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Latest news from Oban is that, as from 27 August, start-up clearance is required from Oban Info.
I suppose a pilot has to know which way the tug has to do the push-back.
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I suppose a pilot has to know which way the tug has to do the push-back.
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At small airfields start up clearance is usually reserved for paradrop operations . Is there going to be para dropping now taking place at Oban, or do they have delusions of push back grandeur?
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...start-up clearance is required from Oban Info...
The Islander flights are commercial and passengers may be being marched out to their flight while somebody else starts up their people mincer next to them.
Or a heli parked into wind and facing away/ unsighted from from another helicopter in the final stages of rotor shutdown, might hit the start button and cause damage to the heli behind.
Sounds like sound risk management.
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How can a FISO give a clearance? Is there exceptions?
Go read Rule 40 and Rule 41.
"Clearance" is not a defined term in the ANO or ROAR.
I imagine you are confusing "clearance" with "Air Traffic Control Clearance", which is a defined term
(b) ‘air traffic control clearance’ means an authorisation by an air traffic control unit for an aircraft to proceed under conditions specified by that unit;
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Oban: Delusions of Grandeur?
Coll Fire Engine
Perhaps whoever is in charge of these airports should try and get the basics right, such as making sure the fire engines can fit into the fire stations
How will they blame this one on Mr Keegan?
WW
Perhaps whoever is in charge of these airports should try and get the basics right, such as making sure the fire engines can fit into the fire stations
How will they blame this one on Mr Keegan?
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Three points.
1. I don't think that building was designed to house a fire engine.
2. It is an old X reg machine so I guess they got it cheap.
3. Nice to see they capture the rainwater for recycling.
and I guess the whole building and fire engine cost under 50k.
1. I don't think that building was designed to house a fire engine.
2. It is an old X reg machine so I guess they got it cheap.
3. Nice to see they capture the rainwater for recycling.
and I guess the whole building and fire engine cost under 50k.
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I guess the whole building and fire engine cost under 50k.
I take it you are not an Argyll & Bute ratepayer?
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Phil Space: Your willingness to give benefit of the doubt is admirable but:
Precisely! But it's a little unfortunate that the vehicle which it was designed for can't get in or out because there's a fire engine permanently parked in the drive.
Hmmm, on a council capital works budget? I doubt it! No doubt SAS or one of the other regulars on here can tell us the precise figure.
BTW there is no oversize fire truck parked outside the door of the Colonsay terminal so I guess they have one that does fit.
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1. I don't think that building was designed to house a fire engine
I guess the whole building and fire engine cost under 50k
BTW there is no oversize fire truck parked outside the door of the Colonsay terminal so I guess they have one that does fit.
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OK fair comment but...
It makes a lot more sense to have the fire engine outside rather than inside and locked up when an accident happens. I hope it is on the active side of the security fence.
Plus the plans for the terminal will be on the local planning portal so they will state if the building was designed to house a fire engine. The freedom of information act allows access to the cost of the building and fire engine.(secondhand unit..anyone know where it was before?)
By my experience 50 - 75K for what is at best an insulated shed should cover things. The runway is a separate issue.
But perhaps the most important point is that this is an airstrip that serves a population of around 160 people. In winter there are just four ferries a week.
I suspect few of them care about a few private pilots having a go a what the place cost.
It makes a lot more sense to have the fire engine outside rather than inside and locked up when an accident happens. I hope it is on the active side of the security fence.
Plus the plans for the terminal will be on the local planning portal so they will state if the building was designed to house a fire engine. The freedom of information act allows access to the cost of the building and fire engine.(secondhand unit..anyone know where it was before?)
By my experience 50 - 75K for what is at best an insulated shed should cover things. The runway is a separate issue.
But perhaps the most important point is that this is an airstrip that serves a population of around 160 people. In winter there are just four ferries a week.
I suspect few of them care about a few private pilots having a go a what the place cost.
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DO:
Errrm, here's how:
(CAP 410 Part B, Chapter 1, para 2.1)
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How can a FISO give a clearance?
The FISO has the following specific responsibilities:
a) issuing information to aircraft flying in the aerodrome traffic zone to assist the pilots in preventing collisions;
b) issuing instructions and information to aircraft on the manoeuvring area to assist pilots in preventing collisions between aircraft and vehicles and obstructions on the manoeuvring area or between aircraft moving on the apron.
a) issuing information to aircraft flying in the aerodrome traffic zone to assist the pilots in preventing collisions;
b) issuing instructions and information to aircraft on the manoeuvring area to assist pilots in preventing collisions between aircraft and vehicles and obstructions on the manoeuvring area or between aircraft moving on the apron.
and
5.1 When an aircraft requests start-up or taxi the following information shall be given:
a) altimeter setting;
b) runway in use and circuit direction;
c) outside air temperature (for turbine aircraft only);
d) warnings of marked temperature inversion;
e) surface wind direction and speed, including significant variations.
5.2 It is important to issue precise and clear instructions and information to pilots engaged in taxying aircraft on areas of the aerodrome where instructions from the FISO are permitted.
a) altimeter setting;
b) runway in use and circuit direction;
c) outside air temperature (for turbine aircraft only);
d) warnings of marked temperature inversion;
e) surface wind direction and speed, including significant variations.
5.2 It is important to issue precise and clear instructions and information to pilots engaged in taxying aircraft on areas of the aerodrome where instructions from the FISO are permitted.
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...and how many Islander Fights are there a day ? Next will be Follow Me car !...
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The Registered office of Obanair is a 4 flats to a Block Council House in Rutherglen In Glasgow.
Is this a re-incarnation of Neil Robertson??
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Is this a re-incarnation of Neil Robertson??
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What's all the fuss about ? Last time I was in beautiful Glenforsa, they had very kindly grassed over the tarmac, beaten a local deer to death with a baseball bat (very tender venison), and had a very nice 2005 Chablis ( which they only allowed me to nose check the bouquet, since I flew in 
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I have stayed in the Glenforsa Hotel several times whilst under the ownership of 4 different people. I've decided to stay elsewhere during future visits.
The location is superb.
