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Quite frankly the fact that the page is now 2/3 of the screen owing to an Ad panel on the right, coupled with the change in colours, coupled with the change in font means that the forum now looks like a sack of *****.
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It's a real shame. Bulletin boards provide a structured and searchable forum for discussions. Facebook groups tend to be just a repetitive stream of inane comments. It's almost impossible to have a serious discussion about anything.
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You need to persuade them it needs a responsive design - one that fits itself to the size of the window it's displayed in. If you make the window narrower and narrower the data doesn't adjust.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Glitch - double thread
I created a thread in Jet Blast. Got a reply and then replied to that. The tread not occurs twice, the original and reply and the original, reply and my response. I tried refreshing the one with only one reply but that did nothing.
IBobi - I've tried the forums on both my tablet and phone using Android/Chrome, and there are no navigation buttons on long threads. It's impossible to view anything past the first page unless you manually add "-2" or so on in the address bar. Having no way to view anything after the first 20 posts on a thread seems like a pretty major screw up, can you address?
Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs 
When I'm reading a thread and get to the bottom, on the old Prune, I could just click the "Go" button and be taken back to the sub-forum, say Tech Log. This no longer happens. "Thread Jump" doesn't do anything. I assume the "Go" is now for going to a page number. The only way I can get back to the table of contents of sub-forum I'm in is to scroll all the way back to the top then click the page site link. Jumping to another sub-forum, say "Rumours and News", is no problem, open the dropdown then click the sub-forum.
When I'm reading a thread and get to the bottom, on the old Prune, I could just click the "Go" button and be taken back to the sub-forum, say Tech Log. This no longer happens. "Thread Jump" doesn't do anything. I assume the "Go" is now for going to a page number. The only way I can get back to the table of contents of sub-forum I'm in is to scroll all the way back to the top then click the page site link. Jumping to another sub-forum, say "Rumours and News", is no problem, open the dropdown then click the sub-forum.
Originally Posted by IBobi
You can do that, or you can click the FORUM JUMP button and select the forum you want to see.
With the new site, there is no dropdown lost box and no Go button. I have to click on Forum Jump (sorry, I called it Thread Jump in my original post), which presents a list of all the forums, but when I click on Rumours and News (ie the forum I am currently in), nothing happens. This only works if I want to go to a different forum. I could go to the top of the page and click on Rumours and News on the site navigation link, but that means scrolling. Maybe I could hit the back button? This wastes time and makes the experience much worse.
Reduced functionality.
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Here's your comment on Firefox 59 / Linux. Messy.
I appreciate that ads are considered necessary when there's no subscription offered, but on a site like this the users contribute the content. Drive-away the users and there's no... content.
I appreciate that ads are considered necessary when there's no subscription offered, but on a site like this the users contribute the content. Drive-away the users and there's no... content.
IBobi, the security alert I've been getting happens every time I load a PPRuNe page using this hotspot, so it might be a local issue.
DON'T BOTHER WITH ANY PUERILE 'LIKE' BUTTON!!! It was tried before, was very divisive and was removed due to user complaints.
Seriously though, this is not a good 'upgrade' - slow page loading, advertising is far too intrusive, moving image adverts in particular should be banned.
Reply font options are unacceptably limited.
Old site back PLEASE!!!
DON'T BOTHER WITH ANY PUERILE 'LIKE' BUTTON!!! It was tried before, was very divisive and was removed due to user complaints.
Seriously though, this is not a good 'upgrade' - slow page loading, advertising is far too intrusive, moving image adverts in particular should be banned.
Reply font options are unacceptably limited.
Old site back PLEASE!!!
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Sorry, I don't understand. "The tread not occurs twice"?
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IBobi - I've tried the forums on both my tablet and phone using Android/Chrome, and there are no navigation buttons on long threads. It's impossible to view anything past the first page unless you manually add "-2" or so on in the address bar. Having no way to view anything after the first 20 posts on a thread seems like a pretty major screw up, can you address?
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With the new site, there is no dropdown lost box and no Go button. I have to click on Forum Jump (sorry, I called it Thread Jump in my original post), which presents a list of all the forums, but when I click on Rumours and News (ie the forum I am currently in), nothing happens. This only works if I want to go to a different forum. I could go to the top of the page and click on Rumours and News on the site navigation link, but that means scrolling. Maybe I could hit the back button? This wastes time and makes the experience much worse.
Forum Jump.JPG
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After a few days using the new format PPRune, I feel I must be missing something. It works fine for me; it's as fast as it was before, pages load instantly, and I'm sorry, but I really can't find too much wrong with it. But then my requirements are simple, and by no means am I a 'power user'. I've only used it on my W7 desktop. My primary browser is Firefox, but I have sampled it using Chrome - my reaction there is essentially the same. Advertisements? Well there is a fix for that, and I've using it for years in Firefox. I do see the ads in Chrome but I can't really complain about their placement or frequency.
Normally I'm very reluctant to find much good about software revisions which come my way. Perhaps I'm missing something. Perhaps I'll find the problems others report when I get out the laptop or fire up the amateur radio computers. But for the present anyway, it ticks the boxes for me.
Thanks to the mods and the others behind the screens who are working on the reported issues
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PS. Please be careful in even thinking about incorporating a "like" button. That probably means there will have to be a "dislike" button too. This could in time turn the site into the sort of punchup which happens on many Facebook type sites where things go off the rails very quickly. This board style site has a lot going for it.
Normally I'm very reluctant to find much good about software revisions which come my way. Perhaps I'm missing something. Perhaps I'll find the problems others report when I get out the laptop or fire up the amateur radio computers. But for the present anyway, it ticks the boxes for me.
