed that this had occurred on two other aircraft owned by the operator. Further concerns about the maintenance of the operator’s aircraft resulted in the CAA suspending the Certificates of Airworthiness of eight of the operator’s aircraft."
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'kin' hell, not good!
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Old 15th Jun 2014, 16:27
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Ive just read the report. How is it possible that an aircraft is flying WITH REAR SPAR BOLTS MISSING? How can that happen?

If I was doing a pre-flight, would I notice any movement while checking the flaps? Would there be any distortion of the wing to fuselage fairings?
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Old 15th Jun 2014, 16:56
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If I was doing a pre-flight, would I notice any movement while checking the flaps? Would there be any distortion of the wing to fuselage fairings?
No. I think that few, if any, unsuspecting PPLs, carrying out a normal pre-flight inspection, would spot the missing rear spar bolts, or notice anything amiss.


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Old 19th Jun 2014, 21:32
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Going back to a previous accident....

Plane shouldn't have been in the air | Local | News - Radio Wave
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Old 20th Jun 2014, 13:22
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The plane which crashed was the first plane I went solo in so it has a special place in my heart
, RM allegedly stated.

'I am really sorry for all the distress I have caused to the families of the pilots involved and for the loss of life' was a statement either not made by RM or not reported.

If there was ever a cause fo action for a charge of corporate manslaughter surely the RM 'events' fit the bill?

It is hard to imagine how it would be possible to flaunt the regulations and the law and get away with it all so lightly?!

It's a disgrace and a poor example of mal-administration by the UK CAA that they should have enabled RM to retain his flight instructor ratings and examiner authorisations following these accidents.

I know of one pilot whose wife banned him from flying at FlyBpl following a series of mishaps and near misses that occurred whilst flying those aircraft.

Unfortunately, as with most aspects of life, great trust is placed in those providing a service to the public - a public who expect the justice system and the regulators to discharge a duty of care to ensure that trust is well-placed.
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Old 20th Jun 2014, 14:35
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It really pi$$es me off when people in a position of trust get away with it.
£645 fine for endangering peoples lives?!?
So people have to actually die or be injured first for it to be deemed a serious offence, right got it
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 05:33
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Is this guy operating from Wolverhampton now ?
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 06:52
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He was operating from "a farmer's field near Pilling" day before yesterday, according to someone who had a TL with him in a Cherokee 140.
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Corporate Manslaughter????? As far as I can gather, in the two fatal accidents the aircraft were not at fault. Am I missing something?
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Having read the report, it's a blatant disregard of the regulations, and an unsatisfactory way of performing maintenance on aircraft by the owner/operator! If the fine as someone stated is £645 then the CAA are a complete joke!
However, the real cause of the accident was the carb icing, something that all who read the report I hope will take note off, and will read CAA Safety Sense Leaflet 14 - I know I have. Safety Sense Leaflet 14: Piston Engine Icing | Publications | About the CAA
Also in the AAIB report it states 'There was evidence to suggest that the passenger had not been restrained by either a lap or shoulder harness at the time of the accident'. Aren't 'Hatches & harnesses' part of the downwind landing checks? Would the passenger have survived if he had been wearing his harness? Obviously the commander of the aircraft will have to live with his decisions and actions on the day of the flight for the rest of his life.
As for the owner/operator, I hope the CAA monitor his activities a lot closer to keep the rest of us safe from any further/future mal practice's.
For those that read this including the AAIB report, I hope we all take heed of the lessons learned before we next venture up in to the sky.








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Old 27th Jun 2014, 17:16
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Corporate Manslaughter?????
Wing bolt missing, maintenance records forged (on good authority) = aircraft not airworthy = aircraft shouldn't be flying = aircraft should not have crashed = persons should not have been killed and injured.

The holes in the Swiss Cheese were lining up long before the accident.

Corporate responsibility for the state of the aircraft and, maybe, corporate responsibility for the accident?

The fact that carb icing may have been the immediate cause of the accident doesn't detract from the fact that the aircraft shouldn't have been on the approach to Caernarfon that day in the first place.
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 07:49
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Can you say that had the pilot been flying a different aircraft the crash would not have happened? NO.

The same goes for Sipan flying into a Swiss mountain.

The crashes and the maintenance irregularities are separate entities. Unrelated to each other. I have no connection with RM but I do see red when confronted with flaming torch and pitchfork wielders.
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 11:03
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@ FLYINGMAC A good, objective post, sir.

However, there is still the issue of CAA Airworthiness compliance, with the horrendous costs entailed, V sub-standard airworthiness and maintenance that wouldn't even meet LAA (or BMAA) standards.

The fact remains that this unscrupulous operation was defrauding anyone who paid to use their aircraft.

Where is the real oversight from the CAA?
Hopefully , they'll re-prioritise and pay closer attention to monitoring major transgressors, rather than worrying about wether a licence is still valid because it's been cut into pages?

Wood and trees come to mind.
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 12:49
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Can you say that had the pilot been flying a different aircraft the crash would not have happened? NO.
Wrong. It is impossible to prove what would have happened in another aircraft.

Would the carb ice have formed in EXACTLY the same way? Impossible to say.

Simple fact is THAT aircraft should not have been there!
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Old 28th Jun 2014, 15:44
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Wrong. It is impossible to prove what would have happened in another aircraft.
Right. It is impossible to prove what would have happened in another aircraft.

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