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Old 5th Jul 2010, 21:46
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I doud't very much it will be until the lease expires or the airfield reverts back to unlicensed when it won't matter any more. Which personally I think will be in the next 12 months.

The CAA can't prosecute anyone in Scotland they can only inform the proc fiscal who will then decide if it is in the public interest to prosecute. I would suggest for the good of the tax payer it isn't, the only people to benefit will be the legal types.

Currently the airfield is no use to man nor beast for anything larger than the islander which doesn't actually require the airfield to be licensed anyway.

Have they actually got the correct runway markings in yet for the displaced bit?

They obviously don't have anyone that has a clue and the CAA isn't helping them. I can think of a way of getting the runway full length in one direction.
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Old 5th Jul 2010, 22:14
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Keegan never got the top job at Oban as he had a transgression with the law involving aviation. His mentality is if he can't run it well no one is going too. He was also booted out of Prestwick for being a **** and megalomaniac. It's hilarious watching his loyal hoodwinked followers bath him in glory. One poster who I assume works on the air ambulance hails him as the second coming of Christ............. puleeeeeeeeeees he is getting paid for it and it's his job and if he wasn't doing it well someone else would. As for the club setup it isn’t one it's a bunch of followers scared of his wrath and follow him and support his ideals which is off course to make money, not for the good and better of Oban Airport. Note to KEEGAN you never got the job you never will get over it move on, resign yourself to the fact that you’re the only one making money be happy with that, it's not your airport, it's the cooncils, you’re a guest, an awkward one at that.
I think that merits 1/10 for a rant. Oh, and despite an edit, your spelling is still crap!
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Old 5th Jul 2010, 22:44
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What an embarrassment to aviation some of you guys really, Oban seems a great place to visit going by what my mates say. The lads at the airport are very friendly and helpful. Its maybe just aswell the bully is in a small town airport because he certainly wouldnt last a minute in bigger airports. He didnt last long down here. Maybe the locals & his followers should really look into his past at Prestwick & even as far back as his Haulage time, I could go on but am not the petty type. If i have a problem with the bully i will go to his face & be a man unlike the childish school kids carry-on on here, Get a life some of you and stop hiding your names like wee boys.

Oban airport is starting to gain alot of support, Lets all move forward.

Captain whisky whisky & how many other usernames you use, PK am sure you know what to do if you are an aviaton supporter.
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Old 6th Jul 2010, 07:53
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Don't kid yourself.

The bean counters will decide in the end.

I am sure though that the airport won't be allowed to go back to its free and easy way. There will be some bollocks rules implimented to put a spoiler on things. Because they just couldn't live with the airport increasing movements after they had cocked it up so much. And the thought of PK pumping fuel making even more money would be intolerable to alot of council officals.
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Old 6th Jul 2010, 08:41
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I may just be a simple lad, but to me this all seems a little on the petty side

If there was a falsification on the license application then that is for the CAA to deal with.

If there is a club that leases a part of the airfield then the management should butt out and leave them alone - as long as by doing so does not breech the integrity of standard airport security - for that is what Oban is, like it or not, it is an airport. If security means that the club have to play ball a little, then so be it.

The management should respect the club and the club should respect the management. Both should respect the GA community and air transport users of the airport and stop this stupidity.

I have visited Oban in the past few months and found it a very welcoming place. The AFISO was not as some suggest on here. I was told where to park, but I expect that everywhere I go. I parked approximately where I was told and nobody came out with a tape measure shouting at me. I had a lovely cuppa and biscuit with the firemen - the same people that are the AFISO's. They helped us get information about the weather to the north from an outbound scheduled flight over the radio. They didn't bat an eyelid when we started the engine without asking first. I honestly think, when reading some of the comments here, that I am reading about a different airfield

Come on guys, for the good of the GA community, the airport, the flying club, the council, the community, etc, stop all this "it's my ball and you're not playing with it" nonsense and get back to aviating... for aviations sake!
I had a similar experience and was well looked after as we had a 1.5 hour wait for fuel even though we had booked it the previous evening.