Thanks to the mods and the others behind the screens who are working on the reported issues
.FOR
PS. Please be careful in even thinking about incorporating a "like" button. That probably means there will have to be a "dislike" button too. This could in time turn the site into the sort of punchup which happens on many Facebook type sites where things go off the rails very quickly. This board style site has a lot going for it.
FullOppositeRudder wrote:
Indeed! That's what happened when the stupid 'like' / 'dislike' was tried before. It isn't needed, so don't do it.
PLEASE GET RID OF THE RHS ADVERT PANEL, MOVING IMAGE ADVERTS AND ADVERTS INTRUDING INTO THE BODY OF THREADS!
PS. Please be careful in even thinking about incorporating a "like" button. That probably means there will have to be a "dislike" button too. This could in time turn the site into the sort of punchup which happens on many Facebook type sites where things go off the rails very quickly. This board style site has a lot going for it.
PLEASE GET RID OF THE RHS ADVERT PANEL, MOVING IMAGE ADVERTS AND ADVERTS INTRUDING INTO THE BODY OF THREADS!
After a few days using the new format PPRune, I feel I must be missing something. It works fine for me; it's as fast as it was before, pages load instantly, and I'm sorry, but I really can't find too much wrong with it. But then my requirements are simple, and by no means am I a 'power user'. I've only used it on my W7 desktop. My primary browser is Firefox, but I have sampled it using Chrome - my reaction there is essentially the same. Advertisements? Well there is a fix for that, and I've using it for years in Firefox. I do see the ads in Chrome but I can't really complain about their placement or frequency.
Normally I'm very reluctant to find much good about software revisions which come my way. Perhaps I'm missing something. Perhaps I'll find the problems others report when I get out the laptop or fire up the amateur radio computers. But for the present anyway, it ticks the boxes for me.
Thanks to the mods and the others behind the screens who are working on the reported issues.
FOR
PS. Please be careful in even thinking about incorporating a "like" button. That probably means there will have to be a "dislike" button too. This could in time turn the site into the sort of punchup which happens on many Facebook type sites where things go off the rails very quickly. This board style site has a lot going for it.
Normally I'm very reluctant to find much good about software revisions which come my way. Perhaps I'm missing something. Perhaps I'll find the problems others report when I get out the laptop or fire up the amateur radio computers. But for the present anyway, it ticks the boxes for me.
Thanks to the mods and the others behind the screens who are working on the reported issues
.FOR
PS. Please be careful in even thinking about incorporating a "like" button. That probably means there will have to be a "dislike" button too. This could in time turn the site into the sort of punchup which happens on many Facebook type sites where things go off the rails very quickly. This board style site has a lot going for it.
However, at home on our pretty slow broadband the forum is barely usable, because the myriad of adverts between posts, those with moving graphics etc, all seem to have to load before any page content will full display. In some cases pages were just hanging, and not loading at all.
Switching an adblocker on fixes things, and the forum then works pretty well, but that seems a bit unfair, as it's the ads that pay for this forum now. The ads weren't a problem with the old version, but something related to this upgrade seems to have caused the ads to have priority over the content, slowing things right down when you only have a slow connection.
Interestingly, it doesn't seem directly related to connection download speed, but more related to latency. Typically every page on this forum has a script that seems to send around a dozen or more requests to servers other than the host server for PPRuNe. Most of those requests are calls for adverts from advertising servers. Some of those advertising servers seem to be slow to respond if you have a slow connection, which then seems to cause the page to stall, whilst the ad server gets it's act together and sends the full ad. Once the ad that's been holding things up loads, then the page loads OK, but this can ten tens of seconds, or even longer (I had one page that took over ten minutes and still hadn't loaded).
So the fix that a lot of those users on slower connections are going to adopt is to install an adblocker, which works very well, but seems a bit like cheating to me, and trying to get something for nothing.
It does seem that most of the changes that are annoying some are directly related to increasing the number and frequency of adverts. The bar down the right hand side it just advertising space, and it seems to be the adverts inserted between posts on a thread that are causing most of the slower page load times.
In my view I'd have thought that there has to be a balance between adverts that are seen, so generate revenue for the forum, against adverts that are so intrusive that they slow things down to the point where people start routinely using an adblocker just to get the forum to work, so the multitude of ads then never get seen, thus depriving the forum of revenue.
Originally Posted by IBJoel
There is indeed a dropdown box at the bottom of the page.
New Site bottom of page.jpg
No "Go" button which used to take me back to the sub-forum Table of Contents.
IBJoel, the screenshot of yours above is what the old site looked like, with the current sub-forum shown, with the Go button right beside it. That does not exist on the new site pages.
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No, there isn't! This is the bottom of a page from Rumours and News on my PC:
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No "Go" button which used to take me back to the sub-forum Table of Contents.
IBJoel, the screenshot of yours above is what the old site looked like, with the current sub-forum shown, with the Go button right beside it. That does not exist on the new site pages.
Attachment 4868
No "Go" button which used to take me back to the sub-forum Table of Contents.
IBJoel, the screenshot of yours above is what the old site looked like, with the current sub-forum shown, with the Go button right beside it. That does not exist on the new site pages.
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speke softly (#14),
Danny is a free spirit, and not in charge of anything - only marginally of himself !
Danny was quite happy with the old layout, and can see no need to change.
If PPRuNe needs more money, why not ask the people for more money ? - Wiki seems to manage very well on that basis.
Or has Danny missed something ?
Danny is a free spirit, and not in charge of anything - only marginally of himself !
Danny was quite happy with the old layout, and can see no need to change.
If PPRuNe needs more money, why not ask the people for more money ? - Wiki seems to manage very well on that basis.
Or has Danny missed something ?