URGENT: Need exampapers pro PPL
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URGENT: Need exampapers pro PPL
Hello out there
I´m currently in the US to obtain my JAA PPL. Does anybody have any actual airlaw and and met papers that they want to share with me or know where to find them.
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I´m currently in the US to obtain my JAA PPL. Does anybody have any actual airlaw and and met papers that they want to share with me or know where to find them.
regards
Tagdenmedro
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Re: URGENT: Need exampapers pro PPL
You need AirQuiz, the "online Confuser" which has loads of practice questions - go to http://www.airquiz.com/. They weren't around when I did my PPL but I used them for IMC and it was very useful.
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You shouldn't get the actual exam paper until you sit the exam. The CAA does not publish its question bank. Do the FAA still publish theirs.
If the actual exam papaer did leak out it would change again very quickly.
As AA says the PPL confuser is the one to get.
If the actual exam papaer did leak out it would change again very quickly.
As AA says the PPL confuser is the one to get.
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What on earth is the point of simply learning the answers to the exam questions? A good understanding of the subject is what is needed NOT the ability to remember answers. Use the available "Confuser" - type books to check if you are ready to take the exam in question. I would much prefer to take longer to study and have a good working knowledge than to simply have a piece of paper saying I have passed the exam because I remembered the answers. Ask yourself who you would prefer to fly with - a pilot who has studied the subject properly, or one who has simply learned the answers. I know which I would choose.
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Re: URGENT: Need exampapers pro PPL
HGFC1,
Absolutely agreed. Though I feel we may be jumping to conclusions about the original poster. Never the less I shall put forward my opinion on the matter too.
It's my opinion that this type of action is a consequence of taking intense flying courses abroad without first writing most of the exams or at least preparing properly for them. When you learn abroad you probably find that you have a deadline because you need to be back for work and other commitments at home and your return flight is booked for a few weeks time. So what is the quickest way to get up to scratch to pass the exams? Study the answers or what amounts to pretty much the same in the form of the confuser (the confuser leaves out large sections of each subject).
I agree with the existance of these question / answer aids completely because they are very useful as spot tests when you feel you are ready to tackle the actual exam but I worry about anyone who ONLY learns the questions and answers. Personally I like to read as widely as possible.
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PS. Apologies to the original poster. I am aware this is a bit off topic.
Absolutely agreed. Though I feel we may be jumping to conclusions about the original poster. Never the less I shall put forward my opinion on the matter too.
It's my opinion that this type of action is a consequence of taking intense flying courses abroad without first writing most of the exams or at least preparing properly for them. When you learn abroad you probably find that you have a deadline because you need to be back for work and other commitments at home and your return flight is booked for a few weeks time. So what is the quickest way to get up to scratch to pass the exams? Study the answers or what amounts to pretty much the same in the form of the confuser (the confuser leaves out large sections of each subject).
I agree with the existance of these question / answer aids completely because they are very useful as spot tests when you feel you are ready to tackle the actual exam but I worry about anyone who ONLY learns the questions and answers. Personally I like to read as widely as possible.
splatt
PS. Apologies to the original poster. I am aware this is a bit off topic.
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Re: URGENT: Need exampapers pro PPL
even though this may not be the case here i just wonder why people show off about doing this very thing. as it is i still think 75% is a low mark to get and pass on things like airlaw. personally my self id feel much safer if i knew what i needed to so when that time come when im in the air and suddenly opps somthing goes wrong, i know the best way to resolve the problem. or if i see a fighter jet fly past and rock his wings i know what to do.
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What on earth is the point of simply learning the answers to the exam questions? A good understanding of the subject is what is needed NOT the ability to remember answers. Use the available "Confuser" - type books to check if you are ready to take the exam in question. I would much prefer to take longer to study and have a good working knowledge than to simply have a piece of paper saying I have passed the exam because I remembered the answers. Ask yourself who you would prefer to fly with - a pilot who has studied the subject properly, or one who has simply learned the answers. I know which I would choose.
