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Old 5th Jun 2010, 16:25
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I can't understand why there aren't maladministration actions at Argyll and Bute Council, on the face of it the Council appears to have failed in its duty to take good advice and spend public money wisely.

The management appear to be accountable to no-one which also can't be right.

Finally the markings are wrong if it's a displaced threshold, the markings indicate a closed runway, you really couldn't make this saga up!
I thought that was the whole point of Councils... cock things up completely, waste lots of money in the process and answer to no-one for it...

A shame really as Oban's great. Why do things have to be made such a mess of?

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Why do things have to be made such a mess of?

They don't. Gloucestershire Airport provides a good model for a very busy but relatively informal council run airport with a scheduled service or two.

Oban could be run on similar lines, Gloucesteshire is licenced and has ATC but its very busy, Oban could be run with FISO and licenced only when scheduled services operated.

I'm sure the council could find other work for the many staff when the airport didn't need them

To whom do we write????
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Old 5th Jun 2010, 19:36
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Write to local/national newspapers,radio and tv.
The silly season is coming up,the time when everyone goes on holiday and news slows down,so bombard the media with this info.

With the new open access to council spending it is all available.

Oban is a fiasco.
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Audit Scotland carries out audits for the Auditor General and the Accounts Commission

These are the folk to contact and put your views to.
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Oban/Glenforsa

To whom do we write????
Council CEO Sally Loudon

Council Leader [email protected]

MSP Jim.Mather.argyll-snp.com

Stewart Stevenson Transport Minister

The Oban Times

The Glasgow Herald

The Scottish Times

The Scottish Sun

This is Audit Scotland's remit for public bodies, they must:

operate within the regulations that govern their work
deliver value for money
act honestly, with propriety and integrity
carry out their duties to the highest standard

Has Argyll & Bute Council complied re Oban Airport?

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Old 5th Jun 2010, 21:30
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The following are a must;

The Oban Times,The Glasgow Herald,The Scottish Times, and the Scottish Sun.

The loss of public money coupled with an airport that is overstaffed and under used because of total mismanagement is a fur lined ocean going first class scandal.
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Old 5th Jun 2010, 21:38
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Oban follies

I'm sure the council could find other work for the many staff when the airport didn't need them
How could you find work for the most bone idle employes in the council? they wont even help the Islander pilots with passenger lugage!!
Fire the lot .
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Old 6th Jun 2010, 08:00
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Apparently there is a room in the terminal which is full of brand new gym equipment which has been purchased to allow the employees there to keep fit, presumably so they will then be able to help carry the bags?
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Oban Follies

In this weeks Oban Times:

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Parents threaten to demonstrate as ABC cut £46k from school transport budget, forcing children to walk to school on unsuitable roads and (in winter) in the dark.

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Failed Airline owes council £50k. Council spokeswoman says '£50k is only some 0.02 percent of the councils overall budget and we are confident we will be able to manage this situation'


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Old 6th Jun 2010, 13:15
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How much budget a year is it for the Airfield?
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Old 6th Jun 2010, 13:53
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Oban Fiscal Follies

How much budget a year is it for the Airfield?
Airports Budget Circa £2m
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Ran out of ink

Last year I wrote to Alex Salmond, I wrote to the then Transport Minister, the leader of Argyll & Bute Council, the local MP, my own MP, and got the usual bollocks in reply. The situation is a total farce, in fact criminal, however, the money has been spent, and from what I can gather the new leader of the cooncil, will be looking for a very large hole in which to bury this very large problem into.
Yes lets be inspired, and write to every media based entity, whilst the budget cuts loom. The authorities will not help one little bit, it has to be an investigative journalist, or a proper scandel finding prog like the BBC used to put out.
Hard hats on though
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Try that link I gave max they are meant to be out of the political system.

I am not suprised last year nobody would touch it with a barge pole.

That amount of money getting pissed up a wall would have caused the politicians all sorts of issues. You might say why didn't of any the other partys bother, well I suspect that they proberly all had something to do with approving it. And if it does come to light what really went on the Proc fiscal might have to get involved.

I still reckon that the whole thing was someones cunning plan gone horribly wrong by accident. Personally I reckon that plan was to get the airport removed and the land released for something else. Put this plan forward get the runway condemed when the project was refused due to it being uneconomic and that would have got rid of it. Unfortunatly the none aviation savy local politicans ran with it and we are left with the mess which is Oban today.
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Oban Follies

With a change of management and some applied commonsense, Oban & Glenforsa Airports could be restored to the happy condition of just a few years ago imho.

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The guys and gals who operate Oban Airport are as friendly and helpful a bunch of people as you could wish to meet. They are employed to provide the services required at a licensed aerodrome.

You may have a gripe with A & B Council about the need for the licensed aerodrome, however the personal attacks [verbal and otherwise] on the staff are uncalled for, and when done via the internet, particualrly cowardly.

As a mere visitor to Oban airport I can only express disappointment at the childish and offensive statements made by some of the contributors to this thread. Moreover contributors would do well to establish facts before making comment about any of the issues. Amongst the true statements are many that are incorrect.

I mean no offence in the above but wish to see some balance and fairness to all concerned!

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Old 6th Jun 2010, 17:44
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Helen49,
I totally agree.
Whats more lets not shoot ourselves in the foot. Remember who owns the airfield. They could just close it.
DO.
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Oban Follies

Here we go again!






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As a matter of interest Helen which statements are untrue?
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Old 6th Jun 2010, 22:03
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Helen 49

Oban used to have two quite satisfactory runways and was capable of supporting the landing and take off of private aircraft up to and including small jets. It could also service small public transport aircraft to cope with the needs of the islands.

It had a well managed fuel service and radio which was enough to serve all the practical needs at modest cost.

As a result of local politics a fortune was spent which now means that Oban has one runway, almost half of which is unusable, AFAIK it still has a well managed fuel supply capability, it has FISO who appears to believe that his primary role is to fill in MOR forms to no good purpose.

Thus the airport appears to be more expensive and less useful than before.

I'm pretty sure that all of the above is fact.
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Must.resist.the.trolling......
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