We were shown around including the tower (which they pointed out was built 90 degrees out, short obstructed side to the runway).

I think like every visitor, we felt it was a great place not quite firing on all 6 and hopefully for everyone things will improve.
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Old 6th Jul 2010, 09:41
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If i have a problem with the bully i will go to his face & be a man unlike the childish school kids carry-on on here, Get a life some of you and stop hiding your names like wee boys.
Ramieayr, is that a scottish name?

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Old 6th Jul 2010, 12:34
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Hmmm

Funny how the Scottish Courts have found in favour of the resident fuel company and the aero club (two different legal entities BTW) at every turn.
Are they "bullies" too?
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Old 6th Jul 2010, 21:09
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Reply to Argyll Cooncil and Ramieayr.
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Old 6th Jul 2010, 21:42
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Runt that will be so lost on most folk on here
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Old 6th Jul 2010, 22:30
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I think I shall retire to Lismore lighthouse ....
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Old 6th Jul 2010, 23:30
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Resident fuel company and the aero club........
Who runs the both???? The same one who errected the fence overnight.
You get a silly man & a clever man,
Silly man gets caught & goes to prison.....
Clever man gets away with it.....
Hes been a clever man for too long

Watch this space....

Research is a powerfull thing

Isnt that right
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Someone with a grudge wrote ...
Watch this space... .
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Top posts Skinny - I think Jock,s right though, it will be over most heads, south of the border anyway.

Anyway - Oban airport in a few words - typical Scottish Local Government infrastructure monumental f*ck up - officials and politicians covering their asses, at our expense, and blaming anybody, and everybody, except themselves for afore mentioned f*ck up - it will never change (until the revolution), so get over it, quit the moaning - which will be putting people off going to Oban, and start using the airfield, before it is turned into an industrial estate, or 'eco town' - the cooncil seems to like to pour our cash down drains in the North Connel area!

Those who can - do something with a cross on a bit of paper at the next local authority elections - those who cannot - hassle Audit Scotland - it will do no good, but may make us feel better, if somebody gets fired!

As for PK, I am really not that bothered, within reason, what he is alleged to have done in the past. His business supplies a product which I need as a pilot - ie fuel - in a place I want to go to - ie Oban airfield - in a courteous manner. You don't need to like the guy as well!
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 15:51
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Oban Follies

Ramieayr, I thought your rant had a familiar ring, so I did some research, you need to be careful you don't get accused of plagiarism!




WW
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Devil

I cant understand why there is so much antagonism towards Paul. He ran the airfield, it was successful, won small airfield of the year twice and people came to Oban on a regular basis. Now that the Cooncil is running it it cant even attract enough planes to cover cost.
When the inter island service wanted to run an extra flight to pick up the excess passengers, which would have meant the airport remaining open for an extra 30 mins or so, it was met with an very definite NO!!!! Ermm correct me if I am wrong but surely thats the whole idea of the airport upgrade!!!!
If Oban closes we are in for a very bad time in aviation on the West Coast as there is no other supply of Avgas short of a massive detour to Prestwick or Cumbernauld so like him or loathe him he is very much neaded!!!
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 18:16
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One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how the internet (and PPRuNE especially) seems to completely warp the mentality of many people, seemingly turning supposedly grown-up, mature adults into gibbering, slavering, petulant creatures throwing playground insults in a feeble attempt to get some mud to stick and to gain some sort of moral high-ground.

Grow up for Christ sake.

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Old 7th Jul 2010, 19:52
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Guys and gals. Just a quick reminder that I am still about here.

As this thread is heading towards days of old I am going to close it for a few days to let everyone settle down.

Now this is a shame after all we have been through in the past so I ask you now to please stop the personal nonsense when it re-opens.
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Old 14th Jul 2010, 14:35
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Its a bit like Oban airport here
Quiet
OK I will get my coat
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Old 14th Jul 2010, 19:26
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Before you get your coat, ensure that your message is "parked" nearer the middle of the page.

Now it's even more like Oban!

This is a fun thread please keep it going people.
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Old 14th Jul 2010, 21:56
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S205 - that will be £35 for posting outside published hours
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