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Because some people do not absorb the information well in the raw format that seems to figure in most of the information required for these exams. CAA exams have way to much that is little relevance to actual flying, the further you go into the levels the more noticeble this becomes.
So some people choose to study then question recognise, take the exams and then polish the knowledge in the real world. It is not very helpfull to have a head full of pretty useless facts if you cant fly the aircraft for toffee or make good judgement calls.
Given the choice of a competant pilot are a swot I know who I would fly with.
So some people choose to study then question recognise, take the exams and then polish the knowledge in the real world. It is not very helpfull to have a head full of pretty useless facts if you cant fly the aircraft for toffee or make good judgement calls.
Given the choice of a competant pilot are a swot I know who I would fly with.
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good point that there in a lot of pointless information in the PPL airlaw. but its the people who just learn the confuser pass the exam then never touch a book on airlaw or look into it again.
at the moment i have pages and pages of notes of airlaw, just notes, of rules, so its easer to look over key points then read 100s and 100s of pages
at the moment i have pages and pages of notes of airlaw, just notes, of rules, so its easer to look over key points then read 100s and 100s of pages
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Because some people do not absorb the information well in the raw format that seems to figure in most of the information required for these exams. CAA exams have way to much that is little relevance to actual flying, the further you go into the levels the more noticeble this becomes.
So some people choose to study then question recognise, take the exams and then polish the knowledge in the real world. It is not very helpfull to have a head full of pretty useless facts if you cant fly the aircraft for toffee or make good judgement calls.
Given the choice of a competant pilot are a swot I know who I would fly with.
So some people choose to study then question recognise, take the exams and then polish the knowledge in the real world. It is not very helpfull to have a head full of pretty useless facts if you cant fly the aircraft for toffee or make good judgement calls.
Given the choice of a competant pilot are a swot I know who I would fly with.
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Re: URGENT: Need exampapers pro PPL
Originally Posted by bose-x
Given the choice of a competant pilot are a swot I know who I would fly with.
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Re: URGENT: Need exampapers pro PPL
C'mon fellas, all the original poster wants to do is the same as anyone in the UK does which is pass the exam by using the Confuser (or online equivalent). These are not past papers, but a useful way of rehearsing the type of questions you will be asked in the exam and revising accordingly where you cannot answer correctly. It is a study aid, no more.
Of course, it is also good airmanship after gaining one's PPL to make a habit of reading things like the AIP, AICs, CAP413, etc etc and by participating in various forums such as PPRuNe and the Flyer forums in order to continue the process of learning which, you might agree, starts the day you get your "license to learn", i.e. the PPL.
For example, if one wants to recall the radio failure procedures as prompted above, then I think it is more practical to lookup ENR 1-1-3-2/4 rather than rely on some distant memory from when you boned-up to pass the test! So rather than take the high morale ground with "I read the whole AIP to pass my test", I'd say that with things like this available online these days (ref. http://www.ais.org.uk/aes/pubs/aip/pdf/enr/2010103.PDF) the more sensible thing to do is refresh yourself in case it has changed!
Lighten up ladies!!
Andy
Of course, it is also good airmanship after gaining one's PPL to make a habit of reading things like the AIP, AICs, CAP413, etc etc and by participating in various forums such as PPRuNe and the Flyer forums in order to continue the process of learning which, you might agree, starts the day you get your "license to learn", i.e. the PPL.
For example, if one wants to recall the radio failure procedures as prompted above, then I think it is more practical to lookup ENR 1-1-3-2/4 rather than rely on some distant memory from when you boned-up to pass the test! So rather than take the high morale ground with "I read the whole AIP to pass my test", I'd say that with things like this available online these days (ref. http://www.ais.org.uk/aes/pubs/aip/pdf/enr/2010103.PDF) the more sensible thing to do is refresh yourself in case it has changed!
Lighten up ladies!!
Andy
